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love when im talking to an american customer and they're using us customary units, but using thousandths of an inch, giving me feet in decimals, using bar for pressure, expressing force in kips, and then giving me temps in kelvin for some reason. they've tacitly admitted that a base 10 system is better but kludged it into their traditional measurements. ah well, since US customary is based on metric, it's all easy to convert anyway
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I'd never heard of the customary system before this thread. I thought your idiotic system was called Imperial.
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Aug 25, 2023 15:27
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Blow posted:I'd never heard of the customary system before this thread. I thought your idiotic system was called Imperial. imperial is the idiotic units the uk uses. us customary is an offshoot from them. there's a lot of overlap. i think the uk also bases imperial on metric as well so it's just a layer of obfuscation on top of metric like us customary is, but there are some distinctions left between the two
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Aug 25, 2023 15:29
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Two inches or a yard Rock hard or if it’s saggin
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Aug 25, 2023 15:33
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I like using "imperial" to refer to it because it's a reminder of the horrors of imperialism every time someone has to remember something arcane like 1' = 12" or 5280' = 1 mile or talk about fractions of an inch when measuring for home repairs.
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Aug 25, 2023 15:34
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i live in a special kind of hell where much of the local tooling and engineering design thought is in metric, but due to our proximity to US steel and aluminum mills, practically all of our raw material stock is in US units, and also we have a ton of US customers. so metric and US customary are basically interchangeable to me and i need fluency in both
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Aug 25, 2023 15:37
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Fractions of an inch own for home repair. I dare you to hang 3 picture frames equidistant in a 1m span. Show me where the gently caress 0.33... is on your tape.
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Aug 25, 2023 15:38
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Which weighs more an ounce of gold or an ounce of feathers?
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Aug 25, 2023 15:40
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a base 10 system is obviously better you just need to scale the numbers used so they're convenient for every day use. Celsius on the other hand is just refusing to use the better system, FAHRENHEIT
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Aug 25, 2023 15:44
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zedprime posted:Fractions of an inch own for home repair. It's where it says 0.33m or 33cm on the tape, pretty easy to find
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Aug 25, 2023 15:45
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zedprime posted:Fractions of an inch own for home repair. if you can't find 33.3 centimeters on your tape, you have bigger problems than a choice of measurement system
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Aug 25, 2023 15:47
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GABA ghoul posted:It's where it says 0.33m or 33cm on the tape, pretty easy to find
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Aug 25, 2023 15:48
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loling trying to imagine my qc guy measuring a part and realizing it's metric and that he cannot find .33 m or .166 m or something lmao. if only we'd spec'd this in inches, it would be possible to measure it. alas, we used metric, notorious for being unmeasurable
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Aug 25, 2023 15:49
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AARD VARKMAN posted:a base 10 system is obviously better you just need to scale the numbers used so they're convenient for every day use. Celsius on the other hand is just refusing to use the better system, FAHRENHEIT Wrong
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Aug 25, 2023 15:51
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just came back from europe and whew. weird spacing between literally everything there. not a single equidistant grouping of objects anywhere on the continent. the metric system has struck again.
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Aug 25, 2023 15:53
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Saalkin posted:Wrong Yeah, because clearly celcius is also better, I agree. hot cocoa on the couch posted:just came back from europe and whew. weird spacing between literally everything there. not a single equidistant grouping of objects anywhere on the continent. the metric system has struck again. EUROPEANS 
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Aug 25, 2023 15:54
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Saalkin posted:Wrong I forgot you were a kettle of water, concerned only with state change. In that case Celsius is an excellent scale
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Aug 25, 2023 15:55
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:if you can't find 33.3 centimeters on your tape, you have bigger problems than a choice of measurement system Actually this is all a front because I am incredibly angry we don't use Swatch Internet Time.
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Aug 25, 2023 15:56
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It's time for tea bitches
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Aug 25, 2023 15:57
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A meter and a yard are close enough to be completely interchangeable. Just a tip for all you engineers and architects.
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Aug 25, 2023 15:57
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metric time or bust
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Aug 25, 2023 15:58
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:A meter and a yard are close enough to be completely interchangeable. Just a tip for all you engineers and architects. A yard is a part of land near a building that is part of the property that isn't the building
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Aug 25, 2023 15:58
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zedprime posted:Fractions of an inch own for home repair. zedprime posted:No, it's 1/3 of the way in between 33cm and 34 cm. check out Zeno of Elea over here. all hanging mosaics of the labours of heracles and poo poo
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Aug 25, 2023 16:00
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zedprime posted:No, it's 1/3 of the way in between 33cm and 34 cm. No, 33cm makes them equidistant over a length of 0.99m, which is what we Europeans always use to hang pictures. We call it a nineniner
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Aug 25, 2023 16:01
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I'm from the US, but I use the metric system whenever I can to be polite to my friends from outside of the US & England  Whatever the hell measurement system the US uses is so rare, it seems kind of rude to expect everyone else to use it
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Aug 25, 2023 16:03
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zedprime posted:I'm more entertained that because a French guy had OCD you have to routinely use interpolative interpretation (which, don't get me wrong, has fine accuracy in day to day processes) or adjusted metrics any time you want to do 3 of something. They figured this out 10000 years ago, whole number systems have cognitive advantages if you have common divisors of both 2 and 3. Multiples of 10 isn't a cognitive advantage, it's a compulsion born out of growing up with a base 10 counting system. you're using a tape dog. measuring to the 4 inch tick mark isn't inherently more accurate than measureing to the 33 cm and 3 mm tick mark lmao. by grabbing your tape you've already admitted that you're not looking for accuracy. cognitive advantages, yeah, that's why all of industry uses decimal inches, decimal feet, decimal everything
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Aug 25, 2023 16:04
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i grew up with both, and use both, and can easily say without hesitation that us customary is worse in nearly every way
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Aug 25, 2023 16:06
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Every time I see pictures of Europe it’s all leaning towers and crumbling castles. Seems like maybe they need to get a more accurate measurement system in place.
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Aug 25, 2023 16:07
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i will admit that fahrenheit is easier to use for day to day temp measurements. industrially, they're indistinguishable, just pick one. most of the mech eng i know use kelvin tho (even american)
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Aug 25, 2023 16:08
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Faceted gemstones are measured in the customar unit of carats, which are conveniently now defined as one fifth of a gram, because when cutting a gem the typical expected yield is about 20% of the rough weight.
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Aug 25, 2023 16:10
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:you're using a tape dog. measuring to the 4 inch tick mark isn't inherently more accurate than measureing to the 33 cm and 3 mm tick mark lmao. by grabbing your tape you've already admitted that you're not looking for accuracy. cognitive advantages, yeah, that's why all of industry uses decimal inches, decimal feet, decimal everything
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Aug 25, 2023 16:11
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How am I supposed to measure things in America if my foot is only 10" long?YeahTubaMike posted:I'm from the US, but I use the metric system whenever I can to be polite to my friends from outside of the US & England Pretty much how I've been, almost everyone I've ever befriended is outside the US so I just got used to dealing with metric everything in conversation. So I just use it unless prompted otherwise. SO's mom is brit/canadian so whenever she visits and talks about the weather it's in celcius.
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Something I hate is people refusing to learn even a vague notion of comparison between metric and imperial, C and F, 24 hour time. At least, people who run in to it regularly, which I feel like that includes any person reading this forum love reading posts and being LOL!! No idea what temperature that is!! Refuse to learn, well until next week when I do this again
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Aug 25, 2023 16:14
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YeahTubaMike posted:I'm from the US, but I use the metric system whenever I can to be polite to my friends from outside of the US & England Thank you. As someone who has had to deal with these weird rear end garbage units professionally, I absolutely hate everything about them and I'm really thankful when people do not bring them up in any international setting. I can't wait until they are completely gone like proprietary phone charger connectors or dental amalgam fillings
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zedprime posted:I'm not talking about industry I'm talking about home repair. By the time you are spending an honest days work of 333.33... Beats on anything you're going to be using a metric of your own derivation on trade practices and shortcuts. i promise you the rest of the world isn't struggling with the concept like americans are
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I lived through the change to the metric system in Australia. After the requisite bitching and moaning amongst some of the public, about everyone adjusted no problem. I'll always think of people's heights in feet and inches though, and there's no law against that. Otherwise I'm fully and happily "converted". You yanks can of course choose never to go metric, and hold parades and make songs and Hollywood movies about how wonderfully MAGA or whatever the imperial system is. None of the rest of the world gives a flying gently caress.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:i promise you the rest of the world isn't struggling with the concept like americans are
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lol i just googled swatch time and it's insanely ftw. i'm a believer
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Now that I have your true attention I'd like to bend your ear on my plan to liberate angles from the clutches of highly composite numbers or constructions requiring irrational numbers.
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zedprime posted:I have trouble believing this when the rest of the world has never stopped sucking from the 2,3,4,5,6,12 perfect common divisor time dick. Hellooo, it will take max 10.4166... Beats to ween yourself off. Lmao, I have never ever met anyone in my entire life who struggled to find 33.3cm on a tape or developed some kind of shortcuts or idiosyncratic units to deal with the number. The idea is absolutely insane. You just read the number you need on the measuring tape and move on with your life
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