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https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/05/tapping-a-maple-on-a-cold-vermont-morning/393344/
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Aug 3, 2023 01:25
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Do you know how many handjobs I’m going to have to give to smooth this thing over?
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Aug 3, 2023 01:44
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I remember one of the first jokes was "let's consult with our man in research" and they were talking about a lady
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Aug 3, 2023 02:05
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:yeah but there were so many people, in the first couple of years mad men was on, carrying on about how they loved the sixties look Yeah, back then social and cultural trends didn't evolve nearly as quickly as they do now, except in moments of extreme social stress. There's a reason why most historians pin 1963 as the true start of The Sixties.
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Aug 3, 2023 02:24
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:I read your shortest paragraph Drinking in the office is not tolerated now?
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Aug 3, 2023 02:28
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sebmojo posted:It ends really strong, I bailed on it too but it's worth finishing up. I'll have to finish up sometime. I never finished Rome either. I guess I finished Deadwood but I can't remember, I always fizzle out around the middle of season 3 on rewatches. What a start though.
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Aug 3, 2023 02:36
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HELL’S BELLS, TRUDY!
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Aug 3, 2023 02:50
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Aug 3, 2023 11:44
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what sort of name is january
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Aug 3, 2023 12:10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKgPTkIulEI
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Aug 3, 2023 12:14
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SURPRISE, THERE'S AN AIRPLANE HERE TO SEE YOU!
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Aug 3, 2023 13:46
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I'm going to have to admit one thing about Mad Men that I don't know if it's a good/bad thing about the show. So many other times that a hugely popular series hits TV, I'm aware of so many things about it even if I don't watch it. Never watched more than a handful of GOT, Breaking Bad, Stranger Things, etc. content, but I feel like, "Well, yeah, I know about the general stuff going on in the show and who is who." just from the cultural osmosis. Mad Men? You could tell me about the episode where literal James Bond showed up to stop a Russian spy from putting subliminal messages in an ad and I'd just have to believe you that it was a real thing.
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Aug 3, 2023 14:01
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It's a very character-driven show in a relatively low-stakes setting with a wide cast of main and recurring characters, there aren't many "events" as such that would easily break into the cultural consciousness in a way that a lot of its prestige contemporaries did. It reminds me of Orange Is The New Black in that regard, I didn't watch that and I feel the exact same way about it.
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Aug 3, 2023 14:18
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There definitely some important events, like the above mentioned lawnmower incident, the Toasted presentation, the Carousel pitch, the fight 
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Aug 3, 2023 14:50
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git apologist posted:what sort of name is january it was perfect casting crazy person playing a crazy person
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Aug 3, 2023 14:54
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mobby_6kl posted:There definitely some important events, like the above mentioned lawnmower incident, the Toasted presentation, the Carousel pitch, the fight Oh definitely, but nothing the magnitude of like the Red Wedding, "this is not meth", Ragnar becoming earl, the big things that happen on Mad Men tend not to be the kind of titanic  shockers that happen on a lot of other shows.
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Aug 3, 2023 15:10
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AvesPKS posted:
I love Pete meekly submitting to Bob Benson. Pete has him all figured out but then he’s like “nah I know you con man types are always going to get the better of me in the end anyway”
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Aug 3, 2023 15:13
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JediTalentAgent posted:I'm going to have to admit one thing about Mad Men that I don't know if it's a good/bad thing about the show. Mad Men isn't a shock and awe show in the way Breaking Bad or GOT were. It's aiming for psychological depth and social commentary, not exciting plotlines. There are zero cliffhangers in the entire show. The most outlandish thing in the show is that Don assumed somebody else's identity and even that feels a bit out of place and isn't that important. In S1 when that fact is revealed to his boss, his boss just says 'who cares' and they move on. So individual events don't get picked out of context for internet fame or reaction videos because without the context, they're nothing special. Some exception for the more obvious comedy moments like 'not great bob', but again, you've not no clue as to what that line is about. It's a good thing about the show. I like the thriller shows too, but mad men is more grown up and less eager to please.
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Aug 3, 2023 15:14
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Nobody's brought this up yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXoILGnHnvM great scene
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Aug 3, 2023 15:24
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The big moments on mad men are big because of the context surrounding them. The part at the end of The Jet Set where Don calls Anna and says his actual name is shocking because of the two seasons leading up to it. The season 3 finale is a wonderful piece of work but the memorable scenes surrounding it all work because of the drudgery through the rest of the seasons work season and Connie Hilton stuff. And so on. Honestly the only scenes that I think work with no context as “big moments” are the carousel pitch and the miller meeting. And those are more just because of Jon hamm
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Aug 3, 2023 15:30
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JediTalentAgent posted:I'm going to have to admit one thing about Mad Men that I don't know if it's a good/bad thing about the show. So you'd say you don't think about it at all?
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Aug 3, 2023 15:30
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to be fair, i did once work with a guy who would just disappear for hours at a time in the middle of the workday. no one knew where he went or why, and he never got fired. i'm not saying it's common, but it's doable.
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Aug 3, 2023 15:38
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Earwicker posted:to be fair, i did once work with a guy who would just disappear for hours at a time in the middle of the workday. no one knew where he went or why, and he never got fired. i'm not saying it's common, but it's doable. slow moving bowels
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Aug 3, 2023 15:41
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Lane Pryce hanging himself is a pretty big event.
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Aug 3, 2023 15:48
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Larry Cum Free posted:I love Pete meekly submitting to Bob Benson. Pete has him all figured out but then he’s like “nah I know you con man types are always going to get the better of me in the end anyway” Darn, edit: I totally forgot Pete's mom got pushed off a cruise ship. And people say nothing happened on this show! AvesPKS fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Aug 3, 2023 16:00
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^^his boyfriend who was romance scamming her did!  Bismack Billabongo posted:The big moments on mad men are big because of the context surrounding them. The part at the end of The Jet Set where Don calls Anna and says his actual name is shocking because of the two seasons leading up to it. The season 3 finale is a wonderful piece of work but the memorable scenes surrounding it all work because of the drudgery through the rest of the seasons work season and Connie Hilton stuff. And so on. Honestly the only scenes that I think work with no context as “big moments” are the carousel pitch and the miller meeting. And those are more just because of Jon hamm I don't think the Carousel scene even works if you don't know what an absolute disaster Don's life actually is as he shows the Norman Rockwell-rear end slides of his family. Hey and a thanks to the jerkass OP who got us all reminiscing about how good Mad Men was!
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Aug 3, 2023 16:05
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Larry Cum Free posted:I don't think the Carousel scene even works if you don't know what an absolute disaster Don's life actually is as he shows the Norman Rockwell-rear end slides of his family. it does, just in a different way. i worked at an ad agency when the show first came out, and i refused to watch it because i didn't want to watch tv about work poo poo. but other people at work loved it, and this was also right around the time huge corporations were just starting to get on social media and figure out how to do internet marketing, so that scene was the first thing from the show i saw because people would literally play it meetings and talk about how this is what facebook is doing etc. and it definitely makes an impact even if you have no previous clue who Don is or what his life is like, it's a very well done scene Earwicker fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Aug 3, 2023 16:11
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Remember when Roger pissed Don off by hitting on Betty, so then Don took Roger out to lunch, stuffed Roger full of oysters and alcohol, bribed the elevator operator in their office building to shut the elevator down, forced Roger to climb the 23 flights of stairs up to their office, impassively watched Roger vomit all over himself in front of a client, and then walked off with a smile on his face?
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Aug 3, 2023 16:12
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Speaking of Don's family life reminded me of one actually nice moment where they have their little picnic on a hill, then when they're done Don just whips his beer can and Betty flips all the garbage off the blanket and they drive off. Good thing we've become so environmentally conscious now!
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Aug 3, 2023 16:21
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Which season ended with a look at where every character was and for Peggy she looked out her motel window to see to dogs loving. I'm not misremembering that? If I'm not, wtf did that mean?!
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Aug 3, 2023 16:29
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Bismack Billabongo posted:The big moments on mad men are big because of the context surrounding them. The part at the end of The Jet Set where Don calls Anna and says his actual name is shocking because of the two seasons leading up to it. The season 3 finale is a wonderful piece of work but the memorable scenes surrounding it all work because of the drudgery through the rest of the seasons work season and Connie Hilton stuff. And so on. Honestly the only scenes that I think work with no context as “big moments” are the carousel pitch and the miller meeting. And those are more just because of Jon hamm I think the closest I remember to an "OH HOLY gently caress" moment was Duck pulling his coup with the PPL purchase and finally having a one-up on Draper, only for Don to say, "I don't have a contract." Which then ends with Duck not being able to keep his cool because it's obvious that Don is a lynchpin in the entire deal, and that sinks Duck's chance to run the new subsidiary. Something else I appreciated about the show is that they used the first couple of seasons to construct Don Draper, only to break him and deconstruct him in the later seasons. A lot of the younger executives at SC were envious of him, but once his marriage falls apart and he lives in that apartment, the new younger employees at SCDP don't have that mystique and see him as an old alcoholic. He eventually rebuilds when he marries Megan, but he still fucks up after that occasionally (like the Life Cereal pitch). So much so that when he drops that ending with Hershey's, he now has to be put on a leash. Even Roger had to admit to it. Since he doesn't like being put on a leash, he gets the ball rolling on the eventual buy-out by McCann Erickson that he put the kibosh on only a year or two beforehand. It's the only thing that can rescue him, because they don't know his more recent past and still only know the myth, not the man. Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Lane Pryce hanging himself is a pretty big event. They set up his initial suicide attempt so well. They get the Jaguar account, which Cooper writes off as, "They're lemons!" So when he tries to suffocate himself with the tailpipe, he can't because the car won't stop. That show had so many darkly funny moments.
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Saalkin posted:Which season ended with a look at where every character was and for Peggy she looked out her motel window to see to dogs loving. I'm not misremembering that? If I'm not, wtf did that mean?! I want to say season 6. I think the whole point is that Peggy was seeing herself move on up as the executive that gets to travel, only to be reminded that it's just a motel and that you're going to occasionally have to deal with seeing two dogs loving. It was also the same ending where Roger just stands naked in front of his giant window, hanging dong for all of New York to see. Dude's turned on to LSD and it's changing his entire worldview.
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Aug 3, 2023 16:31
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mojo1701a posted:Since he doesn't like being put on a leash, he gets the ball rolling on the eventual buy-out by McCann Erickson that he put the kibosh on only a year or two beforehand. It's the only thing that can rescue him, because they don't know his more recent past and still only know the myth, not the man. That was great since he'd finally made the big time at McCann, only to discover that it's a soulless drone factory and he's now just one cog in a much bigger machine than he was expecting.
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Aug 3, 2023 16:38
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McSpanky posted:That was great since he'd finally made the big time at McCann, only to discover that it's a soulless drone factory and he's now just one cog in a much bigger machine than he was expecting. But he learns to accept it!
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Aug 3, 2023 16:51
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McSpanky posted:That was great since he'd finally made the big time at McCann, only to discover that it's a soulless drone factory and he's now just one cog in a much bigger machine than he was expecting. I loved the shot of his two new bosses trying to be all hip and cool with suit-wearing Don by saying, "We're a shirt-sleeves operation here", and Don is just staring at them like, "Oh, poo poo, these guys don't get it." That's how I took the scene, anyway. SC&P did a lot of great work because they were very flexible with their operation, and ME thinks it's just a matter of... not wearing a suit jacket once in a while. Larry Cum Free posted:But he learns to accept it! I still remember reading Matthew Weiner always writing Don in such a way that you still hope things work out for him, but don't because he's his own worst enemy. Maybe in the "I'm OK, you're OK" 1970's he finally found that balance.
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Aug 3, 2023 16:55
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mojo1701a posted:I loved the shot of his two new bosses trying to be all hip and cool with suit-wearing Don by saying, "We're a shirt-sleeves operation here", and Don is just staring at them like, "Oh, poo poo, these guys don't get it." yes 
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Aug 3, 2023 16:58
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I like the clothes
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Aug 3, 2023 17:15
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I always found the ending to be super loving depressing. Don goes through all this horrendous, deeply painful psychological barrier breaking, having the guts to just leave mccann by walking away, giving his entire share of the sale to megan, giving away his car, winding up at the weirdo therapy camp on the coast, accepting himself for who he is, having an utter breakdown while talking to the only woman who really knows him, finding inner peace... and using that insight and experience to come back and sell coca cola. How intensely, deeply cynical. OP don't read this post yet
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I read somewhere that John Ham was borderline homeless and thought about living in his car at one point before being cast in this show and then had to deal with a lot of attention suddenly also he’s friends with kristen wigg irl and that’s what they did some much comedy stuff together (I like kristen wigg)
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