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Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


I grew up in Miami/SoFla in the 80s and 90s then bounced around the state in the 2000s for college to work, and it really can't be overemphasized what a colossal difference the two areas are. Miami-Dade is a cool, hip and multicultural metro area with progressive values and all the trappings that come with modern society. But as the saying goes, "the further north you go, the further south you get." By the time you hit even Boynton Beach you're in horse-and-truck country, and the actual screeching, hooting lunatics with 50' Trump flags start showing up around Okeechobee.

In a sensible world, the Keys/Miami/maaaybe Ft Lauderdale would have balkanized into their own state, leaving the rest of Florida to rot as part of "the south."

As it stands, I have no idea how you reconcile a state so full of hateful, screeching olds (for god's sake, @catturd2 lives there) with anything resembling a society planning for the future. But I guess that's always been the way of Florida - the state is so old and so full of retirees from elsewhere that they consider any planning for the future to be a waste since it isn't their kids doing the dying.

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Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

It cannot be understated the level of delusion that exists within the Cuban émigré community is something that will never die and is most definitely getting worse as the GOP tries to grasp something as their demographic hold on FL slides. Since terrorism never panned out for the far right elements of the community, they're just doing their best to copy the Israel lobby but instead of having politicians pledge eternal support to the state of Israel, they're making politicians end all speeches with Cuba delenda est.
What happens when (if?) Cuba's relations with America are normalized and you don't have automatic one-dry-toe citizenship on arrival in Florida and it becomes impossible to add more virulently anti-communist Cuban expats to the voter rolls? The Alpha 66'ers aren't getting any younger.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Mulaney Power Move posted:

There's also a conservative demographic that HATES Trump for the same reasons us liberals do (ostensibly), but still think Desantis is good because they really don't pay attention to the news much.
Yeah but that demo is like, "Mitt Romney and six other dudes," it's not a significant part of the electorate. Rockefeller Republicans exist, but they're like Pandas: too specialized to adapt to current environmental conditions and unable to reproduce.

I'd be fascinated to find any poll with crosstabs for party affiliation and trump disapproval and "reason: too dumb and crass" instead of "reason: isn't hurting marginalized people enough"

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