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Cybernetic Vermin posted:just dropping in to remind people that an ipad is not a computer, cheers and have fun 
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Dec 5, 2023 16:49
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i got win98se working fine on the cheapo core2duo machine, but then i installed win2k on a separate partition and im realizing that its way more pleasant to actually use. at this point i have the two dual booting and will likely just stick with booting into win2k after getting things set up i was able to plug in the full 3GB of ram i had available and then configure win98 to only see 512MB of it
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Dec 6, 2023 07:41
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when people fondly remember windows 95/98 its some mandela effect poo poo, and what they actually liked was 2000
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Dec 6, 2023 12:45
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Progressive JPEG posted:i got win98se working fine on the cheapo core2duo machine, but then i installed win2k on a separate partition and im realizing that its way more pleasant to actually use. at this point i have the two dual booting and will likely just stick with booting into win2k Win98 is too old for a core 2 duo anyway. XP was the contemporary OS for that.
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Dec 6, 2023 16:50
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Sweevo posted:when people fondly remember windows 95/98 its some mandela effect poo poo, and what they actually liked was 2000 I had a machine with windows ME for a long while.
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Dec 6, 2023 16:51
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leper khan posted:Win98 is too old for a core 2 duo anyway. XP was the contemporary OS for that. nah it works fine
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Dec 6, 2023 16:51
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how did you find win98 compatible drivers for the newer hardware?
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Dec 6, 2023 17:00
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I never used Windows 2000 and I'm nostalgic for Windows 98(SE). Too bad it doesn't work. (I mean yeah it works so-so for a year or so and then you have to reinstall it.)
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Dec 6, 2023 17:01
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Sweevo posted:when people fondly remember windows 95/98 its some mandela effect poo poo, and what they actually liked was 2000 I stand by that 98 was a great operating system. If you were a gamer, 98 was the best till XP SP1 and the directX updates for XP came out. Also, TCP/IP was much better than 95 and 3.1 and so easy to set up a small home network to share the internet through dialup using the Internet sharing for 98. Hop on a computer connected to the network with internet sharing, open a browser, and a second later I could hear the modem in the computer in the basement sing the song of its people then be on the internet in 15 seconds.
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Dec 6, 2023 20:08
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Sweevo posted:when people fondly remember windows 95/98 its some mandela effect poo poo, and what they actually liked was 2000 wasnt windows 2000 a workstation/server os? i dont think i ever used it in my life, and i dont think most home computer users would have either. windows 98 SE was my first internet-connected home computer os and i remember it fondly enough for that reason.
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Dec 6, 2023 20:10
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2000 is basically XP without the clown theme, except it runs a lot faster on the same hardware, and never got all the lovely bloat that XP ended up with towards the end
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Dec 6, 2023 20:47
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win2k was my favorite windows of all time to use but a bunch of games wouldnt run on it, which was a problem.
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Dec 6, 2023 20:54
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I used to dual boot NT4 and 98 as a kid and when I figured out the blizzard stuff worked in NT I was like  
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Dec 6, 2023 22:45
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as far as i know, windows 2000 was never actually released to home users and people who used it were either super turbonerds who for some reason wanted enterprise software on their home computers or grown-rear end adults who got it from work (overlap is non-zero, of course)
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Dec 6, 2023 22:54
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i used it because of getting surplus workstation hardware from weird stuff warehouse dual p-iii and 512mb ram but had to buy 64bit 5v pci video cards that weren't meant for gaming at all
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Dec 7, 2023 00:17
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dual P3s are the poo poo
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Dec 7, 2023 00:29
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the ironic part is that the surplus machine I got was from 3dfx when they closed up i think it ended up with some ati card that could run at 5v
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Dec 7, 2023 00:53
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Silver Alicorn posted:I'd argue that the availability & dependence on a full keyboard to allow tasks such as calculation, word processing, etc differentiates a "computer" from a "games console" where such things are completely ancillary if available whats a computer - posted from my ipad
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Dec 7, 2023 06:57
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Silver Alicorn posted:how did you find win98 compatible drivers for the newer hardware? the mobo generally Just Worked except for the onboard sound and network. fixed by plugging in a usb sound card dongle and a spare pcie ethernet card meanwhile for graphics i found a geforce 6600 for like $10 shipped and that was at or near the last generation with 98/2k driver support however i noticed that NOLF textures were all fucky on 98 unless i went with an older version of the graphics driver, meanwhile i didn't have this issue at all on 2k i dont have my notes in front of me but can paste em later if anyone wants
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Dec 7, 2023 08:50
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oh the pcie ethernet card only worked in 98 if i used some ndis/dos mode drivers that are very slow. but im only using the network for copying stuff over via ftp so that i don't need to shift a usb stick around. 2k meanwhile has native drivers i think the funy thing with 98 is that it still manages to hitch up constantly despite the vastly overpowered hardware that it's barely using. meanwhile 2k is super smooth
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Dec 7, 2023 08:54
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my old computers are all gone.  if you are digging up your old 8-bit computers from the basement, please check the voltage on the power supply before you plug them in. many C64 motherboards have been fried from a dying power supply that decided to send a voltage spike as its last gasp.
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Dec 7, 2023 11:30
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yeah, I found a C64 buried deep in a closet and I'm not going to turn it on until I get a replacement power supply for it. it's a 1987 canadian model branded for the then-upcoming 1988 winter olympics, so not the oldest of C64, but that power supply probably hasn't been turned on in 25 years so I don't trust it one bit also need a video output mod because it's been a decade since I had something that can take an RF modulator oldest working computer: mac classic ii, which will be displaced by a microvax that I need to recap the PSU on because the magic smoke came out.
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Dec 7, 2023 11:44
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Achmed Jones posted:as far as i know, windows 2000 was never actually released to home users and people who used it were either super turbonerds who for some reason wanted enterprise software on their home computers or grown-rear end adults who got it from work (overlap is non-zero, of course) never marketed to home users is true i'm quite sure, but at the time we're talking it was on the same shelf in a similar box as far as i can recall. also it for sure in-place upgraded from windows 9x, and there was a cheaper upgrade price ($200ish i think) from those. so, idk, mostly a matter of definition
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Dec 7, 2023 11:53
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i don't have my old computers but my Acer AL2423W 24" lcd from 2006 is still working and on an arm also got a 2006 mac mini but i took that from work in like 2010
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Dec 7, 2023 16:27
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the 2006 Mac mini is old enough to get a drivers license in America
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Dec 7, 2023 17:14
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Silver Alicorn posted:the 2006 Mac mini is old enough to get a drivers license in America Joe Biden has a driver's license in America. Serriouspost: in a civilised society he wouldn't.t
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Dec 7, 2023 22:00
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I don't have any old computers but I still have something pretty cool. A book called "High Speed Computing Devices" published in 1950 explaining computers and how they work in a technical sense. Surprisingly easy to read because a Turing machine and its I/O hasn't hasn't fundamentally changed since then.
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Dec 7, 2023 23:29
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it is kinda wild that we haven’t found a better way to crunch numbers
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Dec 7, 2023 23:31
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Joe Biden has a driver's license in America. olds should be allowed to have drivers licenses, just with more frequent testing. that's what we do in nz, you need to practical tests every couple of years waka kotahi posted:Drivers must renew their driver licence at age 75, 80 and every 2 years after that.
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Dec 8, 2023 00:43
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yep that sounds like a brilliant idea. only difference i'd propose is that everyone with a license has to be retested every 5 years until they're 70, then every 2 thereafter. also there will be two passing grades: one hard cutoff where you immediately lose your license until you retake driving school, and one that changes year to year where anyone scoring below the 20th percentile of all passing scores doesn't lose their their license, but has to take driving school in the next 6 months to keep it.
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Dec 8, 2023 00:47
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Sagebrush posted:yep that sounds like a brilliant idea. only difference i'd propose is that everyone with a license has to be retested every 5 years until they're 70, then every 2 thereafter. 
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Dec 8, 2023 00:51
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also trucks should require a cdl
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Dec 8, 2023 01:23
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Progressive JPEG posted:just ordered a core2duo 3ghz machine from trademe for real cheap Way too new to run 98 comfortably. 98 is good on a Pentium 2 up to a 4 and even that's a stretch- it has a limited hardware window.
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Dec 8, 2023 01:52
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SRQ posted:Way too new to run 98 comfortably. 98 is good on a Pentium 2 up to a 4 and even that's a stretch- it has a limited hardware window.
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Dec 8, 2023 08:45
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oh one thing ive noticed is the computer forgets all its bios settings if its unplugged for longer than 5s or so tried swapping the button battery on the mobo but it still does it
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Dec 8, 2023 08:46
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klosterdev posted:I don't have any old computers but I still have something pretty cool. A book called "High Speed Computing Devices" published in 1950 explaining computers and how they work in a technical sense. Surprisingly easy to read because a Turing machine and its I/O hasn't hasn't fundamentally changed since then. I've got a systems design book from the early 1960s and, apart from most of the hardware stuff, it's all valid today. And completely disregarded by people who design systems, of course.
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Dec 8, 2023 09:22
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https://youtu.be/zcP_Dfgvuo8
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An ASUS Eee PC from 2010ish. I've moved around so much I haven't had the luxury of keeping a supply of dead/moribund old computers around.
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