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It's come to my attention that many people have not seen critically acclaimed anime Revolutionary Girl Utena. Let's fix that together, in book club format! If you've seen it already, even better, but please don't spoil new watchers! Every week, let's watch three episodes on our own, then come to this thread and discuss them. That means that discussion of episodes 1-3 will begin on Monday, August 28, 2023. Because the current license-holder has uploaded the entire series in sub and dub to Youtube, I don't even have to tell you to go buy them! Here they are: Sub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TQFlVcPyUA&list=PLrrh84y760v-hDEulas0Tp_wiQy0FcjLl Dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdWr5YCoRGM&list=PLrrh84y760v9xDNuOiG6x1DsCG70LVQi7 Because this series has some important spoilers, let's spoiler tag things from every episode until their discussion date comes up. Please note! This series contains a large amount of extremely upsetting content. If you have any suspicion you may experience a trauma response to media, please read a comprehensive trigger warning for this series. I will not take responsibility for listing all of the triggering content in this series, because the list is very long. If you have a suggestion about the format, please let me know!
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2023 05:25 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 12:09 |
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A jargogle posted:Whats it like? Utena has the broad structure of an episodic magical-girl show set in a high-dollar private academy. However, there are many episodes which deviate from this structure. Other aspects that may inform whether you want to watch it are an unusual art style, highly abstract visual presentation, themes of mental illness, and swordfighting. It's really good.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2023 20:20 |
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Leraika posted:another perk to utena:
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2023 20:56 |
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Hell, you could even rewatch it, and discuss the episodes with us.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2023 21:50 |
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I've got the box set that cost hundreds of dollars but I don't own a blu-ray drive. So I will simply be watching from Youtube.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2023 01:56 |
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i'm unemployed lol
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2023 02:03 |
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Lady Radia posted:holy gently caress. i only saw the YT verson. links to the HD remasters? you have to get the blurays sadly...no other way to watch it. luckily they're affordable
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2023 02:03 |
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Maera Sior posted:Crunchyroll has them right now. Yeah it's a special run Nozomi/RightStuf did with goodies including a pair of rings. $300 msrp if I remember correctly and they took like six months to show up.
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2023 02:23 |
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It's Monday morning! Midnight here, about 8 AM Namtab time. That means that discussion of episodes 1, 2, and 3 can now be posted without spoiler tags. Please continue to spoil and note material from later episodes. The next batch of episodes is 4, 5, and 6, and discussion of those will begin on Monday, September 4. I'm watching through with the dub for the first time, and I'm pleasantly surprised by the quality of the acting. The script feels a little clunky but it's serviceable enough. It's also my first time breaking the show into three-episode chunks and I think it works great so far! Three episodes is just enough to establish the premise and include a more episodic story. Utena gets brought up as a series where you have to stick it out a bit for it to really get rolling, but I think it's not a half-bad three episode test. I appreciate that they front-load elements like relationship violence so you know something of what you're getting into immediately. First-time viewers, what do you think of what you've seen so far?
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2023 08:22 |
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Big Leg posted:narratively, the show establishes the only biographical information i needed to know 5 minutes into the first episode: utena is a hooper. It's so loving good. Instantly you understand she is the tomboy of all time.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2023 22:53 |
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I like chu-chu and I think paying attention to him pays off.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2023 01:10 |
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Namtab posted:also i have to use a vpn to watch this dub its pretty funny imo.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 01:01 |
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Big Leg posted:it's wild how normal she is. i want to find out more about her and the student council member with the stop watch hes also very normal
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 01:13 |
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It's Monday morning! Episodes 4, 5, and 6 are now open for discussion The next batch of episodes are 7, 8, and 9, and their discussion will open the morning of Monday, September 11. The show has started to settle into a rhythm, how do you like it? One of my favorite scenes from the whole show is in this batch, the slapstick scene where Nanami comes over for a study group. Altogether a very normal cast with very normal motivations who do normal things.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2023 08:07 |
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You really start to understand what this show is about when episode 5 rolls around and Miki walks in on Touga and Kozue all over his piano then Touga calls him a pussy with his shirt open.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2023 08:11 |
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A core pattern of Utena is that every single character is ultra invested in some poo poo that does not matter at all. You're meant to be annoyed by her right now. These are all rich teenagers, the world's most annoying category of person.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2023 03:50 |
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The jokes make the serious stuff hit harder.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2023 20:17 |
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TwoStoryHouseCat posted:Episode 6 rocks. I'd been expecting the show to be all drama like eps 4-5 but I like the gags more. I live for this poo poo. Please keep the speculation coming.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2023 22:00 |
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Pyrotoad posted:I still get pissed remembering the guy I lent my Utena boxset to that somehow managed to completely lose a set of episodes (I believe 19-23) and didn't even offer to replace them I think the Nozomi license is for America - try Crunchyroll for HD versions! I think Utena manages be timeless in that it's not about a super specific realistic experience of romance and moreso about very broad patterns that recur in many contexts.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2023 08:52 |
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parallel imo
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2023 19:31 |
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2023 06:03 |
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It's Monday morning! Episodes 7, 8, and 9 are now open for discussion. The next batch of episodes are 10, 11, and 12, and their discussion will open the morning of Monday, September 18. Nanami rules so much. It's becoming clear at this point that her episodes are about telling jokes with the characters, but the non-Nanami episodes are somewhat more serious. KENDO COMMENTARY: the shinai (kendo swords) are kinda stylized (you don't see a major feature of the leather grip) but I liked the characterization we got from kendo overall in episode 9. Saionji is definitely the kind of guy to fight from high guard in high school, Touga is the kind of guy to beat him from middle guard with a thrust, and they're both the kind of guy to do a serious match without protective equipment.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2023 08:04 |
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Big Leg posted:message to all the nanami haters out there
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2023 23:55 |
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the student council scenes are always really funny imo. thats what its like when overly serious teens sit and plot together for an hour a day
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2023 00:32 |
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everyone wants attention from him. and hes too busy getting a piece of his kouhais sister. you hate to see it
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2023 00:44 |
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no he deserves it
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2023 00:49 |
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The movie is a very different work from the series, and I was hoping to run a discussion of it after the series concludes. So please treat it as spoiler content in this thread until that time.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2023 03:18 |
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FilthyImp posted:PGSM-style live action Tokuanimu but with Utena and now I want this more than anything. this clip is from the musicals, which deliver at least some of that!
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2023 06:02 |
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i think the degree to which anthy's presentation to us is authentic vs inauthentic is very important to the show in a lot of different ways
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2023 22:36 |
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Ah hell, yeah I forgot to make the post. It's Monday afternoon! That means episodes 10, 11, and 12 are open for discussion. The next batch of episodes are 13, 14, and 15, and their discussion will open the morning of Monday, September 25. I love Nanami so so much and her being a hosed up little freak who's done serious bad things makes that more true, for me. Touga likewise is hosed in the head. He's evil, Saionji is evil, but it's such a petty little evil born out of an insecure domination of a petty little space. I think this point in the show is a great place to sit back and think about what "the prince" means. It's motivating so much of the action, is that motivation positive or negative? What does the prince mean outside of the fiction?
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2023 20:37 |
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The previews at the end of episode 12 are pretty important.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2023 23:16 |
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boke tsukkomi (comparatively) moe through helplessness seemingly "perfect" at first glance
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2023 07:10 |
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the low detail utena faces are so loving good. just the perfect amount of sketchy. and i LVOE saionjis texas tux. its actually (kendo content) kind of on brand for a kendo guy: the traditional kendo uniform is made of pure cotton with raw indigo dye and the pieces are meant to fade attractively (we see saionji wearing very faded hakama and a very new kendogi). so it's kind of on brand that he'd wear jeans and a trucker jacket, I like to think they're fancy schmancy denim boy pieces.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2023 07:27 |
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2023 04:24 |
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oh hey it's monday let's talk about 13, 14, and 15! 16, 17, and 18 to open next monday
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2023 23:51 |
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i have some concerns about this Ohtori Akio fellow
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2023 23:52 |
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oh right i had episode notes - 13 this is just a really good clip show. introducing akio this way, and his role in the supernatural drama, is really effective. the minor key version of 'sunlit garden' kicks rear end 14 i love the psychotherapy/confessional framing of this arc. it's perfect, and perfectly executed. i think the black rose is the high point of the show in terms of being highly abstract and stylized but about very real and relatable problems, and the way that people resort to drastic measures to solve them. 'revolution' can be hosed up! i feel so bad for kanae. she's in way over her head she needs to RUN im paying attention to the stuff on the desks. lilies this time. is the kanae/anthy dynamic......is this yuri? am i witnessing yuri? insane ending sequence. this is a horror show. 15 the best part of the show returns: miki entering the pain dimension as his twin sister publicly makes out with the entire school. its badass. i loved the stuco sequence despite not understanding it. miki and kozues cutesy little room with cutesy twin beds is adorable. "the path you must take has been prepared for you" is a line you end up hearing a lot and im still not completely sure what to make of it. is it about the falsity of a solution to ones problems presented on a silver platter by an authority figure? duel music was a little different this time i think milk jugs on the desks this time. kozue just wants her brother to take care of her............. the ending sequence is nasty lol. i watched with sub and dub and the sub is definitely better for a lot of these big lines.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2023 02:17 |
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Wrong bitch.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2023 02:27 |
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kozue ftmfw.......
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2023 09:35 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 12:09 |
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Big Leg posted:these words will haunt me for eternity its hosed Up!!!
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2023 04:53 |