Virtual Russian posted:

This bigtime. Multiple artists I know are pretty honest about trading sex for career advancement, not even big advances, just like a solo show. Or for art sales from collectors. It can be pretty predatory. The high-end art world of course is infamous for being money laundering all the way through, that shouldn't be news to anyone though.

I would partially contest most art movements being about wealthy people. 99.99% of art that has been made has never been written about. Even today, most art never becomes "important". It is still meaningful and beautiful, it just didn't become "important". Clement Greenberg, who is at the center of all this, crafted a masterful narrative about art and how art developed and progressed through history. If you ever were taught art history, even in highschool, you were probably taught Greenberg's theory, though it would never have been named. In short, he posits that the development of art is linear, always progressing from movement to movement, like a baton, and that with the emergance of modernity art began to progress into increasing levels of abstraction. That theory implies, and it is also often outright stated that abstract impressionism was the end result. All art history led to that. The notion of a linear progression to art history, that centered european art, had existed since much earlier, but Greenberg codified it, making sure the world understood art belonged to new york now. Long story short, art is so much more than what you were taught good art is. It most often is the exact opposite. Go check out some local art shows, there are likely some amazing artists you'd love. No need to buy, just go see some art. Also art doesn't have to be for sale!

tl:dr - Your entire conception of art, and art history, was a CIA op. Ab Ex being CIA funded is nothing compared to the art history you learned in HS being made up by the CIA middleman.

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This bigtime. Multiple artists I know are pretty honest about trading sex for career advancement, not even big advances, just like a solo show. Or for art sales from collectors. It can be pretty predatory. The high-end art world of course is infamous for being money laundering all the way through, that shouldn't be news to anyone though.

I would partially contest most art movements being about wealthy people. 99.99% of art that has been made has never been written about. Even today, most art never becomes "important". It is still meaningful and beautiful, it just didn't become "important". Clement Greenberg, who is at the center of all this, crafted a masterful narrative about art and how art developed and progressed through history. If you ever were taught art history, even in highschool, you were probably taught Greenberg's theory, though it would never have been named. In short, he posits that the development of art is linear, always progressing from movement to movement, like a baton, and that with the emergance of modernity art began to progress into increasing levels of abstraction. That theory implies, and it is also often outright stated that abstract impressionism was the end result. All art history led to that. The notion of a linear progression to art history, that centered european art, had existed since much earlier, but Greenberg codified it, making sure the world understood art belonged to new york now. Long story short, art is so much more than what you were taught good art is. It most often is the exact opposite. Go check out some local art shows, there are likely some amazing artists you'd love. No need to buy, just go see some art. Also art doesn't have to be for sale!

tl:dr - Your entire conception of art, and art history, was a CIA op. Ab Ex being CIA funded is nothing compared to the art history you learned in HS being made up by the CIA middleman.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

crack pinging into a mans rear end at burning man

Potato Salad posted:

I'm trapped in the same dying biosphere that the rest of these villains are stuck in, and that gives me no small degree of comfort.

Coolness Averted posted:

a fun camping adventure where they were airlifted and sherpa'ed to safety the moment stuff got rough, while their servants got trapped in lakes of poo poo and trash. Afterwards the trash was deposited on top of nearby poors.

i say swears online posted:

there's also the other way of succeeding at art: being a pretentious, self-serious, shameless insert into high society. i knew a couple people internationally that wound up in brooklyn and make the absolute hackiest middle-school poo poo. one of them just sold a mannequin head for $30,000 via sotheby's

edit i guess that was the maximum estimate, dunno what it sold for

AxGrap posted:

Govt funding art for propaganda is not new, and didn't define the styles but def exploited them. Was reminded of the infamous "monstrosities of madness" show that Hitler put on to prove a point that abstract expressionism was deviant and gross, and staged this photo with all the paintings hung all cockeyed to drive the point home lol.

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FirstnameLastname posted:

a childhood buddy of mine went from just off the street to hosting galleries in LA and selling $15,000 paintings by reply guying Instagram posts by [Grammy winning musician]'s gf until she liked his replies enough his posts popped up on [musican]'s ig n got his attention & a way into the celebrity art scene

i thought it was extremely clever

Poppers posted:

So did OP fall in love, have a transcendent life altering experience that elevates their consciousness to a higher state, take some cool photos, get jumped and sent to the hospital by furries, or waste his time and money? Anyone? Bueller?

Gumball Gumption posted:

Apparently burners just drop all the trash they take out on the nearest town. https://www.kunr.org/nevada-california/2019-09-06/trash-and-burn-the-mess-after-burning-man

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Govt funding art for propaganda is not new, and didn't define the styles but def exploited them. Was reminded of the infamous "monstrosities of madness" show that Hitler put on to prove a point that abstract expressionism was deviant and gross, and staged this photo with all the paintings hung all cockeyed to drive the point home lol.

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So did OP fall in love, have a transcendent life altering experience that elevates their consciousness to a higher state, take some cool photos, get jumped and sent to the hospital by furries, or waste his time and money? Anyone? Bueller?

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ram dass in hell posted:

lmao@ no compassion for their fellow man
tfw u pack enough molly for 4 days and end up there for 6

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