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Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
pork is safe from H5N1 right?

time for pig milk to make its big debut

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The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

dxt posted:

nevermind, went to go pickup at CVS and they wanted a $364 copay. We have the tools!

god drat

Steve Yun posted:

pork is safe from H5N1 right?

time for pig milk to make its big debut

pilk, whooaaaaAAAaa pilk

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Steve Yun posted:

pork is safe from H5N1 right?

time for pig milk to make its big debut

I read somewhere that the farmers are also feeding chicken poo poo to pigs too so ... ehhhHHHHH

Baddog
May 12, 2001
Well it definitely wasn't free pax anymore when it got sent to my regular pharmacy. Just my normal copay tho, not too bad I guess.

Insanite
Aug 30, 2005

Baddog posted:

Well it definitely wasn't free pax anymore when it got sent to my regular pharmacy. Just my normal copay tho, not too bad I guess.

give your insurance time

soon, it’s going to be pax forbidden without step therapy, the step being idk dying or something

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
Two psychiatrist letters, including one from whom you've have a 6+ month relationship with to prove your obvious mental illness about thinking covid is a problem can only be resolved by letting you have pax.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



dxt posted:

nevermind, went to go pickup at CVS and they wanted a $364 copay. We have the tools!

Just save a dollar a day for a year and it's covered, plus at the end of the year you'll have enough left over to buy a couple of penny candies.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Shiroc posted:

Two psychiatrist letters, including one from whom you've have a 6+ month relationship with to prove your obvious mental illness about thinking covid is a problem can only be resolved by letting you have pax.

The freaking doomers in C-SPAM think that they know better than WPATH WPAX!

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



dxt posted:

nevermind, went to go pickup at CVS and they wanted a $364 copay. We have the tools!

that is 6.6 cases of surgical Auras on amazon. 2912 masks is about 8 years of masks at 1/day.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022

Why Am I So Tired posted:

Has anyone tried to use the updated COVID therapeutics locator?

https://treatments.hhs.gov/

I've tried it on a few devices, if you search for Paxlovid you just get a blank map lol

my jaw is just hanging open

the sheer quality of it all

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

Now that we can't get paxlovid through legimate ways, the next step is to find somebody in India and have them smuggle generic paxlovid overseas

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

https://twitter.com/pokeythepenguin/status/1392979006648115217

Cabbages and Kings
Aug 25, 2004


Shall we be trotting home again?
If you're lucky enough to have doctors that don't suck and don't lie to you, then maybe you get to have exciting conversations like the one I just had with our childs' doctor at their annual checkup.

The context I set was that kiddo has missed 18 days of school and I know for a fact that I myself have had fever ~>100F 40 times this year, and that it's been worrying and disruptive and makes me wonder if there's any value in seeing a specialist even if expensive / out of state. This isn't verbatim but lots of the phrasing is:

"I believe that what we're seeing with you and your child isn't an individual problem, it's part of a broader community problem we see locally and nationally of children and adults getting sick more frequently, for longer. If you wish to pursue any kind of specialized care for yourself or your child, now or in the future, and have located any specialists you feel might be helpful, we will be happy to sign whatever referrals. But, I can tell you, the sorts of cases I'm familiar with where we have ourselves encouraged those referrals, look very different than what you're experiencing, which is largely in line with what we see in the community at large. Therefore, I don't think it's very likely that any specialists I am aware of, would have anything to offer".

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

What. Are they saying "yep, everyone is getting sick, but since everyone is sick that's now normal so we're not going to do anything"?

Lmao

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
Jon Snow sampling the sewer water from the Broad Street Pump, shrugging, and saying "well, this is what everyone's been drinking, nothing to be done."

Cabbages and Kings
Aug 25, 2004


Shall we be trotting home again?

NeonPunk posted:

What. Are they saying "yep, everyone is getting sick, but since everyone is sick that's now normal so we're not going to do anything"?

Lmao

I read it a lot more as "everyone is getting sick but we don't know why and I'm not aware of anyone that's going to give you more useful information at any price point". It felt pretty black-pilled to me.

I pointed out that back in early 2020 I was reading causes for concern from credentialed immunlogists that COVID appeared to pose a unique risk of immune system damage and that it feels to me like we're seeing the results of that; she gave me a somewhat haunted look at said absolutely nothing to try to dissuade me or make me feel like I was saying anything extreme.

So -- what can someone in that position do for me? They're a pediatrician in a small town, they're seeing all the same stuff we are (and then some, I would imagine, it's not that small a town and it was clear that they'd personally made long COVID clinic referrals).

There's a lot of things and individuals to be enraged at but I don't have anything but respect and gratitude (and sympathy) for most of the local healthcare I encounter.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

I dare you to call it a perm again..

Cabbages and Kings posted:

If you're lucky enough to have doctors that don't suck and don't lie to you, then maybe you get to have exciting conversations like the one I just had with our childs' doctor at their annual checkup.

The context I set was that kiddo has missed 18 days of school and I know for a fact that I myself have had fever ~>100F 40 times this year, and that it's been worrying and disruptive and makes me wonder if there's any value in seeing a specialist even if expensive / out of state. This isn't verbatim but lots of the phrasing is:

"I believe that what we're seeing with you and your child isn't an individual problem, it's part of a broader community problem we see locally and nationally of children and adults getting sick more frequently, for longer. If you wish to pursue any kind of specialized care for yourself or your child, now or in the future, and have located any specialists you feel might be helpful, we will be happy to sign whatever referrals. But, I can tell you, the sorts of cases I'm familiar with where we have ourselves encouraged those referrals, look very different than what you're experiencing, which is largely in line with what we see in the community at large. Therefore, I don't think it's very likely that any specialists I am aware of, would have anything to offer".

Gas, fully lit

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
Tbh they're not really telling us anything surprising, that there is no treatment for the immune system damage of long covid. The other option is you see a specialist and they charge you hundreds of dollars for counseling on handwashing and a High C prescription

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
https://i.imgur.com/0Ske863.mp4

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


RandomBlue posted:

Why does population have to be growing forever? That seems dumb as gently caress if you think about it at all.

Otherwise the inferior races that do keep growing in population will outnumber us too keenly and we will be eradicated-- uhh, whoops, read off the wrong card

Cabbages and Kings
Aug 25, 2004


Shall we be trotting home again?

Psycho Society posted:

Tbh they're not really telling us anything surprising, that there is no treatment for the immune system damage of long covid. The other option is you see a specialist and they charge you hundreds of dollars for counseling on handwashing and a High C prescription

I completely agree. I don't think there's anything better that any local-level medical provider or other person can do, and the statement that our sickness looks "different" than the people they are pushing to refer is a reflection of the severity/complexity of those cases, not a reflection that what's going on with everyone else is okay.

I was not being sarcastic when I said I thought I was getting good information from reasonable people; there's pretty hard limits to what they will allow themselves to say on the clock but I know my PCP well enough socially to know he doesn't think I am a kook and is basically just trying to provide the best medical care he can to the people who show up to see him, given the realities of the world we're in.

During this recent visit I referred to the current state of affairs as "our current plague-riddled hellscape" and that didn't even raise an eyebrow. These people are used to me being vitriolic but also I've been in there enough and had enough contact with them to have a pretty good idea where they stand.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

I don't expect doctors to refer for the diagnosis of "looks like your immune system got imploded by the second-order effects of social collapse" but I do expect them to give actionable advice (like wearing a mask) since that's an individual intervention that is cheap, accessible, and effective.

dxt
Mar 27, 2004
METAL DISCHARGE

The Oldest Man posted:

I don't expect doctors to refer for the diagnosis of "looks like your immune system got imploded by the second-order effects of social collapse" but I do expect them to give actionable advice (like wearing a mask) since that's an individual intervention that is cheap, accessible, and effective.

That's a lockdown and will lead to immunity debt.

Cabbages and Kings
Aug 25, 2004


Shall we be trotting home again?

The Oldest Man posted:

I don't expect doctors to refer for the diagnosis of "looks like your immune system got imploded by the second-order effects of social collapse" but I do expect them to give actionable advice (like wearing a mask) since that's an individual intervention that is cheap, accessible, and effective.

:hmmyes: I'd already made it clear that we have those conversations and it would vastly be my preference that kiddo mask at school, but there's only 2-3 kids out of ~120 that do and she is socially uncomfortable enough about it and already with a fairly small friend group, that it doesn't seem useful to me to push it :shrug:

If she doesn't actually want to do it then she's not going to care about doing it well enough to make a difference. The only real alternative I see is homeschooling. I had also already told the doc about everything we've done to soup up air filtration in the house, separate sleeping arrangements during any illness, etc. She may give other people basic lectures on PPE, I am unsure, my starting point was "we have 2 corsi cubes at home and I am contacts with the guy who built the ones the school uses".

e: and this poo poo does work to some extent, in that, during 2023-2024 there have been illnesses one kid got and not anyone else, or one kid and I got and no one else did; in 2022-2023 it was more or less whole house sickness every time. Masks work, isolation works, air exchange works. But every day is a barrage of exposure.

Cabbages and Kings has issued a correction as of 17:40 on Apr 16, 2024

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

The medical establishment cannot in good faith recommend wearing a mask as they never did a RCT to validate the medical benefits of it.

We just don't know anything and we don't want to find out

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Cabbages and Kings posted:

:hmmyes: I'd already made it clear that we have those conversations and it would vastly be my preference that kiddo mask at school, but there's only 2-3 kids out of ~120 that do and she is socially uncomfortable enough about it and already with a fairly small friend group, that it doesn't seem useful to me to push it :shrug:

If she doesn't actually want to do it then she's not going to care about doing it well enough to make a difference. The only real alternative I see is homeschooling. I had also already told the doc about everything we've done to soup up air filtration in the house, separate sleeping arrangements during any illness, etc. She may give other people basic lectures on PPE, I am unsure, my starting point was "we have 2 corsi cubes at home and I am contacts with the guy who built the ones the school uses".

I'm not saying it's easy, the individual, to do the intervention. Not all individuals with access to an intervention are ever going to do it, and they may well choose not to and suffer as a result. Doctors have a limited amount of influence on whether the interventions an individual can do actually get done. There are many hellworld-related reasons why those things that are on the shelf might not get used.

However, reminding people of the available interventions to protect and improve health is literally the first and highest job of primary care medicine. Doctors not doing that with masks is as much a dereliction of duty as a doctor not telling someone with type-2 diabetes to watch the sugar intake carefully, or not reminding guys in their 30s to start fibermaxing before they get rear end cancer, or not reminding a parent about their kids' childhood vaccination schedules.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

The Oldest Man posted:

I'm not saying it's easy, the individual, to do the intervention. Not all individuals with access to an intervention are ever going to do it, and they may well choose not to and suffer as a result. Doctors have a limited amount of influence on whether the interventions an individual can do actually get done. There are many hellworld-related reasons why those things that are on the shelf might not get used.

However, reminding people of the available interventions to protect and improve health is literally the first and highest job of primary care medicine. Doctors not doing that with masks is as much a dereliction of duty as a doctor not telling someone with type-2 diabetes to watch the sugar intake carefully, or not reminding guys in their 30s to start fibermaxing before they get rear end cancer, or not reminding a parent about their kids' childhood vaccination schedules.

my doctor usually talks to me for seven or eight minutes and then walks out. later I get a bill.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

my doctor usually talks to me for seven or eight minutes and then walks out. later I get a bill.

lucky ducky over here. my healthcare system usually "forgets" to send me a bill before they turn it over to collections.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
tangential doctor chat

I did my annual checkup yesterday. doc was wearing an n95!

my blood pressure is at college levels now

I did a stupid experiment the last two years. last year I ate whatever I wanted and exercised and my blood pressure was 120/90. this year I didn’t exercise and counted my sodium and sugar intake and got 110/75

this is not to say diet is more important than exercise. I don’t know how many pushups equate to how many teaspoons of salt. but for me, the amount of burgers I was willing to give up gave me better results than the amount of pushups I, Steve Yun, was willing to do

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

NeonPunk posted:

The medical establishment cannot in good faith recommend wearing a mask as they never did a RCT to validate the medical benefits of it.

Rough chuckle

Indoor Dying
Dec 13, 2022
Just envisioning a new line of pamphlets for doctors to hand out

Cover: So you're chronically ill now
Inside: What do you want doctors to do about it lol
Back: Take Care

Cover: So you're in the ER - What to Know
Inside: You are in the ER
Back: Sorry! See you next time

E: Oh yeah The background they are printed on is just repeating YAY MASKS ARE OPTIONAL text with the word FREEDOM thrown in.
And each pamphlet includes a ticket to the next doctor/nurse appreciation brunch gala/senior+kids carnival

Indoor Dying has issued a correction as of 19:26 on Apr 16, 2024

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

Indoor Dying posted:

Just envisioning a new line of pamphlets for doctors to hand out

Cover: So you're chronically ill now
Inside: What do you want doctors to do about it lol
Back: Take Care

Cover: So you're in the ER - What to Know
Inside: You are in the ER
Back: Sorry! See you next time

https://i.imgur.com/2a3IpIb.mp4

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Who’s dying now? Here’s how recent COVID deaths compare to the early months of the pandemic in California

In the last six months California saw 3,472 deaths, a fraction of the number that died in the first six months

quote:

Four years after the start of the COVID pandemic, the age and race of its victims in California have dramatically shifted: Now, a Bay Area News Group analysis finds, those who are dying from the virus are much older, and more often White than Latino, a notable switch.

While COVID deaths in California have plunged across all race and age groups, a comparison of deaths from the first six months of the pandemic to the most recent six months of data compiled by the California Department of Public Health shows 70% of those dying nowadays are 75 or older — up from just over half in early 2020.

And while Latinos made up nearly half of all Californians killed by COVID in the first six months of the pandemic, White residents now account for nearly 60% of all deaths.

A stirring victory for #healthequity 🥰



quote:

First, the virus is much less deadly. In the most recent six months for which data is available, from Sept. 1, 2023, through Feb. 29, 2024, there were 3,472 deaths attributed to the virus in California. But in the first six months of the pandemic, Feb. 1 through Aug. 31, 2020, more than four times that number of Californians died from COVID — 14,648.

“Wow, we are doing so much better than we were,” said Dr. John Swartzberg, clinical professor emeritus at the UC Berkeley School of Public Health, his first reaction when looking at the data.

Damning with faint praise, innit?

quote:

However small the number, there is one statistical peculiarity: The two youngest age groups are the only ones that saw more deaths in the past six months than early in the pandemic.

Fortunately, most economic activity happens in older ages.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
COVID, Flu and RSV Vaccines Are Lifesavers. Why Aren’t More Older Adults Getting Them?

quote:

Sarah Meyer is chief medical officer at the Immunization Services Division at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Georgina Peacock is director of the Immunization Services Division at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Fisher has overstock on Moldex 2200 N95 respirators, two hundred and forty of them for thirty‐five dollars.

e: They’re actually the same price per respirator by the pack as by the case, so the only reason to buy in bulk is breaks on shipping.

Platystemon has issued a correction as of 22:03 on Apr 16, 2024

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
not now monkeypox we’re busy

https://x.com/drericding/status/1780338857394786799?s=46

dxt
Mar 27, 2004
METAL DISCHARGE

A total of $58 after shipping/taxes when I put my info in. Anyone tried these? Very tempting for the price.

toggle
Nov 7, 2005


pox got a firmware update by the looks

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Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

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