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L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

I don't know why California and Texas get megathreads while Florida doesn't, and I'm not in a position to be able to sit down and do an effortpost. But I'm sure there are goons here. Let me start off with my local news:

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/...on/70409865007/

quote:

The Brevard Republican Executive Committee has joined a growing list of Florida GOP chapters calling on Gov. Ron DeSantis to ban the COVID-19 vaccine, which it called a "biological weapon" in a resolution this week.

The nonbinding resolution was passed by a supermajority vote of committee membership Thursday. It now goes to DeSantis, Brevard County's legislative delegation and state party leaders, joining similar motions of support from committees in more than half a dozen other counties.

Brevard executive committee Chairman Rick Lacey did not immediately return a request for comment Friday.

A draft version of the resolution reviewed by reporters closely mirrors one passed by the Lee County Republican Party in February, drawing national headlines.

More:Brevard Republican Executive Committee rejects 2020 election results, citing false 'fraud' claims

"Strong and credible evidence has recently been revealed that Covid-19 and Covid-19 injections are biological and technological weapons," the Brevard draft resolution says, citing claims that have been disproven and disputed by respected medical groups.

"An enormous number of humans have died or been permanently disabled" by the vaccine, it says. "Government agencies, media and tech companies, and other corporations, have committed enormous fraud by claiming Covid-19 injections are safe and effective."

It calls on DeSantis to ban sale and distribution of the vaccine "and all related vaccines," and for Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody to seize all remaining doses in the state for safety testing, "on behalf of the preservation of the human race," it says.

It also calls for mandatory disclosures on any product in the state "using mRNA or gene altering or therapeutic technology."

Hillsborough County Republicans approved a similar resolution last month. Its original author, Lee County psychotherapist Joseph Sansone, told the Tampa Bay Times in June that GOP chapters have passed the motion in at least five other counties, including Collier, Lake, St. Johns, Santa Rosa and Seminole, the newspaper reported.

The four-page resolution cites a mix of news and government sources, legitimate scientific papers — including a Swedish study, purported to show that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine alters human DNA, that its authors have said has been misinterpreted by vaccine critics — and fringe websites.

Many of its claims have been disputed by major medical associations and debunked by factcheckers from the Associated Press and other news agencies. One cited link appears to promote a version of the conspiracy theory that the Pfizer vaccine contains microchips or other electronic components.

The resolution includes references to data from a 2021 Pfizer study showing more than 1,200 deaths and 42,000 "adverse cases" associated with the vaccine worldwide between December 1, 2020 and February 28, 2021, but fails to include other important context.

By March 1, 2021, more than 72 million doses of the vaccine had been administered and more than 48 million people vaccinated in the United States alone, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The CDC has acknowledged some complications have occurred with different versions of the shot, but says "severe reactions" are rare and the benefits of vaccination "continue to outweigh any potential risks," according to its website.

More:Despite election wins, voter registration gains, there's rift in Brevard Republican Party

The resolution was met with opposition from some local Republicans. Susan Hammerling-Hodgers, a former BREC district chairperson and former president of the Brevard Trump Club, said she didn't attend the meeting in protest of what she called the "circus" surrounding the measure.

"As a lifelong Republican, I believe in less government overreach," Hodgers, who works in the medical field as a physician assistant, said in a statement. "When members of the Republican Party are making a vote to remove another American's choice to take a vaccine if they want to take a vaccine, then we have crossed the line."

Feel free to use this thread to talk about FL politics in general and if someone wants to help me make a proper OP I'm all ears.

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L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-ron-desantis-bud-light-dylan-mulvaney-anheuser-busch/

quote:


Ron DeSantis threatens Anheuser-Busch over Bud Light marketing campaign with Dylan Mulvaney
moneywatch
BY KHRISTOPHER J. BROOKS

JULY 21, 2023 / 4:40 PM / MONEYWATCH


Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is hinting at legal action against Bud Light's parent company, Anheuser-Busch InBev, for the beer brand's promotion earlier this year with TikTok star Dylan Mulvaney.

Bud Light's March Madness promotion with Mulvaney, a transgender actress and activist, sparked an uproar among some conservatives, including singers Kid Rock and Travis Tritt, who called for a boycott of the popular beer. An ongoing sales slump for Bud Light has been attributed to backlash from both conservatives and the LGBTPQ community over the marketing campaign.

In an interview Thursday with Fox News, DeSantis said that Florida's pension fund contained over $50 million worth of Anheuser-Busch shares. Bud Light's decision to team with Mulvaney was followed by a sales slump, and as a result the state's pension fund has suffered collateral damage, according to the 2024 presidential candidate.

"When you start pursuing a political agenda at the expense of your shareholders, that's not just impacting very wealthy people, it impacts hardworking people who were firefighters, police officers and teachers," DeSantis told Fox News.

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"And it could be something that leads to a derivative lawsuit filed on behalf of the shareholders of the Florida pension fund," he added. "Because, at the end of the day, there's got to be penalties for when you put business aside to focus on your social agenda at the expense of hardworking people."

DeSantis didn't say how much the pension fund has lost from its Anheuser-Busch investments. Derivative lawsuits are filed by shareholders on behalf of a company against a corporation's directors or officers alleging breach of their fiduciary duties.

"Radical social ideologies"
The governor on Thursday also sent a letter to Florida's State Board of Administration (SBA), which manages its pension fund, asking staff "to review how AB InBev's conduct has impacted and continues to impact the value of SBA's AB InBev holdings."


In the letter, DeSantis said AB InBev has struggled recently because the company decided "to associate its Bud Light brand with radical social ideologies."

"It appears to me that AB InBev may have breached legal duties owed to its shareholders and that a shareholder action may be both appropriate and necessary," DeSantis wrote.

When reached for comment by CBS MoneyWatch, a spokesperson for Anheuser-Busch said, "Anheuser-Busch InBev takes our responsibility to our shareholders, employees, distributors and customers seriously. We are focused on driving long-term, sustainable growth for them by optimizing our business and providing consumers products to enjoy for any occasion."

Brendan Whitworth, CEO of Anheuser-Busch, told CBS Mornings last month that the company is sending financial assistance to distributors and wholesalers affected by the slump in Bud Light sales since Mulvaney's social media video went viral. Whitworth added that ABI plans to triple its investment in Bud Light this year as the company launches its upcoming summer campaign and prepares for the NFL season.

Bud Light sales dropped 28% for the week ending June 24, compared with the same period last year, according to beverage industry research firm Bump Williams Consulting. That amounts to a decline in revenue of roughly $26 million for Anheuser-Busch, according to data from consumer behavior data analytics firm Circana.

AB InBev's stock price has fallen 14% since the Mulvaney promotion in late March, with the company losing $16 billion in market value over period. Florida's pension fund contained more than 682,000 shares of AB InBev at the end of March, valued at the time at nearly $46 million, CNN reported.


DeSantis is also at the center of an ongoing dispute with the Walt Disney Co. about how much authority the entertainment giant has over land near its theme parks in Orlando, Fla.

DeSantis has been on the campaign trail in recent weeks, hoping to position himself as the front runner for the Republican presidential nomination in 2024. He visited South Carolina earlier this week and landed in Utah on Friday in a push to re-energize his campaign, which has lost momentum.
So, I don't see how this goes anywhere. Investment involves risk and generally shareholders don't get to sue a company for making business decisions that negatively impact the stock price, unless fraud was involved. I think that's how it works anyway. But the governor will be happy to piss away taxpayer dollars on this.

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

Shrecknet posted:

I grew up in Miami/SoFla in the 80s and 90s then bounced around the state in the 2000s for college to work, and it really can't be overemphasized what a colossal difference the two areas are. Miami-Dade is a cool, hip and multicultural metro area with progressive values and all the trappings that come with modern society. But as the saying goes, "the further north you go, the further south you get." By the time you hit even Boynton Beach you're in horse-and-truck country, and the actual screeching, hooting lunatics with 50' Trump flags start showing up around Okeechobee.

In a sensible world, the Keys/Miami/maaaybe Ft Lauderdale would have balkanized into their own state, leaving the rest of Florida to rot as part of "the south."

As it stands, I have no idea how you reconcile a state so full of hateful, screeching olds (for god's sake, @catturd2 lives there) with anything resembling a society planning for the future. But I guess that's always been the way of Florida - the state is so old and so full of retirees from elsewhere that they consider any planning for the future to be a waste since it isn't their kids doing the dying.

Is Miami-Dade really that progressive anymore? DeSantis won it last year, and it seems like a lot of the Latino population there is pretty conservative, at least with regards to anything the right paints as socialism. (Though it is funny how many people love Obamacare now.) This is largely based on news reports as I've never lived in that area.

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

Just making sure everyone knows that your request for a mail ballot, which used to be valid for a few years has been canceled. Not a huge deal you just have to request it again before any upcoming elections. This is fine.

Also I encourage everyone to go here and take a minute to try to get abortion rights on the ballot.

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

Assuming the abortion and recreational cannabis amendments get enough signatures to get on the ballot, which they almost certainly will, what are the ways the FL Supreme Court or legislature could ratfuck them? Is there any way they could raise the threshold past the already high 60%?

L. Ron DeSantis fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jul 27, 2023

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

FlamingLiberal posted:

They can't raise that, it's in the state constitution. However, the FL SC could find ways to disqualify the amendments from the ballot.

Well they could try to raise it via a ballot amendment but I suspect that would work as well as it seems to be going in Ohio. I guess the more pressing concern is does the FL SC find a bullshit reason? They might; aren't most of them DeSantis appointees?

L. Ron DeSantis fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jul 27, 2023

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

I had a nightmare last night - Gov. Randy Fine.

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

It's pretty notable that Randy Fine, who is basically Ron's favorite bootlicking state rep and happens to be Jewish, has seemingly had nothing to say about the sonnenrad video. He can't not know, so I assume he thinks when the pogroms hit he'll be considered one of the "good ones".

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

Looks like AP Psych may be permissible after being effectively banned days ago:

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/04/florida-ap-psychology-reversal-desantis/70532365007/

Florida Today posted:

AP Psychology could be back on students' schedules in Florida as DOE clarifies guidance
Ana Goñi-Lessan
Tallahassee Democrat







AP Psychology could be allowed in Florida after all.

A day after news broke that the state Department of Education was effectively banning the course by prohibiting instruction on gender and sexual orientation, the department is now clarifying it will allow school districts to teach the class in full, according to a letter sent to superintendents.

"In fact, the Department believes that AP Psychology can be taught in its entirety in a manner that is age and developmentally appropriate and the course remains listed in our course catalog," Florida Education Commissioner Manny Diaz Jr. wrote in a letter dated Friday.

The letter comes a day after the state advised superintendents they could offer AP Psychology but were instructed to exclude topics related to gender and sexual orientation to comply with Florida law.

The College Board, which runs the AP program, said this exclusion would "effectively ban" the class because such an adjustment would mean it couldn't be called Advanced Placement or used to earn college credit.

"To be clear, any AP Psychology course taught in Florida will violate either Florida law or college requirements," the College Board said Thursday. "Therefore, we advise Florida districts not to offer AP Psychology until Florida reverses their decision and allows parents and students to choose to take the full course."

The nonprofit, which also administers the SAT, said Friday's letter provided needed clarity for Florida educators. Nearly 30,000 Florida students were expecting to take the college-level course, and many school districts kick off the school year in just a few days.

"Today’s statement from the Florida Department of Education represents new guidance on AP Psychology," the College Board said Friday. "While district superintendents continue to seek additional clarity from the department, we note the clear guidance that, 'AP Psychology may be taught in its entirety.'"

Across Florida on Friday, districts were rushing to change student schedules and come up with alternative ways to teach college-level psychology classes just days before the 2023-2024 school year begins. Some districts, like Brevard Public Schools, decided to nix the class altogether.

"The way to safeguard both our employees and students is to remove the course from our offerings," wrote Superintendent Mark Rendell in an email to school board members on Friday afternoon.

In Leon County, the principal of Chiles High School sent out a letter to parents informing them the school would not be offering AP Psychology this year and would be offering a college-level class through dual enrollment at Florida A&M University (FAMU).

In Friday's letter to superintendents, Diaz said he was writing "out of an abundance of caution" in response to the College Board's earlier position.

"College Board has suggested that it might withhold the 'AP' designation from this course in Florida, ultimately hurting Florida students," he wrote. "This is especially concerning given that the new school year begins in a week. I want to be clear, AP Psychology is and will remain in the course code directory making it available to Florida students."

Diaz earlier blamed the College Board and its refusal to edit its AP Psychology curriculum for preventing students from taking the class this year.

"The Department didn’t 'ban' the course. The course remains listed in Florida’s Course Code Directory for the 2023-24 school year," DOE spokesperson Cassie Palelis wrote in an email. "We encourage the College Board to stop playing games with Florida students and continue to offer the course and allow teachers to operate accordingly."

For months, DOE has been in discussions with The College Board and other college-level course providers about their curriculum content. In May, the agency sent a letter to The College Board asking the organization to review all AP courses to see if they "need modification to ensure compliance" with a Florida law and state Board of Education rule targeting instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity. The College Board declined.

"We hope now that Florida teachers will be able to teach the full course, including content on gender and sexual orientation, without fear of punishment in the upcoming school year," the College Board stated on Friday.

Dr. Arthur C Evans Jr, CEO of the American Psychological Association, said for the past three decades in Florida, educators have always taught the class at a level that is age and developmentally appropriate, and he didn't know why the state suddenly decided to take out information that is "fundamental to understanding people."

“I think the lesson here is that issues of curriculum should be left to experts in the discipline, the educators who have taught this course for 30 years, and parents and students," he said.

Last year, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is running to be the Republican nominee for president, signed HB 1557, a measure officially known as the Parental Rights in Education act but derided by critics as the “Don’t Say Gay” law. The law outlawed instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in kindergarten through third grade. This spring, the law was expanded to 12th grade.

Some district administrators and teachers in Florida remain uneasy about AP Psychology, even after Diaz's letter. The words "age appropriate," which Diaz writes in his letter, have been used frequently by the governor’s office and the Department of Education, but the state has never clearly defined the “age-appropriate” terms.

Teachers could face suspension or revocation of their educator certificates for violations of the rule if they “intentionally provide” instruction on gender and sexuality, according to the law.

Monika Frisby, a teacher at Godby High School in Tallahassee, fears mostly for her students, especially those who take advantage of AP credits to cut costs on college classes. Godby is a Title 1 school and the only high school located in Tallahassee’s 32304 ZIP code, which is dubbed the poorest in the state.

She’s been heartbroken, even angry, on behalf of her students, especially those who she said were excited about taking the class this year.

“My class was freedom,” she said. “Taking it away from them, that’s indoctrination. Now you’re taking knowledge away from my kids.”

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

Well since neither of the boys was wearing a skirt like in the similar incident in Virginia, there's nothing here for right wingers to get outraged about. Cis boys will be boys.

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

ComradePyro posted:

I don't think this is a trans issue and we should not respond to hearing about a child being raped by trying to make it about trans people, speaking as a trans person.

Is there a news story about this or something I can read? All I get is "Broward School Board meeting sees heated debate over LGBTQ+ Pride", which is sort of ironic.

Sorry, I was being glib. I was comparing it to an incident elsewhere where a similar cover up got hijacked by people with an anti-trans agenda. Probably came off as a dumber post than what I intended.

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L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

When you've lost Catturd... well it means nothing to anyone but Musk, but still doesn't bode well.

L. Ron DeSantis fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Aug 19, 2023

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