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I’ve been wanting to find a corollary to the ship of Theseus that equates to “the original was completely lost, but we took a new thing and are going to pretend it’s the old thing” a la when the Star Trek enterprise was destroyed so they quickly recommissioned another ship to have the same name. I’ve done this a few times with personal items that were lost/destroyed like my lord of the rings dvds
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git apologist posted:i have a pc of theseus right here op, it’s probably 15 years old but none of the components are more than 2 years old my current pc has mostly new parts from 2022 except for my 1060 6gb from 2017 and one spinning platter western digital "green" drive i bought around 2007-2008
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git apologist posted:i have a pc of theseus right here op, it’s probably 15 years old but none of the components are more than 2 years old I'd go with Trigger's Broom instead of the ship of theseus since it's computer janitorial equipment.
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Silver Alicorn posted:I’ve been wanting to find a corollary to the ship of Theseus that equates to “the original was completely lost, but we took a new thing and are going to pretend it’s the old thing” a la when the Star Trek enterprise was destroyed so they quickly recommissioned another ship to have the same name. I’ve done this a few times with personal items that were lost/destroyed like my lord of the rings dvds wait till you hear how many “uss enterprise”-es there have been irl
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1701-Deez Nuts
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George posted:1701-Deez Nuts if they kept just appending letters to new ones you would indeed eventually arrive at that registry number if you blew up enough ships
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git apologist posted:i have a pc of theseus right here op, it’s probably 15 years old but none of the components are more than 2 years old nope, the bios/uefi chip and it’s memory are the soul of the machine, and when this is replaced, you have slain the beast but another has come to take its place
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very dead apple ][e oldest working is quadra 650 running a/ux 3.0 and after that uhh some 486 embedded thing like a pc-engines alix edit oh yeah a macintosh plus it "works" with copious case smacking but i don't have a working system 6 floppy and none of my machines can bless that old DJ Commie fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Aug 17, 2023 |
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Needed money for an emergency move two years ago and so I sold off the remnants of my Amiga 1200 setup. It was my first computer, had it since I was three years old, but I haven’t used it in years so I decided to send it to someone who’ll actually use it. It’s in Arizona now and last I heard the new owner is making a game with it.
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echinopsis posted:nope, the bios/uefi chip and it’s memory are the soul of the machine, and when this is replaced, you have slain the beast but another has come to take its place I found a few of these recently while going through some old boxes. https://www.overclockers.com/bios-savior/
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The oldest one that I know exactly where it is is a white macbook. I think I have an older thinkpad somewhere but I don’t know where and haven’t seen it in years.
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palm III, op
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wait actually i have an atari 1800(?) somewhere
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Elder Postsman posted:update: it still works this was the second computer i ever programmed. the first was some mainframe i connected to via teletype in the third grade and programmed a 10 GOTO 20 type thing, i had the tape laying around for a ling time
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I have a Gateway 2000 with a Pentium 60 that still boots into Windows 95. In my life time of spinning HDDs, this is the only one that still works and probably has the most hours on it.
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oldest is an Atari XEGS, which is just an Atari 65XE computer shoved into a goofy game console shell with pastel buttons, and the official end of the 8-bit computer line. if i ever bite the bullet and get either an original disk drive or a drive emulator i can turn it into a fully-functional 65XE, but having a MiSTer has greatly diminished my desire to do so second oldest is my family's old PC, a K6-III 380 MHz with 64 MB RAM, a Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold, and some generic Cirrus Logic SVGA card. i still use it to run DOS stuff when i feel like giving myself a headache
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rotor posted:this was the second computer i ever programmed. the first was some mainframe i connected to via teletype in the third grade and programmed a 10 GOTO 20 type thing, i had the tape laying around for a ling time still find it hosed up that terminals used to be on essentially typewriters
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hbag posted:still find it hosed up that terminals used to be on essentially typewriters console output makes more sense sometimes if you remember it was originally typed out on a new page every time something changed.
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Silver Alicorn posted:well, you can’t like, own things, maaaaan I just got my OR840 today from a friend. Dual 733s and supposed to go with a Voodoo 3500. I am however encountering a weird issue: It's benching at 30-40% what it should. I'm basing this off comparing my own results on a 440bx with the same hardware, and reviews on the internet. Without fail, everything I do, it comes out to 40% where it should be. What I have tried: Changing RDRAM from PC600 512 to PC800 128. Stable, not performing right. Switching GPU from a Voodoo 3 to a TNT 2 Ultra. Stable, not performing right. Switching OS: 98SE and 2K both have the same results. Switching drivers, Chipset and video card. Stable, not performing right. Updating bios, messing with bios settings, resetting bios settings. Stable, not performing right. Improving system cooling. Stable, not performing right. Checking that both aux power ports are connected. No change. Removing all peripherals. No change. It's baffling and frustrating me. It's entirely stable, doesn't crash, temperatures are fine and the bios recognizes both processors. Windows recognizes both processors. The system _works_ but it's performing wildly below expectations. Benchmarks tried: 3Dmark 99 and 2000, and Quake 3 timedemos. In all cases, it performs 30-40% compared to my own testing and documentation online. I would love to try older bios versions, but have not found any. I would also like to try the IBM bios, but I can't figure out how to force it. What the hell gives? If something is broken, I'd expect instability not a lack of performance. Whole project was a lovely bust, so I just set it back to Pentium 3 600 on a 440bx. Recently got an LC475 to fix up and resell and getting a 7100/80 this week for actual usage. God I miss my 8600. I had to sell it before I went to basic because I couldn't store it, but gently caress I miss it. So badly. SRQ fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Aug 28, 2023 |
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if memory serves, last month there was a guy at the flea with an 8600. think he wanted $50 for it. want me to keep an eye out next time?
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Raluek posted:if memory serves, last month there was a guy at the flea with an 8600. think he wanted $50 for it. want me to keep an eye out next time? I’d pay as much as 4x that and shipping for a good one, yes please. anything high end system 7 era
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I have a 7100/80 now. It's making me miss the 8600 more but at least it's a usable Sys 7 era machine.
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Yeah, first gen. So it is pretty cool even if the case is kinda scuffed. I keep trying to do the same thingsI would on my old 8600 and getting disappointed though lol
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rotor posted:wait actually i have an atari 1800(?) somewhere it's either a 800, 800XL or the rare 1200XL
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I want an 800xl
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Silver Alicorn posted:I want an 800xl i thnk its an 800xl but im not diggin it up
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its got like game cartriges and joysrticks and poo poo too
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also I have a mister
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Silver Alicorn posted:it probably doesn't work anymore well i dont have a power cord for it so yeah hard to say
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schroedinger’s atari
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rotor posted:this was the second computer i ever programmed. the first was some mainframe i connected to via teletype in the third grade and programmed a 10 GOTO 20 type thing, i had the tape laying around for a ling time gently caress sounds like you were there when they invented binary
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🤔 what if we only had two number 🤔 and boom computers got invented
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echinopsis posted:🤔 what if we only had two number 🤔 arguably going via "what if we have only one number" as asked by alonzo church, who then supervised turing and from there we got real extravagant with the digits
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either my laptop (2017) or my Antikythera mechanism (~200 bce)
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:arguably going via "what if we have only one number" as asked by alonzo church, who then supervised turing and from there we got real extravagant with the digits imo we have too many numbers these days
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