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 Welcome to the Warhammer 40,000 thread! Check out the previous thread here. What is Warhammer 40,000? Warhammer 40,000 (aka 40k aka Warhams) is a tabletop miniatures wargame created by Games Workshop set in the far-off forty-first millennium. It has over 40 years of rulebooks, miniatures, novels, video games, and death metal set in its expansive universe. In 2023, Games Workshop released the game's 10th Edition, improving on the already well-received 9th Edition with cleaner/simplified rules and a greater focus on achieving tactical objectives. Who is Games Workshop? Games Workshop are the The Setting In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war (and yet more skulls). The 40k setting is one of the more compelling aspects of the game. The Imperium of Man stretches across the stars, and is a nightmare future where chances are pretty good you’ll get born in a sewer, rise up to become a lobotomized cyborg factory worker, and then have your skull turned into a little robot that carries toilet paper. It’s a cartoonishly bleak backdrop for a game where giant men in giant armour hit each other with chainsaw swords. Humanity is beset on all sides by aliens, traitors, daemons, and bureaucratic incompetence, and every day is a struggle for survival. The Horus Heresy The Horus heresy was a galactic civil war taking place 10,000 years before the current Warhammer 40K timeline. During this time, half of the Space Marine Legions fell to Chaos and half stayed loyal. These grudges and old rivalries still fuel the narrative 10,000 years later. There is a separate game system for the Horus Heresy that is not compatible with 10th Edition Warhammer 40K. There are also a large number of novels covering this setting. More on that later! The Armies There are a buttload of armies in this game, and chances are pretty good there’s one that’ll suit your playstyle. Whether you want giant supersoldiers with the best equipment available, or hordes of ravening aliens that blanket the table in models, there’s probably something for you! THE IMPERIUM OF MAN  Imagine if humanity made all the worst decisions it could’ve made and became the absolute worst version of itself it could ever be. It is a vast Empire with countless worlds and Trillions of souls within it. However, it is a religiously Fanatic, unbelievably oppressive, Xenophobic, fascist closed minded civilization driven mad by the horrors of the galaxy and chose to become the abyss that stares back. It is the worst place you can ever be born in as a normal human, a life of misery, toil and death and if you’re lucky your soul wont be eaten by demons. But GOD drat do they look cool and metal as hell! Mankind has expanded to become an imperceivable vast Empire with countless worlds and billions of souls within it. The only thing these worlds and people all have in common is their (enforced by the point of a gun and the loving embrace of the Inquisition) veneration of the immortal Emperor as a god (something he didnt want because he hated all religion), who sits on his Golden Throne on Terra, a mortally wounded giant husk of a man with god-like powers, his psychic light being the only thing that allows humanity to travel the stars, because the only way they can get from one planet to another is by travelling through the ‘warp’ a dimensional tunnel made from the ‘Hellraiser’ dimension, imagine if you had to ride a boat in an ocean that’s made of nothing but man-eating sharks and Sharknados, and the emperor is the only Lighthouse you can use to navigate it. Oh and you have to sacrifice a thousand psykers souls a day to keep that lighthouse working. Although Ironically, being entrapped on his throne for 10,000 years has led to him being ‘elevated’ into some form of godhood, and currently in the lore, something is stirring in the golden throne… As of 10th edition, in the Lore, the imperium is in deeper poo poo than it’s ever been before, a giant warp rift has split the galaxy and the imperium in half, the bottom is run by the central government of Imperium is governed by the recently revived Primarch Roboute Guilliman and the high lords of Terra. The top half is currently cut off and fending for themselves, however, with the return of the dark angels primarch Lion El’Jonson, the north of the imperium is fighting back bigtime. humanity is in the process of re-connecting these halves with the mighty indomitus crusade, a vast effort to fight back and re-connect the imperium as a whole, to try and revive this dying empire before it’s too late. Defended by the Mighty Space Marines, shadowy Inquisition , devout sisters of battle, mysterious Adeptus Mechanicus, and the endless armies of the Imperial Guard. Humanity marches ever forward, raging against the dying of the light, with no other goals than to survive to see the next war and defeat the next monster. But with 10th edition, a new danger approaches, a shadow in the warp, a giant maw of endless hunger and horror approaches, the Tyranids (extra galactic bio-horrors who eat everything living) are launching their biggest attack ever, with a moon-sized bio flesh orb, and this time… they’re coming for earth. The Current Main Characters of the imperium are:- - The emperor - Roboute Guilliman of the Ultramarines - Lion El'Jonson of the Dark Angels - The high lords of terra - Trajann Valoris of the Custodes - Belisarius Cawl of the Mechanicus - Lord Solar Leontus of the Astra Militarum (imperial Guard) LEVIATHAN APPROACHES! WHO ARE THE MIGHTY WARRIORS WHO WILL STAND AGAINST THE DEVOURER?!  SPACE MARINES  Games Workshop’s bread and butter. The Space Marines are humanity’s greatest warriors,towering genetically modified humans who are giants compared to regular people. They are the knights of the realm, split into thousand man chapters who act as the tip of the imperial spear. each the equal of a The main lore factions of the Space marines are the 9 loyalist factions, sadly, most of the loyalist primarchs are dead or disappeared, with only Roboute Guilliman and Lion El’Jonson who have returned from the dead, however, the fates of some of them is yet to be resolved, so maybe they’ll make a comeback!  The main Space Marine factions are:- - Ultramarines - Goody Good Boys - Their primarch Roboute Guilliman runs the imperium - Dark Angels - Knights of the Round - their primarch Lion ElJonson is back to kick butt. - Black Templars - Religious fanatics - Space Wolves - Vikings out for a good time - Blood Angels - Vampire Pretty boys led by the prettiest boy of them all. - Salamanders - Forgers of fire and steel - Iron Hands - Robotics and mechanics specialists, their disappeared primarch looks like frank castle from the punisher. - Imperial Fists - siege specialists - Raven Guard - Brandon Lee in 'The Crow' - Death Watch - G.I. JOEEEE A REAL IMPERIUM HERO G.I. JOE is there! -White Scars - Mongolian steppe warriors given cool bikes GREY KNIGHTS  Well, uh, this is awkward. You know how the Space Marines are the best of the best? Well these are the best of the best of the best. Each Grey Knight is a psyker, trained to fight and kill daemons, traitors, and the myriad forces of Chaos. This is an even more elite army than the Space Marines, and they’re bolstered on the battlefield by their powerful psychic powers and anti-daemon abilities. ADEPTUS CUSTODES - SISTERS OF SILENCE  Well, this is starting to get ridiculous. Even more elite than the elite of the elite are the Adeptus Custodes. These fabulous golden boys are all extremely able and extremely tough, exemplifying the idea of quality over quantity. If you want to focus on having a small, but extremely potent army, look no further. Working extremely closely with the Adeptus Custodes, the Sisters of Silence are all psychic blanks, able to just ruin the day of any psykers who had any plans to cast today. They work very closely with the Custodes, and you can slot them right into a Custodes detachment without losing any of your Custodes' detachment abilities, or keep them in their own detachments. SISTERS OF BATTLE  Due to a language oversight, the Ministorum could not have a standing army of men, but it said nothing about an army of women! The Sisters of Battle, also known colloquially as nuns with guns, are a zealous fighting force made entirely of women in power armour armed with boltguns, similar to Space Marines. While not genetically enhanced like the Space Marines, they do have access to powerful Acts of Faith that manifest on the battlefield. They received a full update in 8th edition, bringing them a full plastic model range and new rules. ASTRA MILITARUM  Also known as the Imperial Guard, the Astra Militarum is the largest fighting force Humanity has ever mustered. Billions of souls from millions of worlds unite under the banner of the Imperium to fight in His name. While not as powerful individually as the Space Marines, what they lack in individual strength they make up for in sheer numbers and armoured support. if you want an army that plays like World War II in space, this is the army for you! What makes the Imperial guard so badass isnt just the tanks, the artillery, the myriad of factions and homeworlds and aesthetics you can choose from (sadly some more expensive and rare than others) It’s that and the end of the day, it’s just regular people like me and you facing up against the literal horrors of hell itself. I mean yeah you and about a thousand or ten of your friends will die, but wait till you see the look on that hell demons face when your artillery finally lands a hit on them! The variety of uniforms and schemes gives you the opportunity to customise your own force, and the sheer number of tanks available is a treadhead’s dream. This faction is a tankers dream. The most Prominent Regiments are:- 1- Cadian Shock Troops 2- Death Korps of Krieg 3- Tallarn Desert Raiders 4- Mordian Iron Guard 5- Vostroyan Firstborn 6- Armageddon Steel Legion 7- Valhallan Ice Warriors 8- Catachan Jungle Fighters 9- The commissars who's pistols are aimed at the backs of everyones head. ADEPTUS MECHANICUS  “IFrom the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call the temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal… Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.” Responsible for the fabrication and invention of all the Imperium's war machines and equipment is the Adeptus Mechanicus. Their standing armies consist of cyborgs, servitors, and biomechanical horrors armed with exotic, electric and radioactive weaponry on powerful mechanical chassis. Hailing from Mars, the Adeptus Mechanicus supplies most other armies of the Imperium with tech priests and in addition to their other equipment. A more recent addition to the game, the Adeptus Mechanicus are a unique army among the forces of the Imperium. IMPERIAL AGENTS  The Imperium of man has many agents, assassins, inquisitors, Adeptus Arbites and the Imperial navy breachers and general weirdos working for it. While not always viable as a full army, Imperial Agents typically make for a fun and characterful extension of an existing force. IMPERIAL KNIGHTS  “Where kings walk, Knights follow” Mechwariors and Battletechs in the 41st millenium, what's not to love? you wanna be a cool mecha pilot mowing down hordes or fighting other mecha? this is the faction for you! Do you like giant robots? Because we’ve got giant robots. Knights are single-pilot bipedal war machines that tower over the battlefield. Smaller than the war machines of the titan legions, knights are often seconded to another force. Capable of taking immense punishment and dishing it in return, they’re a force to be reckoned with on the tabletop, and offer painters the chance to go nuts designing their own heraldry or drawing from one of the established schemes. CHAOS  Chaos comes from the warp, essentially hell in space. Fueled by unchecked emotion, Chaos corrupts, and none are free from its grasp. The four Chaos gods vie for control over the souls of mortals, each representing a different aspect or desire. Khorne is the god of war and bloodshed, Slaanesh is the god of excess, Tzeentch is the god of change, and Nurgle is the god of decay. Every action can fuel Chaos in some way, and it is for this reason that Chaos is the greatest threat to the Imperium, and the galaxy at large. The main Characters of Chaos are:- - Abbadon the Despoiler - Neutral Chaos - the most feared and successful chaos leader. - Vashtorr the Arkifane - Demon - a mechanical demon out to ascend - He won the last major story campaign 'Arks of Omen' and probably has the key a superweapon right now. - Mortarion - Death Guard Primarch - got owned by Guilliman. - Typhus - Nurgle - Angron - World Eaters Primarch - Khorne Demon of unstoppable rage - Kharn the Betrayer - Khorne character - Ahriman the Sorcerer - Tzeench nerd - Fulgrim - emperors children Primarch - Slaanesh Demon Primarch - Magnus the red - Thousand Sons Primarch - Tzeench Demon Primarch - Perturabo - Iron Warriors Primarch - Neutral Chaos Demon Primarch CHAOS SPACE MARINES  “Your shrines will burn, your streets run with blood, your false idols shattered, your people slaughtered by the thousands, your very planet torn apart… and the barest fraction of my hatred will be satisfied.” Embittered, ancient, Veterans of the Long War, most Chaos Space Marines fell to the dark powers during the Horus heresy. Whether they are The devout of one of the four Chaos gods, grudge bearing renegades, or just spacefaring pirates out for their own gain, the Chaos Space Marines are as diverse and ruthless as their loyalist counterparts. They are also a great opportunity for modellers, as they can use parts from loyalists, Chaos, and Horus Heresy kits to great effect when customising their own models. DEATH GUARD  While not all Plague Marines belong to the Death Guard, all Death Guard are Plague Marines. The Death Guard are entirely devoted to Nurgle, and spread his plagues throughout the galaxy. The Death Guard are incredibly tough, even more so than regular Space Marines. Supported by hordes of Poxwalkers, they can be a very difficult force to shift on the battlefield. If you like zombie or horror aesthetics, this is the army for you. THOUSAND SONS  The Thousand Sons are, for the most part, an army of automatons inside power armour. Well most of the Legion is but dust inside their armour, its most powerful Sorcerers are still alive and well. fewer in number than regular Chaos Space Marines, the Thousand Sons rely on their powerful psychic abilities to carry them through the battle. With an Egyptian theme and a bevy of psychic powers at their disposal, the Thousand Sons are a very distinctive Chaos Legion. WORLD EATERS  The galaxy is in turmoil, friends and family turn upon each other, and entire worlds burn to the laughter of thirsting gods. What we’re trying to say is, it’s the best it’s been in years – at least, if you’re one of the chosen servants of the Blood God. The World Eaters are slaughter incarnate, mass murderers and killers, they only want blood, driven forward by the mad rage of their demon primarch Angron, they scour the galaxy looking to spill blood for the blood god. if you want a faction that's all about getting close and killing with chain axes, these are your guys. CHAOS DEMONS  While there is no shortage of mortal servants of the dark gods, the Pantheon has their own armies beyond those of men and Chaos Space Marines. Chaos Daemons resemble their chosen God, from the smallest Nurgling, to the largest Bloodthirster. Chaos Daemons are typically hordes of lighter infantry supported by beasts and monstrous creatures. They're largely melee focused, with some shooting and psychic support. CHAOS KNIGHTS  The Imperium aren't the only ones with big, stompy robots! Similar to their Imperial counterparts, Chaos Knights take the same giant war machines, slap some spikey bits and new weapons on, and go to war. While they use the same chassis, they have a number of different options that help them play differently. They offer even more customization and kitbashing potential than their loyalist counterparts. Xenos  While Chaos is the threat from within, Xenos represent the threat from without. There are many alien races vying for control of the galaxy, and these represent some of the most exotic and strange armies of the 41st millennium. ORKS  Orks are, by their own admission, made for fightin’ and winnin’. the Orks, also known as the green tide, are a variety of warbands and klans fighting their way across the stars in their own respective WAAAAGH!s, each of which are halfway between a crusade and a pub crawl. With hordes of troops, ramshackle vehicles, and oodles of technology that really shouldn't work but still kind of does, Orks are an immensely fun army to paint, model, and play. These Orks are less Lord of the Rings, and more Mad Max. It is sad that were the Orks to unite, they could overrun the entire galaxy, but they have too much fun just fighting each other to ever do that. Orks are the closest 40K comes to a comic relief army, and as a result have a lot of fans both in this thread and the greater gaming community. Main Characers of Orks:- GHAZKULL MAG URUK THRAKA - the biggest and baddest ork of them all with a messianic mission of being Gork and Morks prophet Zodgrod Wortsnagga - Guy who likes Grots TYRANIDS  Tyranids are the main antagonists of 10th edition, they are bio-horror bugs who are invading the galaxy from the dark beyond with only one goal:- Eat everything alive. The Tyranids are rapacious alien swarms that emerge from the cold darkness of the intergalactic void. Guided by the unknowable intellect of the Hive Mind, these nightmarish super-predators hunt, kill, and feed without end, stripping world after world of biomass and leaving nothing but airless rocks in their wake. When the Tyranids make planetfall, a seemingly endless tide of Termagants spit vile living ammunition at hapless defenders, while writhing Ripper Swarms surge over the wounded and dead alike. These creatures are guided by intelligent Tyranid Warriors – vicious bioforms bristling with organic weapons – and a monstrous Hive Tyrant, the towering psychic lynchpin of the swarm’s advance. Tyranids are unique in that while they don't all have individual will, they do share a gestalt psychic consciousness. This psychic will power is spread through their synapse creatures which control the larger horde. They range in size from the small gaunts, which are roughly man-sized, to tank sized carnifexes all the way to monstrous bio-titans. The swarm’s only will is to kill and devour. If you like the Zerg from Starcraft or the bugs from Starship Troopers, you'll find something to like here. MAIN CHARACTERS:- - The hive mind - The bio Moon headed for earth Genestealer Cults  Ahead of the greater Tyranid hordes are the vanguard organisms that are genestealers. Genestealers begin by implanting their DNA in members of a planet's community, and then through a combination of psychic will and good old-fashioned propaganda, are able to take control of its people and start a Genestealer cult, a sort of doomsday cult awaiting the arrival of their “salvation” at the arrival of the great Tyranid swarm. With a combination of industrial equipment, looted military ordnance, and good old-fashioned Tyranid claws, Genestealer Cults are a subversive but fragile force which relies on sneak attacks and outflanking to accomplish its goals. They have a decidedly industrial aesthetic which provides a little-seen glimpse into day-to-day life in the Imperium. They work as a great support Force for Tyranids, and offer numerous modelling and converting opportunities due to their background. NECRONS  The Necrons are Ancient Undead Egyptian Dynasties who’s source of power is to torture the souls of the gods who once oppressed them. They were once an ancient race of humanoids called the Necrontir, cursed with a genetic deficiency that killed them with super-cancer that shortened their lifespan, they were tricked by a group of gods called the C’tan into giving up their bodies and allowing their souls to be encased in steel skeleton frames, unwittingly allowing themselves to be enslaved by their evil gods.However, Szarekh, the silent king led an uprising that destroyed the ct’an, shattering them into shards and now they’re tortured souls power the necrons, afterwards the necrons entomed themselves to sleep for millions of years, Necrons have been slumbering throughout the universe for millennia. Only recently have they awoken, and it is their goal to reconquer all that they lost in their sleep. Afflicted with an ancient curse, most Necrons are merely soulless automatons trapped in regenerating bodies of metal. Others have gone completely mad and seek to wear the skin of those they kill. Some still kept parts of their old personalities and are now eccentric and ambitious Warlords all. Armed with weapons that strip the matter from their target’s bones, and made of regenerating living metal, Necrons are a force to be reckoned with. In previous editions they were essentially mindless Terminator-esque automatons, but more recently they have been fleshed out to incorporate more personality and an Egyptian theme. Their standard silver scheme also lends itself to beginning painters and people who want an army done fast. Main Characters - Szarekh the silent king - Trazyn the Infinite - Orikan the Diviner TAU EMPIRE  “Ryu ga waga teki wo kurau!” Young, ambitious, and technologically-advanced, the Tau Empire is a recent contender for control of the galaxy. Their troops, while well armoured and heavily-armed, are not well trained for close combat, but are supported by their alien auxiliaries and the heavier firepower of their armoured units. Tau vehicles are typically fast hover tanks armed with heavy ordnance, but the real heart of a Tau force is in its battle suits. Ranging from single man Crisis suits all the way to monstrous Stormsurges and Supremacy armour, the Tau mount most of their best weapons on these bipedal war machines. Even still, they eschew close combat in favour of superior firepower, and are rare in that they have no psychic presence whatsoever. The Tau have a decidedly Eastern aesthetic, drawing heavily from Mecha anime like Robotech. Main Characters:- - The ethereal Caste - Commander Shadowsun - Commander Farsight - who leads a separate faction AELDARI  “I hear the song of the celestial heavens, and the music is cacophonous. It is strange but I find comfort in its dissonance. Righting the discord of the universal opus is what’s given my people purpose when, by all rights we as a race should have collapsed in upon ourselves. It is in such moments when species find their greatness or settle back into the muck that spawned them... For myself I have a purpose if only to correct one particular stray note in a symphony run amok. Win or lose, this battle is already my victory, my triumph. It is now fate which decides whether I am there to celebrate that fact or not.” Before mankind was young, the Aeldari were the rulers of the galaxy. However, their hedonistic society collapsed in on itself giving birth to Slaanesh, the Chaos god of excess. Since then the surviving Eldar have lived on floating craftworlds, vessels which blur the line between planet and spaceship. They live an ascetic lifestyle, singular in purpose, be it poetry or warfare. Their armies are made up of elite Aspect Warriors, specialized in one way of war, supported by ghostly Wraith constructs, powerful grav tanks, and some of the most devastating psykers in the universe. They provide a painter ample opportunity to test their skills on some incredibly detailed models, while also letting them paint a diverse variety of colors and uniforms within one army. The Eldar dominate the psychic phase typically, and their fragile nature and Powerful weaponry reward a skilled player. MAIN CHARACTERS:- - Eldrad Ulthwan - the most powerful of their sorcerers - Y'vraine - the lady who resurrected Guilliman and maybe is bringing back a new eldar god. DRUKHARI  Not simply Chaos Eldar, the Dark Eldar instead spread suffering and pain to feed She-who-thirsts, their name for Slaanesh. They do this not to serve the Prince of Excess, but to sate its hunger and keep it from devouring their own souls. For this purpose, the Dark Eldar typically capture slaves either for the sake of torturing them, or to fight in the gladiator arenas on Commorragh. They do this from the decks of their fast-moving Raiders and Venom skimmers, or on their Reaver jetbikes. The Haemonculi among the Dark Eldar are master fleshsmiths, capable of cloning fallen Dark Eldar warriors, or turning them into biological monstrosities such as the Wracks or Talos pain engines. By and large, the Dark Eldar are even more of a glass cannon and precision army than the regular Eldar, but without psychic powers to fall back on they rely more on speed. There's a real Hellraiser aesthetic here that makes them an ideal Army for horror fans. Main Characters:- - Asdrubael Vect who rules Commoragh HARLEQUINS Neither Craftworld Eldar, nor Dark Eldar, the harlequins are a bizarre and eccentric troupe of Eldar devoted to re-enacting the Legend of the Fall of the Eldar. They are Servants of the Laughing God, and dress in garish and colourful costumes that they wear to war. They see no distinction between performance and war, and they serve their God by performing on the battlefield. They are a specialised and fragile army, even among the Eldar. They reward a player with a distinct plan and a steady paintbrush. They are most often used alongside their Craftworld or Dark brethren as a supporting force. LEAGUES OF VOTANN  Rock and Stone! The Squats are back! And they’re here to take all of your resources, regardless if you like it or not. The leagues of Votann are a race that is essentially Dwarf-Clones who worship Giant AI computers as their gods and they live Equally with AI robots. They go forth looking for resources, they carry grudges, if you’re between them and a shiny rock they’ll kick your butt. Simple As. Main Characters:- - Ulthar the Destined Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Aug 4, 2023 |
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 Now onto the fun part! There has never ever been a better time to get into 40k, not only has the game reached a point where it can be considered ‘Good’, it has also been simplified (not simple) to a point where a fun 500 - 1000 point game can be finished in the same amount of time as a long game of Risk or Monopoly, of course setup might take a little bit but not much. GW has finally learned how to write for normal human beings, and not only that they’ve provided many pictures and diagrams for illiterates like me to understand. some things you should know:- - Ignore the people who claim that warhammer 40k is too complex. That is a reputation that is no longer the case, the game is no more or less complex than a macro version of X-com and a fighting game like street fighter (where each team has unique attributes and special moves) with a couple layers of tactics and strategy on top. If you can wrap your head around games like X-Com, Street Fighter and starcraft should be no problem for you. GW have Provided alot of low-investment entry points into the game and a simplified version of the game called ‘combat patrol’ exists to ease you into it! - All the core rules and unit datacards are available online for free and through the app! You can learn the rules without needing to buy the official rulebook unless you’re a collector of that sort of thing, the app though has all the core rules and the unit datasheets so I recommend downloading that as your reference or printing the rules from online. - The game has paid DLC in the form of Codexes, that are books that are sold that flesh out the lore and rules of your specific faction, but it’s optional. Just something to keep in mind. - DO NOT LEARN THE RULES FROM THE COMPUTER SCIENCE OR ENGINEER NERDS. THEY WILL CONFUSE YOU AND THEN GET MAD YOU DIDN'T IMMEDIATELY UNDERSTAND THE TERM PAPER THEY JUST SPAT AT YOU. IF YOU SEE ANY SIGN THAT THEY ARE FANS OF MAGIC THE GATHERING OR YU-GI-OH, DO NOT SHAKE THEIR HANDS, ASSUME ALPHA POSTURE, OPEN YOUR JACKET TO APPEAR BIGGER, WALK SLOWLY BACKWARDS OUT OF THE STORE. LEARN THE GAME FROM HUMANITIES AND ARTS MAJORS OR MILITARY PEOPLE, OR YOUTUBE CHANNELS. - remember to have fun! the game is just as much about talking and enjoying each others company as it is about winning! SO HOW DO I START? Step (1) get a normal measuring tape from your local hardware store. Step (2) Buy some dice! A healthy amount such as 40, split 20 between two players, if however you play Orks, buy more dice than you think you’ll ever need, something like 50 for you alone lol. Nice places to buy dice are any gaming store, be sure to buy dice that are easy to read and have fun picking colors for two people. I recommend Chessex:- Chessex Dice. 12mm Dice Block™ (36 Dice) https://www.chessex.com/12mm-dice-block-36-dice Step (3) Get some normal hobby pliers, super glue, a file and some acrylic paint sets. Your options are Citadel Paints , Vallejo Paints , Army Painter Paints. We will discuss details on painting in the next section. Step (4) buy a starter set:- Option (1) LEVIATHAN STARTER SETS BIG BOY 10th EDITION LAUNCH BOX  https://a.co/d/7XrXnYq If you want the most flexible and longest lasting and most value for your dollar, buy the big leviathan starter set, if will give you enough units for both 500 point combat patrols and 1000 point games for half the price they would be if you bought the units individually, take note, this is a special edition release that is only ONE PRINTING, once they’re gone, they’re gone and you’ll find them for a higher price on Ebay, luckily GW printed a bajillion of these, so you have more chances to find these than the previous special edition launch box. It includes all the cards, all the rules, the Leviathan Crusade book which is normally a separate release. NORMAL STARTER SETS:-  https://a.co/d/hHd5gy5  https://a.co/d/6Uizulh  https://a.co/d/5RW3uRP Option (2) Combat Patrols  Dont want to play space marines, want two different factions? Get a couple combat patrols for you and your friend! Buy any one of them! They’re ALL BALANCED AGAINST EACH OTHER, you dont need to worry about any of these boxes being ‘bad’ or ‘weak’ each other since GW has developed ‘Combat patrol’ to make things fair and fun no matter which one of these boxes you get! Think of this as a fighting game character select screen, get what looks cool to you and play! Combat Patrol Rules and Missions – Everything You Need to Play this Fresh New Mode - Warhammer Community Option (3) Boarding Patrols:-   This is another new mode that takes place inside of space ships, you can buy the terrain and accessories, however, the rulebooks are expensive (so find the rules online) and the actual box sets armies are limited prints Option (4) Kill Team:-  https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/kill-team-starter-set-2022-eng  https://a.co/d/5JgBTIP This is a cool different game that’s a squad based skirmish, but it’s what got me back into warhammer after 20 years so I feel emotionally obliged to include it. It’s a cool game though so look into it! It’s fast paced, alternating turns, and really has alot unit special abilities and reactions. It’s great! Step (5):- find a table or surface that’s 6 foot by 4 foot and a game mat. You can find mats online at amazon, GW, or any hobby website. Step (6):- get some terrain, this can be as cheap as books and styrofoam blocks, or you can buy custom made terrain from GW, Specialist hobby websites, or get a bunch of STL files from Etsy, Ebay and print them yourselves! The possibilities are endless! Step (7):- Gather your friends, Play and have fun!  In short, 40k is a turn based strategy game, played on a 6x4 map (smaller too if combat patrol), you select your map, your army list and deployment, and fight! your goal isnt just to kill as many of the enemy as you can, but to also accomplish tactical and strategic objectives that earn you victory points, these change depending on the type of mission you play, and the map, and the faction you play is. VICTORY POINTS ABOVE ALL ELSE, EVEN IF YOU LOSE ALL YOUR GUYS YOU CAN WIN IF YOU FOCUS ON YOUR TACTICAL AND AND STRATEGIC GOALS FOR VICTORY POINTS. ITS NEVER TOO LATE TO CLUTCH A WIN. FIGHT SMART. WIN. Playing 40k has never been easier to learn! The best way to get started is to play combat patrol then work your way to the full 40k experience! Here are the rules for the various game modes, all of which are OFFICIALLY AVAILABLE FOR FREE ONLINE! however take note that the paid DLC codex books form a very important part of the full game experience, so you'll have to shell out money (or find some other way wink wink) to access that expanded rules and lore to get the full blast experience. Here are some handy youtube videos to learn the game from:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3xJudBU2dw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFnTkjk025E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M2kHq4Z7-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksaWer8a52w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PWwvEM2DWU Here are some nice youtube channels you can watch to get a sense for how the game flows in general, they're nicely edited with lots of explosions! https://www.youtube.com/@tabletoptactics https://www.youtube.com/@PlayOnTabletop https://www.youtube.com/@DiceCheck NOW ONTO THE RULES! COMBAT PATROL https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/29/combat-patrol-rules-and-missions-everything-you-need-to-play-this-fresh-new-mode/ CORE RULES FOR WARHAMMER 40k https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/dLZIlatQJ3qOkGP7.pdf THE INDEX CARDS FOR ALL FACTIONS OFFICIALLY FOR FREE:- SPACE MARINES:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/uVN1M55L0U3dQeWZ.pdf https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/YC40Fxov5FhbXFRl.pdf https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/C6o7G0zjRSxCUvhK.pdf https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/u61I5H9K5r9oNsXZ.pdf https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/BcWghehxrgeCmkN8.pdf https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/D2jWk0bUnG9zY6Gb.pdf GREY KNIGHTS:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/4czxZwZf5cZCT7dk.pdf CUSTODES:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/TE5lPwmnUDrITuGM.pdf SISTERS OF BATTLE:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/riFjIh9OeKg6AbLZ.pdf ASTRA MILITARUM - IMPERIAL GUARD:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/xOjVS3Asx2QJ13lk.pdf MECHANICUS:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/vkzQ2IBbrrCVNzz3.pdf THE KNIGHTS (a.k.a Mechwarrior evangelions) https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/NRqB9dxmiQDjknNV.pdf IMPERIAL AGENTS (Inquisitors, Assasins, Arbites, Imperial Navy Breachers):- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Ozcq0k1WInJbmhZV.pdf CHAOS:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/csv0IuVvYQAndBJE.pdf https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/JhAjl9vv4BcigNO9.pdf https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/VdyiNhPdt8ehmIh6.pdf https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/2iVljh64k0hWMKsO.pdf https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/iiq5IN0DVsqWxFxh.pdf https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/5I1cNt3t71dfd3jh.pdf TYRANIDS:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/L8FE4F808oEwCq9T.pdf TYRANID GENESTEALER CULTS:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/BrBEfwS94zTuHrZq.pdf TAU:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/20OdtEKVLiE4H6Zo.pdf ORKS:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/EE2Pdickp8sNe1NX.pdf NECRONS:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/H5pO90rzYSAY6dHG.pdf VOTANN:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/YWdVWS6bgzMSMsNo.pdf AELDARI:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/kQ4OfkQB5G05ZNX4.pdf DRUKHARI:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/ARyMPKx2JXprseBC.pdf Each faction has unique playstyles strengths and weaknesses, take a look! it's in a book! se what you like and pick up a combat patrol box of it! WHATS THIS ABOUT POINTS?! Warhammer has mustering rules that you build your armies depending on pre-determined sizes using Points. think of them as having a limited about of money that you allocate to a battle and each unit costs a certain amount depending on how big and powerful they are. so for example if you fight a 1000 point battle you can only field an army whose points values total that amount. to read how many points your units cost please refer to the warhammer munitorim field manual, check it occasionally since they update the game with balance patches:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/agEmmZiw4tq7IOYE.pdf Warhammer has four main sizes:- Combat Patrol - 500 points (this is the combat patrol boxes that are balances against each other) Incursion - 1,000 Points Strike Force - 2,000 Points Onslaught - 3,000 Points the game size and time it takes to play increases by something like 30 minutes every time you move up a level. 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PART 3:- THE HOBBY AND THE COMMUNITY WHATS THIS ABOUT HOBBY?! Warhammer isnt just a fun strategy tabletop game, it’s also a craft hobby! You get to assemble and pain your minis to customize your own paint schemes and craft different combos for your miniatures (up to a point) The main steps to this is:- 1- Clip your pieces off of the sprues by following the build manuals 2- Glue your pieces together using superglue or plastic cement (warning plastic cement is permanent, no going back from it) 3- file and clip your pieces to remove mold lines and make additions 4- this is optional,but this is the point that some people customize their minis with added bits, sculpt using a material called ‘green stuff’ and customize their minis. 5- Use a Miniature Spray Paint Primer to prep your minis for painting. 6- Paint your minis with the paint scheme of your choice 7- Base your minis with materials that simulate the type of terrain you’re looking for. 8- Varnish your paint with a spray to solidify and finalize your paints against weathering. But the absolute #1 rule to painting is ALWAYS THIN YOUR PAINTS, DO NOT PAINT STRAIGHT FROM THE POT, YOUR RESULTS WILL LOOK A MILLION TIMES BETTER BY LAYERING MULTIPLE COATS OF THINNED PAINT WITHOUT LOSING ANY DETAILS. Here is a helpful guide to thinning your paints, PLEASE WATCH THIS ONE BEFORE YOU START PAINTING IT WILL SAVE YOU SO MUCH HEARTACHE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7hWnZycZxE&t=114s Here are Nice Youtube warhammer channels to learn the hobby from:- The official Warhammer Painting Guides:- https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEaPE4sLDA7vF6EaoNnvdh7SozU7cf1e4&si=_R0q1a_grvGyMbDL BrushStroke Painting Guides:- https://www.youtube.com/@BrushstrokePaintingGuides/videos Broadsword Wargaming https://www.youtube.com/@BroadswordWargaming The Painting Coach:- https://www.youtube.com/@ThePaintingCoach Duncan Rhodes https://www.youtube.com/@DuncanRhodesDRPA Squidmar miniatures https://www.youtube.com/@SquidmarMiniatures The Painting Phase:- https://www.youtube.com/@thepaintingphase/featured Goobertown Hobbies:- https://www.youtube.com/@GoobertownHobbies Zumiki Miniatures:- https://www.youtube.com/@Zumikito Places to go to find help for craft aspects of the game:- Somethingawful 3D printing thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3973815&pagenumber=1&perpage=40 Somethingawful Painting thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3705692 Goon-Reccomended stores to buy stuff from:- EBAY AMAZON ETSY Michigan Toy Soldier: good online store, 10% discount if you sign up an account Redgrass Games: awesome wet palletes The Magnet Baron: sells magnet kits for drat near every GW kit A-Case: magnet cases. pricey but great quality The Mighty Brush: awesome transfers Alpha Game Table: fold up 8x4' table for wargames Gamers Grass: awesome basing tufts and pre-made bases. Fun alien neon colors Tablewar: great for mats for wargames, also has nice carry cases, and a cool photo backdrop, the macromat! Oh also KR Multicases are great, and they used to sponsor the paint thread back in the day. heir UK equivalent is Navara Cases in this case. Then Rosemary & Co for really good brushes. While belonging more in the painting thread perhaps, WarColours Shop might be a fun addition if you're looking for different paints, with the highlight being the 94 nostalgia series. Also, free gravy during purchases. If people in the UK (or willing to deal with international shipping) are looking for bits resellers for conversion work then it's worth mentioning bitzbox.co.uk, bitsandkits.co.uk and forbiddengaming.co.uk, I've repeatedly used all three with no issues. If anyone can make similar recommendations for EU, NA, etc equivalents that would probably be a be useful addition too. https://www.greenstuffindustries.com/ is a good place for green stuff, tentacles rollers, and some other odds and ends. Note I haven't purchased from here yet but they come highly recommended by @modernsynthesist on Instagram who I very much trust to give good recs. Another UK offer is BitsMonster. For EU have Bitzarium (French), Bitzstore (French) and Bitsbay (Italian). Only shipped from the first one in the past so no idea about the second one. There is also Megabitzshop, but they don't ship to the EU, despite being based in Germany, due to tax issues. As for the US? You've got Hoard 'O Bits and that's it outside of Ebay stores. oining the eBay recommendations. window-box, now I guess called Blackdagger Games, has served me very reliably over the years: https://www.ebay.com/str/blackdaggergames I used to be able to get bits from Australia to Canada cheaper than from the US. Bitzgalaxy remains my favorite ebay bits store, though I haven't bought from them for a while. WHERE DO I FIND OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE INTO THIS GAME? Step one:- Go into the sunlight, find a friend and go to your local game shop, you’d be surprised how quickly you can assemble a gaming group by simply exposing people to the game! I come from Saudi Arabia, where the number of people who play warhammer can be counted on a single hand, but by inviting a friend out to a local card game store (sadly that means you’ll have to get in smelling distance of Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic the Gathering Players) and letting people see the game, I managed to develop a decent sized circle of friends who are into the game! If I can do it, so can you! Step two:- Go online and find them, find gamers in your town, in your next town, etc. and start building relationships! Step three:- Go online and find people around the world to share your love of the hobby with! Here are nice communities, podcasts and shows to get into to meet others through:- https://www.youtube.com/@thepoorhammerpodcast https://www.goonhammer.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@DiceCheck https://www.youtube.com/@Adeptusridiculous https://www.youtube.com/@tabletoptactics https://www.youtube.com/@TabletopTitans/videos https://www.youtube.com/@PlayOnTabletop https://www.youtube.com/@ChapterMasterValrak Twitch has some great artist and communities live streaming their hobby time under the Warhammer category. You can also find some decent live matches being streamed as well. https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Warhammer And so, the Emperors OP has been delivered, go forth have fun and slay the darkness! Or be the Darkness! Whatever suits your fancy! Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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After playing normal 40k i think honestly the turn structure as is is fine. Im gonna be honest, me and my friends like 40k more because it requires less papework to keep track of everything, kill team and normal 40k are the same overall time investment per game.
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rantmo posted:Sadly, I live in a one bedroom condo and there's just no room to set something like that up. That's why I'm trying to come up with a clever table topper option. Why dont you do what i did and go to game shops to play in, or use the floor, or find a friend who has more room.
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Hey guys, I finished part 2 of the OP, which is introducing people to the game itself, let me know what you think and if you want anything changed, the final part I will work on over the next few days is introducing people to the hobby aspects of the game and the community aspects.
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Verisimilidude posted:Anyone have any sellers of PLA/3D printed terrain they like? Looking to get a couple 4x4 tables going for combat patrol and some other games. These guys make incredible stuff and i painted some of them theyre great:- https://www.myminifactory.com/users/Sacrusmundus
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Have any of you actually joined or read up on 'The Bunker' warhammer club thing white dwarf is doing? I wonder whats that like
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Lol i just read online that the arbites exaction squad are point for pounds one of the best squads in the game, that rules, i cant wait to include them in my strike forces.
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Spanish Manlove posted:the kill team kroot box looks sick as hell though Can confirm they look super cool, easily some of my favourite minis looks wise super hyped to paint them
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Hey guys, I am working on the final section of the OP, the final section is about the hobby and how to make yourself a big-dick G warhammer dude, if you have any online stores or hobby shops or specific places you go to for all of your hobby needs or painting tutorials or anything like that it would save me some time. I am already going to put the following sites:- ebay, Etsy, Green Stuff World, and a couple places for 3D pringting STL's for custom scenery. I am going to recommend a bunch of youtube painting tutorials like Duncan rhodes and such. Also any community websites and places to find other warhammer fans. so if you have sites and channels you think should be in the OP let me know! Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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moths posted:Green Stuff World has a confirmed history of being dicks and it's extremely likely that they're also nazi dicks. oh drat I just ordered a bunch of magnet circle bases from them I had no idea sorry, I will make sure to not order for them again and keep them out of the OP.
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Ok I burned my package and now my house is gone, so are my dogs and cats. I think I'm clean now.
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What the hell kind of stupid rear end government makes postage between the united states and canada, two very intertwined economies, expensive?! that's insane!
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gently caress it, it was gonna happen anyways might as well bite the bullet of WH+
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Cooked Auto posted:Well, they've teased the next couple of WH+ minis. Ok no lie that guard from the art is super cool id definitely want that
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Athas posted:After a decade-long break, I'm trying to get back into 40k. I was never that deep into it in the first place, though. I have a few questions. lol I posted a giant OP about this...
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In a way we have all committed both financial and dignity seppuku by being into warhammer Ok now that i know points and munitorum stuff is missing from the OP i will add it 👍
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I managed to recruit two new people into the game today! gonna introduce them to combat patrol next weekend! 
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Virtual Russian posted:How are you finding Combat Patrol? it's absolutely fantastic as an entry point to the game, and it's super good as a way to introduce others to the game, once you know how to play combat patrol, the time it takes you to play 40k is shortened significantly because you now fully know how the game works. so far I have played 500 point games, one is combat patrol, one normal full blast 40k, to be honest, they are both equal in terms of time it takes to play, the only thing you learn is the extra special abilities of your factions, which is easier to understand once you learn the mechanics of the game itself in Combat patrol. I find the games are only like an hour and a half. I imagine once it gets to 1000 points I imagine it will be two hours. I think 4 hour games are for 2000 and 3000 point monstrosities. Also, I know people like to poo poo on the official app, but I have seen twice with people completely unfamiliar with the game that they genuinely appreciate being able to just look at their phone and click on the keyword or special ability on their unit datasheet and immediately have it explained to them without needing to flip pages. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Aug 20, 2023 |
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Devorum posted:I'm a long time player and I love Combat Patrol. It's so easy to just bang out a game with minimal fuss, and it's a great intro to the hobby. It's also nice for trying out other factions without a large buy-in. I've got Thousand Sons, Votann, Space Marines and Necrons and I just picked up Orks, Aeldari, and Dark Angels. Im trying to use it but i cant find the combat patrol section, it defaults to 1000 points only where is it?
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new space marine painted, I think I'm improving, sadly my lighting setup is a little too bright so I'm gonna have to come up with a solution soon, gonna put on a decal later when I print them. what do you guys think? my first one is on the right and the new one is on the left.     
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The cities of sigmar stuff looks cool because it reminds me of the brettonian peasant pikemen
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LOL Warhammer+ tv shows arent available in my region, they're region locked, holy poo poo what a bunch of bozos, thank goodness they warned me before I subscribed get hosed GW I'm not paying for your poo poo service if I'm not getting what I pay for. Also cool incentive to get people outside of the US and some EU countries to subscribe if they're not allowed to use half of the service. idiots.
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Cooked Auto posted:But they're trying very hard at it. Technically i can subscribe to white dwarf but it would cost me 160 dollars a year to do so lol. They really ought to make digital releases of that magazine
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The only part of assembling a genuinely hate is the superglue, having to hold the pieces together for a minute or two sucks. Thank goodness the termagaunts that came in the leviathan box were push fit i wouldve died by nowS Also i really wish they would label the bases sizes, the difference between 25 and 28 is so miniscule ive had several times i accidentally mixed them up
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Weird Pumpkin posted:
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Weird Pumpkin posted:How do you tell how many points a given model/unit is? Here are the points for all factions https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/agEmmZiw4tq7IOYE.pdf
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sorry if this will make me sound very stupid, but what is the specific benefit that I get out of codexes if the datasheets and rules are available for free? I'm super excited for the Tyranids codex but I've never bought any codex before in my life so I dont know what they get me.
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Currently my tyranid force is whats in the leviathan box plus a boarding patrol which includes six warriors, genestealers and a broodlord, what sort of detachment would that be i wonder...
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I think for me I dont plan on going for a single big army, since I'm essentially single-handedly starting my local scene once I'm done painting what I have in the long term I will buy combat patrols of different factions and work my way towards having 1000 points of different factions so me and the people I play with have variety.
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The Deleter posted:I wouldn't count any of the tedious screeds you post as clever or interesting so don't start patting yourself on the back yet. Kitchner posted:Sure, but then again you clearly find counting hard. Abbadon looking through the window: "yes... hahaha... YESSS"
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Jack B Nimble posted:Except, you know, your hero cost several hundred dollars and months of hobby work. Lol are we talking about videogames or warhammer?
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Finished the final section of the OP, I added a section about points to the previous section, let me know if there's anything you want me to change or add that's missing or simply complain about me not having something already in there several weeks from now lol. now to move on to painting and kicking butt!
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Wow this video with john blanche is awesome:- https://youtu.be/NCOSao1KEQo?si=4sA18lbDZls1PLDp The famous 3rd edition box art took him three months to make!! Wow!
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Once thing ive learned in life is that playing with people who are expert competitive level people who cant switch that part of their brain off is one of the most unfun experiences in life and is the reason why i will never touch Yu-Gi-Oh or MTG ever again.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I think it depends. I've never been a hyper competitive 40k player (frankly, I don't think the ruleset is suitable for that kind of play) but I do play Malifaux very competitively. Because skirmish games have lower model counts, when I am traveling to a Malifaux event I pack three different crews in my case. One is super tuned and hyper-competitive, one is a very middle-of-the-road option, and one is weak and kinda wacky. Picking the right crew for the opponent puts me in the right mindset to have a fun game no matter who I'm across from. yes the difference is that you're a well adjusted person capable of showing some level of flexibility, the people who introduced me to card games were ultra-nerds who couldnt turn it off and beat me so mercilessly and thoroughly they turned me off of the game completely without making a bare minimum effort to teach me properly how to play the game or allow me more than one draw before vaporizing me with their ultra chain card flip attacks
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