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gurragadon
Jul 28, 2006

Red text is probably how the site makes most of its money, but Jeffrey has shown he has no problem trying to get rid of people even if it makes a noticeable difference in store revenue.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:


Store revenue is down from last year. There aren’t as many new accounts being registered, and not as many avatars are being changed. Additionally, we permabanned someone who spent rather a lot on the forum, enough to make a noticeable impact. Stay hosed off, Alec Eiffel. We certainly intend to increase the amount of new users and if you want to hear about our plans for doing so, keep reading.


Is it possible to not have an avatar change if it's an anonymous purchase until it is approved by an admin or mod? That could help head off the majority of these doxxing incidents unless a mistake is made, and something gets through. I guess this depends on how many avatars are bought for others. If it's like 10 a day that doesn't seem so hard to maintain, but if its 100s it could get cumbersome for volunteer staff.

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gurragadon
Jul 28, 2006

The mods and admins are going to have to deal with doxing attempts and other heinous poo poo whether avatar purchases are anonymous or not. If the avatars don't show up immediately and have to be approved everyone in the forums won't see them at least.

I don't see a way to completely get rid of that and still keep any kind of red text or avatar purchasing for others. People will just buy accounts to buy avatars, or wait out some time delay, or post 10 times to meet whatever posting requirements there are. People spend thousands of dollars on this place just changing avatars and poo poo, its the reason I only had to pay 10 bucks in 2006 and can still post here without ads. If you don't want those people to be able to doxx people through avatars, you have to have someone review the avatar or text before it is implemented.

gurragadon
Jul 28, 2006

Here's the revenue from the SA store according to the owner. The highest revenue month was October 2021, and if each purchase was a $5 avatar purchase than that would be about 60 avatar buys a day. The lowest revenue month was May 2022 and that would be about 30 avatar buys a day at $5. Thats if all revenue was from the cheapest type of avatar purchase and no other source like the more expensive $10 version of buying someone an avatar or account purchases. There will be mistakes if admins/mods have to approve purchases, but unless my math is wrong then that's about the scope of purchasing were talking about.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

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2021 Raw Store Revenue:
Jan: $8,642.35
Feb: $6,301.55
Mar: $6,394.30
Apr: $5,790.25
May: $6,786.75
Jun: $5,994.07
Jul: $5,780.50
Aug: $6,349.80
Sep: $7,959.04
Oct: $8,919.35
Nov: $6,809.95
Dec: $5,565.20

2022 Raw Store Revenue:
Jan: $6,350.65
Feb: $4,794.45
Mar: $5,566.65
Apr: $5,083.10
May: $4,136.20
Jun: $4,433.55
Jul: $6,689.95
Aug: $6,337.80
Sep: $4,991.05
Oct: $5,317.75
Nov: $4,753.00

I would argue that most of the negative avatar buys are not from people "outside" the community, but it's mostly internal forum drama that blows up and making them traceable would limit the amount of really bad red text purchases. Also, it's the insane people who are spending the most money and who will continue to doxx even if half measure barriers are put up like account age requirements.

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