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i mean, i dont smoke. but from what i see of other peopes attempt, it sure looks to be
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what other life goals are np hard?
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i managed to accidently quit vaping once by just not being bothered to go buy a new vape so i think it's a per person thing, ive heard it's easy for some people and hard for others
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Aug 17, 2023 06:35
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is it np, or is it hard, op?
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Aug 17, 2023 06:48
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Raluek posted:is it np, or is it hard, op? i just can’t get hard for smoking
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Aug 17, 2023 06:55
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smoking being “benign” in the short term and non intoxicating, a break from work, easy social crutch, &c make it harder to quit than it would be otherwise. i mean it sucks and it can rly wrap it’s tentacles around your brain but it was still easier to quit than opes or smth on a willpower and subjective misery standpoint quitting smoking isn’t at all np hard it’s just hard
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OldAlias posted:smoking being “benign” in the short term and non intoxicating, a break from work, easy social crutch, &c make it harder to quit than it would be otherwise. i mean it sucks and it can rly wrap it’s tentacles around your brain but it was still easier to quit than opes or smth on a willpower and subjective misery standpoint what about “opes” then? np hard?
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Aug 17, 2023 07:04
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what is "np hard" anyway
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Aug 17, 2023 07:05
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hbag posted:what is "np hard" anyway it’s computer lingo for “almost impossible”
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fart simpson posted:it’s computer lingo for “almost impossible” lol
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Aug 17, 2023 07:19
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i'm 3 weeks into quitting vaping and yes
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Aug 17, 2023 07:21
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quitting smoking is easy. Just dont smoke any more. Dont put a cigarette in your mouth and light it. Pretty straightforward really.
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Aug 17, 2023 07:30
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Allan Carr says it's easy to quit
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Aug 17, 2023 07:32
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rotor posted:quitting smoking is easy. Just dont smoke any more. Dont put a cigarette in your mouth and light it. Pretty straightforward really. i mean yeah this is literally it. people make it way more complicated than it is, but this is it
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Aug 17, 2023 07:56
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rotor posted:quitting smoking is easy. Just dont smoke any more. Dont put a cigarette in your mouth and light it. Pretty straightforward really. (puffing gently on tobacco pipe) indeed, i never touch the stuff
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Aug 17, 2023 07:59
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I have tragic levels of self controls so drat I am pleased I never started there’s a woman at work who is “unsure” if vaping is bad for you so she just smokes
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echinopsis posted:I have tragic levels of self controls so drat I am pleased I never started Smart. Better the devil you know.
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Buck Turgidson posted:Allan Carr says it's easy to quit and he’s right. I smoked from age 14 to 44 and tried stopping countless times. read Alan carr’s easy way cover to cover twice over a couple of days and stopped without a single problem. never looked back and never will
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rotor posted:quitting smoking is easy. Just dont smoke any more. Dont put a cigarette in your mouth and light it. Pretty straightforward really. this is horrible advice and won’t work for most people. unless you fix the thinking that drives you to do it there is a very high relapse of, iirc, 90%. the physical addiction part of smoking is relatively easy to kick, it’s all the bullshit “good things” smokers believe about it will drive them back to it. it doesn’t calm you down, that’s just staving off of the current withdrawals. there’s nothing magic about the after sex or dinner cigarette, it’s just you didn’t smoke for longer than usual. that high feeling you get after you didn’t have one for a while is oxygen deprivation and you can just hold your breath instead if you particularly enjoy it smoking is the continual, expensive, deadlyl pursuit of feeling normal like people who don’t smoke at all shitface fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Aug 17, 2023 |
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shitface posted:this is horrible advice and won’t work for most people. unless you fix the thinking that drives you to do it there is a very high relapse of, iirc, 90%. the physical addiction part of smoking is relatively easy to kick, it’s all the bullshit “good things” smokers believe about it will drive them back to it. drat, thought we'd cracked it
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shitface posted:this is horrible advice and won’t work for most people. unless you fix the thinking that drives you to do it there is a very high relapse of, iirc, 90%. the physical addiction part of smoking is relatively easy to kick, it’s all the bullshit “good things” smokers believe about it will drive them back to it. i dont think it was advice op
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shitface posted:this is horrible advice and won’t work for most people. unless you fix the thinking that drives you to do it there is a very high relapse of, iirc, 90%. the physical addiction part of smoking is relatively easy to kick, it’s all the bullshit “good things” smokers believe about it will drive them back to it. it’s funny how wrong you are in this post, that I’m thinking it either must be a bit or bait, or mb you’re more sheltered than normal it’s absolutely calming it’s a drug in itself. I found em very calming from the very first cig so that’s obviously not withdrawal, and ppl with various mental disorders find therapeutic value in smoking, I definitely did at points. most ppl would place its value as less than its harm but that’s a choice for us all to make isn’t it? after sex cigs can absolutely hit harder, if you don’t understand how good it can feel to smoke when there’s a cascade of good feels and chemicals in your head and body then idk man. it’s similar to smoking after dropping the plunger or smoking when rolling or… & it’s not oxygen deprivation lol. i know what that feels like and it’s nothing like cigs
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Aug 17, 2023 14:46
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your post reads like an anti drug psa and just as uninformed lol
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Aug 17, 2023 14:52
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I am now compelled to defend cigs. smoking is good for you, it’s like smoking your vitamins
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Aug 17, 2023 14:58
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i haven't gotten np hard for 10 years
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OldAlias posted:it’s funny how wrong you are in this post, that I’m thinking it either must be a bit or bait, or mb you’re more sheltered than normal I'm not gonna accept any wisdom from someone running on reduced o2 levels
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Aug 17, 2023 15:03
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my wife doesn’t like to smoke after sex as the vibrations make it hard to not ash on the duvet
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yes it is "no problem hard" in that it is hard but no problem. hope this helps
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:i haven't gotten np hard for 10 years it happens to lots of guys
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I can stop any time I like, it's just kinda hard prime factoring numbers is the same
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allan carr's book was talked about on this american life a few weeks ago and it doesn't come out looking great, mostly incurious pseudoscience that happens to align with working with people sometimes they interview the guy who runs the Allan Carr foundation and are all, "but look, you can measure scientifically that nicotine has an effect on the body in contrast to what the book (and the guy above who's all "nicotine highs are just oxygen deprivation") tells you" and the Allan Carr guy gets super defensive and says "well the studies are wrong and I believe something different", to the point where weeks after the interview the guy is calling the TAL host and leaving weird messages on his voicemail about "why would you want to defend smoking" as if NPR is in the pockets of Big Pharma or something  but to the OP's question: I can validate in polynomial time whether you have smoked in the the last `n` days so it is not NP-hard Dijkstracula fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Aug 17, 2023 |
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Dijkstracula posted:allan carr's book was talked about on this american life a few weeks ago and it doesn't come out looking great, mostly incurious pseudoscience that happens to align with working with people sometimes lol that’s weird. like why lie it’s not like it’s hard to make an argument against smoking, lying about basic facts is a good way to get ppl to not trust anything you’re saying
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cig cravings as some variation of the halting problem
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OldAlias posted:cig cravings as some variation of the halting problem can you expand upon this?
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hbag posted:what is "np hard" anyway it's a computer science thing for algorithms that was explained to me once in college. I thought I understood it then but I probably really didn't
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ah, this is like when they tried to teach me big o notation and i learned nothing
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hbag posted:ah, this is like when they tried to teach me big o notation and i learned nothing it's pretty easy, you just draw one circle bigger than the other. you have to be careful though because sometimes the circle gets too big
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hbag posted:ah, this is like when they tried to teach me big o notation and i learned nothing tech interviewers really like the big o though, so it's good to have a handle on for that alone. if interviewers started talking about p or np or whatever I'd laugh at them
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welp
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OldAlias posted:lol that’s weird. like why lie it’s not like it’s hard to make an argument against smoking, lying about basic facts is a good way to get ppl to not trust anything you’re saying the weirdest thing was that it wasn't even a lie in the sense that the other person didn't seem to know or care; the Allan Carr Institute guy treated the easy way method more like blind faith than anything else and thought the notion that a bit of empiricism and neurobiology things might inform a (n even) better way to quit smoking absurd akadajet posted:tech interviewers really like the big o though, so it's good to have a handle on for that alone. if interviewers started talking about p or np or whatever I'd laugh at them
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