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All Too Much For Me posted:Back when rss (actually let's save that) was a thing, you'd find interesting titles, and the content would just be a two hour podcast. I've recently gotten back into RSS and it's an underappreciated gem. You can make something approximating a news aggregator or cobble together a usenet-like experience using various clients tuned to those experiences, pulling content from little nooks and crannies of the internet that might be a little slow to visit individually but together they provide steady content from tight little communities that are actually pretty good. There's probably additional utility that I haven't even thought of Podcasts are good but the influencer culture that dominates them are bad. Blogging was overrun with the same assholes and now most people who bother to actually blog their thoughts anymore are pretty good when you can find them. Fark has managed to stay consistent over the years. I can't say I go there regularly but whatever it was worth in 2005 it's the same today. Someone recently got me into soulseek and it's acceptable. I visited a totse spinoff recently and while I can't say it was a cuddly PC experience it's managed to achieve early internet style free speech with all it's warts and glory without just being a place for chuds and pedos to advertise their ideologies in bad faith.
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That’s a really good idea with the RSS feeds thankin ye kindly. And yeah Soulseek was da absolute bomb back in the day
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All Too Much For Me posted:Back when rss (actually let's save that) was a thing, you'd find interesting titles, and the content would just be a two hour podcast. Or someone will ask a question online and someone else will post a link saying "yeah they talk about this on episode 37 of Look At My Navel" and then it's 2 hours of talking about random poo poo with 30 seconds buried somewhere in the middle where they tangentially address whatever information you were looking for. If there's a transcript that I can just ctrl+f then yeah woo podcasts whatever but since most podcasts are three people talking over each other they usually don't have transcripts.
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many things that are "illegal" due to "copyright infringement" or "intellectual property" "theft"
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Professor Wayne posted:zombo.com this. also one good thing about epic buying bandcamp is someone recently hosed something up on the app and i was able to download a few albums that artists had removed years ago. 
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Most things built before 2010. There are some services that are pretty cool. Discord is a good service, even if it's front end is pathetic. But if someone wanted to just hard reset the Internet, I'd be down.
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if you think about it , discord is just a prettier IRC with more data scraping
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Some of the porn maybe. Maybe some of the other porn too Also lovely 90s webcomics that refuse to die, they don't bother anyone.
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Discord is fine for what it is but people seem very determined to make it into a lot of things it isn't.
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Visually Discord is an abomination. It looks like the emoji movie vomited on my screen.
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There's lots of cool stuff on the internet OP (:
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there's a lot about youtube that's toxic, but it's also full of a ton of extremely talented musicians and artists and cooks and makers of all kinds of stuff etc. that would never have the opportunity to have an audience without it. plus it's just a great archive of all kinds of weird and funny and interesting videos about all kinds of poo poo. so i think there's a lot of content on there that's worth salvaging, even if there are also a lot of bad things about the site
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All Too Much For Me posted:i thought this was sufficiently unsubtle to pass as sarcasm, but as "podcasts" and "generative ai images" are on the save list I guess not Leading with podcasts is weird. They're just radio shows you can play whenever you want. There are lovely ones, but that's not a problem with the format.
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there are all kinds of podcasts about all kinds of interesting topics and of course there's a whole side of podcasting that's fictional stories and cool experimental audio stuff. but unfortunately joe rogan has poisoned the general public's minds into thinking a "podcast" is a specific genre of audio in which a loud men yell misinformation at each other
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Oh yeah I like YouTube in general for sure, it’s just a shame it’s algorithm is so sneakily manipulative of peoples minds and also how people have to pander to it to be seen at all. What can ya do tho it’s definitely not as evil as Facebook etc if you ask me
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Earwicker posted:there are all kinds of podcasts about all kinds of interesting topics and of course there's a whole side of podcasting that's fictional stories and cool experimental audio stuff. but unfortunately joe rogan has poisoned the general public's minds into thinking a "podcast" is a specific genre of audio in which a loud men yell misinformation at each other
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Most things built before 2010. Around 2010 was definitely the high point for Web 2.0. We'd already lost a bunch of good web 1.0 and pre eternal september parts of the internet and I could definitely remember mourning those the same way we're doing now but Google was really getting things right. Facebook wasn't awful. There were a bunch of free speech zones set up that weren't yet exclusively pedo/chud cultural exchanges. I wasn't a regular reddit or 4chan user but I remember popping in and having fun without being angry or depressed. Standards like XMPP and RSS were getting put to good use. Netflix was the streaming service. IRC was in decline but still fairly active and decently high quality. Trolls were extremely funny. The Android app store was full of little projects that were free, useful, and surprisingly spyware free when you decompiled them. If you were a developer so many things would just be free for you, I remember running so much telephony stuff on a service called tropo and I could provision 800 numbers and run things on it without spending a penny. It's like someone flipped a switch and said "ok now let's start making things lovely" Now it seems like you have to seek out whatever was ignored and left alone and forgotten about and if you have the patience to find them there's still good people there like in the 90s and 00s, if you pick apart the technology and have the patience to glue together all the little broken pieces you can have a comfy digital life. At least it seems to be a growing sentiment. Internet Old One fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Minotaurus Rex posted:Oh yeah I like YouTube in general for sure, it’s just a shame it’s algorithm is so sneakily manipulative of peoples minds and also how people have to pander to it to be seen at all. What can ya do tho it’s definitely not as evil as Facebook etc if you ask me From what I understand, if you clear your watch history, it will reset the algorithm, though I could be oversimplifying things. I’d read recently that YouTube will require watch history to be enabled if you want videos to be recommended (which seems like an argument to disable it imo). My beef with YouTube is their desperate need to sanitize so much content, which has resulted in some of the best history channels (e.g., TimeGhost and WW2) having videos demonetized or censored. Also, watching LA Beast puke at the end of some of his challenges was the funniest part and now that’s gone t 
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Podcasts are on the edge on enshittification I'm afraid. With Spotify, Amazon, NYT, and others attempting to buy them up and place them in their own isolated ecosystems, it's only a matter of time before every podcast that isn't a single person in a bedroom is either starved of sponsors or bought up.
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good content is made by real people for fun it then gets popular which shares the fun with lots of people money then says “what if we just stop doing all that” and limits and monetizes until everything collapses and the cycle begins anew
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Triikan posted:Podcasts are on the edge on enshittification I'm afraid. With Spotify, Amazon, NYT, and others attempting to buy them up and place them in their own isolated ecosystems, it's only a matter of time before every podcast that isn't a single person in a bedroom is either starved of sponsors or bought up. Before sponsors and things people were "podcasting" with Realaudio and various other sound formats. Some of them were really good too. These days it'd get harder and harder to find anyone like that. I think a big part of enshittification is assuming that we won't have more than enough internet content if nobody is getting paid for it. We'd just have a whole lot less.
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naem posted:good content is made by real people for fun i mean yes, but also the ideal situation is that somewhere in there the real people who make good content for fun get enough money to make good content for a living. it often gets all hosed up of course, and in many cases taken away from the people who made it in the first place. but not always, and i dont think the idea of people making good content "just for fun" is sustainable either
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Has anybody said goatse yet? The original URL is long gone, unfortunately, but the image should at least be preserved because of its cultural significance.
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timecube and the immortality rings websites
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root beer posted:From what I understand, if you clear your watch history, it will reset the algorithm, though I could be oversimplifying things. I’d read recently that YouTube will require watch history to be enabled if you want videos to be recommended (which seems like an argument to disable it imo). Hmm my watch history is always disabled on principle but I like/sub/add a lot of stuff to playlists so it still recs things it thinks are relevant (but its mostly algo optimised shite). I don’t get how I could have so much stuff I reckon is high quality on my liked list as well as playlisted and yet have such generic and bland recs but there we are. Fuckin’ lovely lovely algorithms Minotaurus Rex fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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 This must be preserved for future generations
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Bad Purchase posted:timecube and the immortality rings websites I never got my immortality ring. My account and a bunch of others got banned for invalid referrals or some such thing.
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The current internet is actually pretty amazing. I can find a video of somebody who has a broken Samsung X10957 washer and learn how to fix it. I can find information about basically anything technical and ask a question of somebody who knows what they're doing. I can order a part from the states and get it in 2 days. The internet is one of the most powerful tools and insidious time wasters ever created. Social media sucks but whatever, don't use it too much. People who think the old 90's or early 2000's internet was better don't remember what it was like aside from the wild west vibes. I mean it was great for video game stuff and filez but it had very little of actual use on it. Not to mention the fact that posting CSAM was considered a hilarious joke.
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You're literally describing social media with that story
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Tarkus posted:The current internet is actually pretty amazing. I can find a video of somebody who has a broken Samsung X10957 washer and learn how to fix it. I can find information about basically anything technical and ask a question of somebody who knows what they're doing. I can order a part from the states and get it in 2 days. The internet is one of the most powerful tools and insidious time wasters ever created. Social media sucks but whatever, don't use it too much. You could do all of those things a long time ago.
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Minotaurus Rex posted:Inspired by the enshittification thread and considering most of the net is now either outright evil like social media or poo poo beyond belief I was wondering joe rogan gouge small time publishers that rely on them and is mid enshitification see above x2 the only thing thats good on the internet is being like how do i do x then you google it and find a youtube video of an indian dude explaining how to do it in < 5mins with no intro outro bullshit.
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The Moon Monster posted:Leading with podcasts is weird. They're just radio shows you can play whenever you want. There are lovely ones, but that's not a problem with the format. Tarkus posted:The current internet is actually pretty amazing. I can find a video of somebody who has a broken Samsung X10957 washer and learn how to fix it. I can find information about basically anything technical and ask a question of somebody who knows what they're doing. I can order a part from the states and get it in 2 days. the enshittification is that the medium makes it harder to extract the information you need, be it a video or a podcast. we had webpages with content, but adverts meant the lede gets buried so you see the ads. but people use adblockers so now your twenty second fix has been padded into ten minutes of drivel so it's monetisable loving wonderful 
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snergle posted:gouge small time publishers that rely on them and is mid enshitification How is steam mid enshittification? What do you think it’ll look like fully shat up?
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A full 0.3% of youtube is worth keeping.
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BeastOfTheEdelwood posted:Has anybody said goatse yet? Don't worry, my 14yo and their friends are VERY aware of goatse. It's still around.
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