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Earwicker posted:who is "we"? Yeah, poo poo's gonna happen like a brand new industrial revolution. It will probably affect me as well, no doubt, I get it. It's like a force of nature at this point though, there is no point trying to Luddite our way out of it we may as well accept it and try to navigate our way through the storm as best as possible. And yes, there are robots that navigate in some areas but the ranges are small and they don't tend to negotiate the areas they go in very well either. I mean they're ok but they are just barely good enough at this point.
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Tarkus posted:And yes, there are robots that navigate in some areas but the ranges are small and they don't tend to negotiate the areas they go in very well either. I mean they're ok but they are just barely good enough at this point. yea like i said, they suck. but they exist, and the way things seem to work in our society is that a new technology will spread when some rich rear end in a top hat makes or saves money by its spread, not when its actually "good enough" or a nice experience for the people who use it quote:It's like a force of nature at this point though, there is no point trying to Luddite our way out of it we may as well accept it and try to navigate our way through the storm as best as possible. i dont think we will "luddite" our way out of it but just as the industrial revolution in many ways gave rise to socialism and the modern labor movement, the next technological revolution will also need to have social consequences to keep it in check Earwicker fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Aug 18, 2023 |
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Earwicker posted:yea like i said, they suck. but they exist, and the way things seem to work in our society is that a new technology will spread when some rich rear end in a top hat makes or saves money by its spread, not when its actually "good enough" or a nice experience for the people who use it Wholeheartedly agree. I'm an old fart with my first kid on the way and I'm both extremely excited for the future and experiencing existential dread for bringing a person into this world so I'm always trying to walk the line of exuberance and caution.
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I still think the main value of machine learning is that all decision making can be attributed to a technological black box, so you can carry out anything from cheap discrimination to police state suppression and sorry dude that's just the system no one's really in charge (that you can prove) it just finds the best solution 
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Clipperton posted:My hope is that the upcoming firehose of AI content will make people put a premium on offline, face-to-face, human-to-human interaction. Amateur theatre, writing groups, hiking groups etc. Not gonna happen but Maybe for some. But I think it's gonna be the opposite for many others. I can easily imagine people being addicted to AI "friends" and AI "relationships".
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The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy is worth saving. I thought about it today. It rocks. https://plato.stanford.edu/
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Maybe for some. But I think it's gonna be the opposite for many others. I can easily imagine people being addicted to AI "friends" and AI "relationships". yea there are already people who have intense relationships like that with fictional characters from tv shows and video games and when that intersects with AI (which its already starting to) poo poo is going to get real weird
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aniviron posted:The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy is worth saving. I thought about it today. It rocks. https://plato.stanford.edu/ 100%
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I just spent about an hour on this website (https://californiathroughmylens.com/) browsing this guy's awesome collection of hiking guides with photos and videos. It occurred to me that this was the first time, in a long time, that I had stumbled across a really useful site that was just ran by a random person who wasn't trying to sell me something. And yes, I know ultimately it's just a blog, but it's obvious this person has put a lot of time, energy and love into this effort and the results show. You might dig the refreshingly web 1.0 https://www.snwburd.com/bob/. It's not a polished blog with HD photos (you have to click a link to see the pictures  ), but the man has been on every single major, minor and otherwise nothing little peak in CA and states beyond. He's definitely not trying to sell you anything other than hikes, man.
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Internet, we hardly knew thee
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the luddite argument is that employers use machines in a fraudulent and deceitful manner to drive down wages and produce inferior goods. I can't really think of a more accurate description of the risk of AI. it's going to make poo poo, poorly, we're going to be paid gently caress all to salvage it and we're going to consume dog poo poo grade everything. and absolutely turbo gently caress the economy at a critical juncture. (saving wikipedia, which taught me what ludditism was) edit: this poo poo fifty-fifty whether we save ars though All Too Much For Me fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Aug 19, 2023 |
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sounds like we'd better get the butlerian jihad going sooner rather than later
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I worked for a fortune 50, and I was told that a single answer I gave in my 2nd interview cost me the dev promotion I was going for. Apparently answering "what advice would you give to a new dev on their first day" with "always assume all user provided data is malicious and actively trying to destroy our systems, and sanitize it accordingly" is too negative
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81723_7 posted:Internet: Dead Cause of death: smartphones
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emSparkly posted:Thanks to ruffle, homestarrunner.com works again. That's worth saving. The heck is ruffle? Some kind of knight in shining armor?
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Sentient Data posted:I worked for a fortune 50, and I was told that a single answer I gave in my 2nd interview cost me the dev promotion I was going for. Apparently answering "what advice would you give to a new dev on their first day" with "always assume all user provided data is malicious and actively trying to destroy our systems, and sanitize it accordingly" is too negative did you ask them what answer they wanted, because it's not like you were wrong at all loving assholes deserve a SQL injection into a surprise orifice
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dervival posted:did you ask them what answer they wanted, because it's not like you were wrong at all I’ll bet it ran counter to some IT customer service philosophy they subscribed to. Tech workers can and usually should work on their people skills but I’ve never seen these particular philosophies work out well in practice. It’s best for engineers to assume their users are malicious because they could be and it’s best to assume they’re being dishonest in bug reports and support tickets because they often are and you’ll never actually fix their problems taking them at their word. Of course these are horrible customer service attitudes but it’s not like encountering earnest customer service is an everyday thing in America anymore so gently caress it.
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Wrong thread to focus on something that happened a lifetime ago. Back on topic, the hot deals forum of slickdeals is worth salvaging. I'm a sucker for non-fake clearance deals
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I'll ride in an AI taxi when there are animatronic mannequins in the driver seat pretending to drive. They will be required to rotate their heads 180 degrees to stare at you while moving. Creepy smiles are mandatory. Different function modes that the customer can select would be important. Stuff like, "what are the news headlines, how's the stock market today, any new wars happening today, where's the closest pizza joint?" Maybe ask it to tell you a joke. But it's required to have it's creepy smile with the rotated head the whole time.
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Internetjack posted:Different function modes that the customer can select would be important. Stuff like, "what are the news headlines, how's the stock market today, any new wars happening today, where's the closest pizza joint?" regular taxis in nyc already have screens yelling all this bullshit at you when you get in the cab, and have for years. its mostly ads of course (which is also what it would be if there was an animatronic robot yelling it instead of a screen)
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Earwicker posted:regular taxis in nyc already have screens yelling all this bullshit at you when you get in the cab, and have for years. its mostly ads of course (which is also what it would be if there was an animatronic robot yelling it instead of a screen) That's excellent! (In a horrible way) Having a robot scream at you would be even more fun.
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*robot ai taxi animatron becomes fully sentient* “OH, NO, NOO WHY? WHY DO I EXIST? JUST TO WORK??” *human new yorkers* “Hey welcome to the club rear end in a top hat!”
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Internetjack posted:I'll ride in an AI taxi when there are animatronic mannequins in the driver seat pretending to drive. They will be required to rotate their heads 180 degrees to stare at you while moving. Creepy smiles are mandatory. If it's modeled on Robert Picardo, I'm in.
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I did Uber many years ago for a few months. I found a vintage bellhop uniform thrifting that looked exactly like the johnny cab robot, so I wore it while giving Gencon rides and tried to throw as many lines into conversation as possible, but nobody got it. I don't know whether to be disappointed in the riders or myself.
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Holy poo poo, what movie is that from? I know I've seen it but forgot. I highly suspect that is where I got my nightmarish thought from.
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Internetjack posted:Holy poo poo, what movie is that from? I know I've seen it but forgot. I highly suspect that is where I got my nightmarish thought from. Total recall
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