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Jets vs Browns Thursday after next, get hyped folks! HoF Class: Ronde Barber Don Coryell Chuck Howley Joe Klecko Darrelle Revis Ken Riley Joe Thomas Zach Thomas Demarcus Ware Already opened camp: Browns, Lions, Chiefs, Jets Everyone opens camp Tuesday except for the Steelers who do it Wednesday *shrug* .... August 8th: Last day for drafted rookies to sign August 29th: Cut day* There's no multiple cut days, this is the only day you have to get down to 53 players. August 30th: Waiver day, Practice squad day. All team joint practices: August 8-9 Dolphins to host Falcons Lions to host Giants Bengals to host Packers Panthers to host Jets (Aug. 9-10) Raiders to host 49ers (Aug. 10-11) Eagles to host Browns (Aug. 14-15) Commanders to host Ravens (Aug. 15-16) August 16-17 Colts to host Bears Jets to host Buccaneers Lions to host Jaguars Packers to host Patriots Texans to host Dolphins Titans to host Vikings Rams to host Raiders Chargers to host Saints (Aug. 17-18) Broncos to host Rams (Aug. 21) Titans to host Patriots (Aug. 22-23) Vikings to host Cardinals (Aug. 23-24) Saints to host Texans (Aug. 24-25)
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2023 18:32 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 18:27 |
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Lucky news: https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1683523272946733056
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2023 18:15 |
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Probation incoming
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2023 22:26 |
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Nodoze posted:Getting them on the WR tag won't do anything except get them released and have to accept lesser FA contracts If they'd have to accept lesser FA contracts they wouldn't be franchising them. It makes 0 sense for the best RB's in their prime years to be cheaper then WR's like Michael Gallup or Corey Davis
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 14:32 |
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stuker posted:i'm convinced the 20% kicker must have gotten included in the new deal because i don't believe anyone can be so blind as to negotiate a contract without realizing you're giving up a likely $2m for that Every tag has that requirement, by raising his salary to the FT number this year, tagging him next year would still require the 20% bump.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 14:58 |
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Aaron Hernandez's older brother arrested after planning school shootings. This is after he got arrested for throwing a brick at ESPN's campus awhile back.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 15:38 |
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stuker posted:i'm not a lawyer so i'm sure there's something i'm missing, but i thought that the 20% kicker only applies for two consecutive franchise tags? if next year's deal is his first agreement to the traditional franchise tag, NYG doesn't have any obligation to provide him with a 20% raise from this deal because he did not play the 23-24 season under a franchise tag (even if it's effectively the same) Nah, the way the franchise tag works is it's the calculated number based on existing contracts or 120% of the previous year's salary, whichever is greater. It's just that since virtually every NFL contract has signing bonus / roster bonus numbers all over the place, the salary is rarely high enough for that to come into play outside of if they were just franchised.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 15:44 |
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The gently caress? He didn't play last year. He's 37 He had 14 catches 2 years ago.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 15:46 |
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Nodoze posted:I'm saying if the franchise tag number on RB was higher than it is now, no one is ever going to franchise tag a RB and they will just let them go and draft a new guy. RB free agent contracts already are not high, if more of them flood the market it isn't going to go up RB free agent contracts aren't high because they die in their mid-upper 20's which you can hold onto them through a rookie contract + 2 franchise tags if needed. If you make it so they effectively can't be franchised, then you'll see RB's get your typical extensions after year 3 to lock them up until their late 20's and then they're toast, and in the process the best ones would start seeing contracts approaching mid-2nd tier WR contracts instead of 3rd-4th tier ones like they're reduced to now. Teams do value RB's, two just got drafted highly, a hella expensive one was traded for roughly the value of a 1st last year and 3 were franchised this offseason. Teams value young, productive running backs. It's just the rest of the FA market for RB's is trash because the good ones are dead by the time they hit FA.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 16:30 |
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Feels like a sick joke https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1683876914862391297
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 17:29 |
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The largest WR contract handed out this offseason was Hopkins for 1 year $13m Because the good ones weren't on the market, just like RB's. If Josh Jacobs was just available as a FA this offseason, you really don't think a team would offer him say, 2 years $30m? That's less then Hunter Renfrow money. Kalli fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jul 25, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 17:49 |
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The Puppy Bowl posted:How soon we forget OBJ getting plucked from the couch for $15 Million (up to $18 with incentives.) .... gently caress
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 18:50 |
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General Dog posted:I don't think anybody is saying it's a good or just outcome, but what's the answer for buoying RB salaries other than eliminating the salary cap or eliminating the rookie pay scale? (Not that either of those would be bad things, but I doubt either outcome is realistically on the table) Combining RB + TE + WR into 1 cap number like OL means they don't get tagged anymore effectively, and would let Josh Jacobs / Saquon set the market. Which, like with guards, causes their market to rise a bit at the top end, and gives a bunch of room for the 2nd - 3rd tier RB's to slot in under them. It doesn't do much of anything for a 28+ year old RB's but they're cooked regardless, ain't nothing fixing that. Best you can do is let them have a real free agency when they're 25 and get a shot at a real 2nd payday.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 19:03 |
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Nodoze posted:If you draft a back, play him for three or four years then decline the 5th year and cut him who is going to be lining up to give him a 3+ year contract for real money I mean what would Josh Jacobs be worth on the open market right now? That's basically what we're looking at. Dude put up 1653 / 12 at a 4.9 average in year 4. I'd say it makes sense to throw a ~3 year contract at him with the guarantees in the first two years at say, probably above Diontae Johnson or Hunter Renfrow money.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 19:19 |
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The rams roster is something absurd with like 40 rookies going into their camp. They're basically Stafford / Kupp / Donald, a pair of tackles and basically everyone else is a day 3 draft pick from the last few drafts. It's wild.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 19:33 |
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Oh that says $50m and not $20m like I speed read it as.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2023 17:24 |
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In a slight defense, Tight ends take years upon years to get going typically. Most of them don't break out into stars until year like 4-5 and put up years 1-3 like Cole Kmet there. That said, a whole bunch don't and you might've just made a Jonnu Smith level mistake. This is mostly just an argument for not drafting TE's that highly and an argument for overpaying them in free agency
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2023 17:31 |
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Speaking of WR's lighting things up https://twitter.com/DeAndreHopkins/status/1684383096261562368
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 03:12 |
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The Boys have a... reasonably comparable roster, but just imagine having faith in McCarthy. Also Giants or Football Team? Lol, nah.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 16:02 |
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PFF "math" of how good Ben projects each team's pass blocking to be. Which man, lmao if the Pats are projected to have the 8th best. https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1684228663343022081
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 20:26 |
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I just wanna know what Jordan Roos did to deserve a 1 pass block rating. He played 200 offensive snaps last year and is credited by PFF with no penalties or sacks allowed.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 20:31 |
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Joe Burrow down and grabbing his calf, being looked at by trainers. They're bringing out the horse execution screens, RIP.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 20:58 |
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Man I was shitposting because they're not even in pads or anything, but that probably looks like the season https://twitter.com/Trags/status/1684654836736839680
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 21:09 |
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He's down for awhile before they call a cart out. I mean it's possible it's a cramp, but c'mon, not even Paul Pierce would....
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 21:18 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Who's the Bengals backup QB? Team Trevor Siemian.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 21:20 |
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BY THE TIME YOU FINISH READING THIS I WILL BE DANCING IN THE ENDZONE
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2023 17:28 |
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1684984752770560019 They signed him 3 days ago.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2023 18:58 |
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I presume the trade comp would be a 2nd, as it is a situation where multiple teams have shown they extremely value RB's pick wise (Falcons, Lions, 49ers) and 3 think they have ones worth a Franchise tag, and there's a few others still making real money (Chubb, Henry) so there are teams that value good young RB's out there, which Taylor is. ... so I will be unsurprised by anything between a 1st and nobody wants to trade for him because he wants an actual contract.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2023 01:43 |
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He remembers when he had Marshall Faulk paired with Peyton Manning as a rookie and it went terribly, obviously it was the smart thing to get rid of Marshall Faulk. <Turns and stares directly at the camera>
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2023 02:00 |
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Mike Sando's QB Tiers article is up: https://archive.ph/tFwYF Tier 1: 1) Patrick Mahomes 2) Joe Burrow 3) Josh Allen 4) Aaron Rodgers 5) Justin Herbert Tier 2: 6) Jalen Hurts 7) Lamar Jackson 8) Trevor Lawrence 9) Dak Prescott 10) Matthew Stafford 11) Deshaun Watson 12) Kirk Cousins Tier 3 13) Kyler Murray 14) Derek Carr 15) Jared Goff 16) Russell Wilson 17) Tua Tagovailoa 18) Jimmy Garoppollo 19) Daniel Jones 20) Geno Smith 21) Justin Fields 22) Ryan Tannehill 23) Mac Jones Tier 4: 24) Brock Purdy 25) Kenny Pickett 26) Jordan Love 26) Baker Mayfield 28) Sam Howell 29) Desmond Ridder 30) Gardner Minshew
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2023 14:50 |
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mcmagic posted:The Colts can play as hardball with Taylor as they want it seems. He really has no recourse. Yep. Even if Taylor's great this year? They just franchise him and offer him an insulting deal that's just the FT + garbage. He's got no leverage, the Colts will control him until he's almost certainly busted and lucky to get $4m a year.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2023 18:58 |
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Let's see.... Probably fired with a bad year: Staley Stefanski Rivera Saleh Bowles Allen McDaniels Arthur Smith Less likely to be fired, but still could be: Vrabel Campbell Eberflus Could see a world where they retire: Carroll, Belichick
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2023 17:26 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I bet the Cardinals fire Peewee Herman if they only win 1 game and have the top pick the following year. Yeah, I didn't list out any of the first year guys, because they should be safe... but yeah, if anyone's 1 and done it's probably Gannon. Hizawk posted:Campbell and Holmes are completely safe no matter how bad the Lions are this year, short of committing actual crimes. I don't think it's likely at all, but if the Lions really faceplant this year, I could see him going. Same with Eberflus if Fields doesn't turn into anything and Vrabel if they just completely melted down. I don't think it's necessarily the smart thing to do, it's just hard to keep a guy into year 4 or beyond if they put up like 4 wins. fartknocker posted:Belichick isn’t retiring until he passes Shula. Grittybeard posted:Andy Reid is getting up there a bit in years so that's a theoretical possibility I suppose. For both Carroll & Belichick I just look at how, in a job full of curmudgeonly old fucks who worked until they died... nobody's ever started a season as an NFL head coach over age 72. Just really hard for me to get past that. Andy's "only" 65, so while I doubt he'll make it to 2030, I don't see him going while life's this good.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2023 17:54 |
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Diva Cupcake posted:Belichick coaching 3-4 more years just to break a record probably doesn’t align with Kraft’s timeline if they’re a .500 team the next couple years. I think that whole thing is nonsense sports radio fluff and Kraft has no timeline beyond scheduling when his dick gets sucked.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2023 18:22 |
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Oh I do only expect like 5-6 vacancies, I just figured when they rattled off like 10 guys, like yeah there's probably about 10 guys who could realistically be fired each year. Just a bunch of them don't crash and burn. Like Dorsey... theoretically could be fired, but it's hard to imagine the Bills sucking that bad without Josh Allen getting injured, and if he gets injured, Dorsey's probably safe due to that injury. Just hard to see them failing to get to at least like 8 wins otherwise.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2023 19:38 |
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All of humanity dies because they need some earth but they're stuck on field turf.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2023 16:27 |
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Yeah, the XFL kickoff might need a few tweaks, but they absolutely should switch to it. It makes the kickoff into a for real football play again, without the car crash aspect
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2023 18:47 |
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Pretty sure BroBible is what gave us the leaked Patriots Johnny Manziel draft file, which had enough real touches that I suspect it was actually real. Outlaw Bloodlines
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 21:30 |
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Judon was having a quiet hold-in and it worked, got a raise this year. He was making ~$12.5 so probably got a little more raw money and some incentives to make up that $18m I guess. https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1687596216819785728
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2023 00:43 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 18:27 |
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I want to taser anyone who reports training camp stats.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2023 21:50 |