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Jay Derkin posted:I guess I largely just fail to see why that has any place in a pre 3rd grade classroom to begin with? You're laying the foundation of a good education, why does the teacher need to be giving their views on sexuality at all? I don't think a teacher should be talking about their personal life with their students, doesn't matter if they're gay or straight. My teachers never once did that and it didn't negatively affect my education. People existing isn’t a viewpoint shitstain.
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Jay Derkin posted:I guess I largely just fail to see why that has any place in a pre 3rd grade classroom to begin with? You're laying the foundation of a good education, why does the teacher need to be giving their views on sexuality at all? I don't think a teacher should be talking about their personal life with their students, doesn't matter if they're gay or straight. My teachers never once did that and it didn't negatively affect my education. but that's still absolutely nothing to do with why your response to someone asking about CCP's inclusion/not scaring off the ladies survey was "modern inclusion is toxic and has gone too far"
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Rhymenoserous posted:Thanks for fielding the serious talk twig, as a broader member of the LGBQTIA+ community my first reaction is to make fun of this guy for being obtuse and stupid. I don't think I've even brought up the LGBT community outside of one reference to things I've been accused of. I fully believe that you guys should be treated identically to everyone else on the planet. I would say that's a fair position to take?
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Jay Derkin posted:I don't think I've even brought up the LGBT community outside of one reference to things I've been accused of. I fully believe that you guys should be treated identically to everyone else on the planet. I would say that's a fair position to take? Then you disagree with the Florida issue you are busy championing moron.
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Rhymenoserous posted:People existing isn’t a viewpoint shitstain. I haven't denied anyones existence, I simply don't think that sexuality has a place in a pre third grade classroom.
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i have it on good authority that jay derkin had sex with a jar of nickelodeon Gak
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Jay Derkin posted:I haven't denied anyones existence, I simply don't think that sexuality has a place in a pre third grade classroom. i bet you're one of those concerned parents who does not actually have a kid
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Jay Derkin posted:I would consider actual inclusion to be leaving everyone the gently caress alone and letting them live the way they want to. This recent trend of "You disagree with X small thing means you're a bigot and we hate you" is just ludicrous. Inclusion means the opposite of leaving people alone
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Furnok Dorn posted:i have it on good authority that jay derkin had sex with a jar of nickelodeon Gak I thought it was Floam?
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hailthefish posted:but that's still absolutely nothing to do with why your response to someone asking about CCP's inclusion/not scaring off the ladies survey was "modern inclusion is toxic and has gone too far" You've missed my point like 5 times. The point is that "modern inclusion" seems to bring in topics that are well outside of what I would consider inclusion to be. I don't think both gay and straight people being told to not talk about their sexuality to children in a school setting is preventing anyone from being included in society. There's a time and a place for everything, the classroom at that grade level, in my opinion, is not it.
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Rhymenoserous posted:Thanks for fielding the serious talk twig, as a broader member of the LGBQTIA+ community my first reaction is to make fun of this guy for being obtuse and stupid. i regret it already. my first instinct is always like "ok but just explain it to them in smaller words" but then i remember how utterly exhausting it is to attempt to explain these things to people who are committed to never understanding.
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Jay Derkin posted:I haven't denied anyones existence, I simply don't think that sexuality has a place in a pre third grade classroom. You played a lot of that “I’m not touching you lol lol who me I’m innocent?” poo poo until you were in your 30’s didn’t you.
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Rhymenoserous posted:Then you disagree with the Florida issue you are busy championing moron. I don't disagree with the law, but if it's being selectively enforced then I absolutely disagree with the enforcement.
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Jay Derkin posted:You've missed my point like 5 times. The point is that "modern inclusion" seems to bring in topics that are well outside of what I would consider inclusion to be. I don't think both gay and straight people being told to not talk about their sexuality to children in a school setting is preventing anyone from being included in society. There's a time and a place for everything, the classroom at that grade level, in my opinion, is not it. The entire point of the law is to make it illegal for a school teacher to say, admit he has a husband to his class, or have a picture of his family on his desk. It’s dehumanizing and you suck.
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Jay Derkin posted:You've missed my point like 5 times. The point is that "modern inclusion" seems to bring in topics that are well outside of what I would consider inclusion to be. floppyspud posted:One of them he likes one of them he doesnt Like what? You have literally 0 arguments you are saying nothing
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Rhymenoserous posted:The entire point of the law is to make it illegal for a school teacher to say, admit he has a husband to his class, or have a picture of his family on his desk. It’s dehumanizing and you suck. Teachers should go to school to teach, nothing more and nothing less. I couldn't possibly care less if a teacher is gay or not, but I don't see the need for any teacher to be talking about their personal life with students, sexuality need not apply.
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Jay Derkin posted:The X I was referring to would be the state of Floridas ban on teaching about sex to kids below third grade in a school setting. That sounds reasonable to me and I got some major backlash on that one. I'm going to drop a nuclear bomb on your house.
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Fajita Queen posted:I'm going to drop a nuclear bomb on your house. That's nice.
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Jay Derkin posted:I guess I largely just fail to see why that has any place in a pre 3rd grade classroom to begin with? You're laying the foundation of a good education, why does the teacher need to be giving their views on sexuality at all? I don't think a teacher should be talking about their personal life with their students, doesn't matter if they're gay or straight. My teachers never once did that and it didn't negatively affect my education. surely the foundation of a good education also involves socialization and understanding of the world in general, no? how old do you think kids should have to be before they find out that gay people exist? that some of their classmates might have two moms or two dads and that's okay? or do you just think it's actually not okay?
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Jay Derkin posted:Teachers should go to school to teach, nothing more and nothing less. I couldn't possibly care less if a teacher is gay or not, but I don't see the need for any teacher to be talking about their personal life with students, sexuality need not apply. No comment on the Gak/Floam/Fubber sexual allegations?
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Jay Derkin posted:That's nice. perish
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Baculus posted:No comment on the Gak/Floam/Fubber sexual allegations? I have absolutely no idea what any of that even means.
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Jay Derkin posted:You've missed my point like 5 times. The point is that "modern inclusion" seems to bring in topics that are well outside of what I would consider inclusion to be. I don't think both gay and straight people being told to not talk about their sexuality to children in a school setting is preventing anyone from being included in society. There's a time and a place for everything, the classroom at that grade level, in my opinion, is not it. what does that have to do with icelandic video game developer crowd control productions and their spaceship mmo eve online? surely the two must be related somehow, you're the one who brought it up.
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Fajita Queen posted:I'm going to drop a nuclear bomb on your house. woah now. thats only for wilo *his balls
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Having sex with two Heelies style shoes taped together with a couple sponges in order to assert dominance upon the eve thread
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Jay Derkin posted:I have absolutely no idea what any of that even means. you put your stinky little pecker into cyberpunk playdough because your brain resembles one of those tungsten cubes those bitcoin gomers were honkin off to
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Solus posted:the little wheels in the heels provide just the friction my foreskin needs When you are ready to experience the wonders of freedom.... I'll be here.
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hailthefish posted:surely the foundation of a good education also involves socialization and understanding of the world in general, no? how old do you think kids should have to be before they find out that gay people exist? that some of their classmates might have two moms or two dads and that's okay? or do you just think it's actually not okay? I think that realization comes naturally with age and with socializing with those around them. I simply don't think that it should be a conversation facilitated by teachers discussing personal matters with their students. Social issues absolutely have a place in the classroom, but that's something I would reserve for children above the third grade as it's a rather complex subject that merits a lot of discussion. Pre 3rd should largely be building a solid foundation to be able to discuss more in-depth topics later on.
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hailthefish posted:what does that have to do with icelandic video game developer crowd control productions and their spaceship mmo eve online? surely the two must be related somehow, you're the one who brought it up. Yes, because I've been told that my view on that is somehow related to the modern definition of inclusion, which I think has been stretched out to encompass things far beyond what I would consider to be inclusion. Thus my statement on what I think to be "actual inclusion" as opposed to "modern inclusion".
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Jay Derkin posted:I think that realization comes naturally with age and with socializing with those around them. I simply don't think that it should be a conversation facilitated by teachers discussing personal matters with their students. Social issues absolutely have a place in the classroom, but that's something I would reserve for children above the third grade as it's a rather complex subject that merits a lot of discussion. Pre 3rd should largely be building a solid foundation to be able to discuss more in-depth topics later on. ugh gently caress please post something interesting or coherent we're doing a lot of work to make you seem vastly more cogent and fun than you are loving hell
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Jay Derkin posted:Teachers should go to school to teach, nothing more and nothing less. I couldn't possibly care less if a teacher is gay or not, but I don't see the need for any teacher to be talking about their personal life with students, sexuality need not apply. Student: sees picture of traditional family on desk: “Who’s that?” Teacher: my wife I love her a lot Student: sees picture of non traditional family on desk: “Who’s that” Gay Teacher: I’m not allowed to say Congratulations on creating an underclass The fact that you don’t understand childhood inquisitiveness or normal human interaction makes me wonder if you are one of those Reddit “goons” haunting this forum to annoy me.
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Baculus posted:ugh gently caress please post something interesting or coherent we're doing a lot of work to make you seem vastly more cogent and fun than you are loving hell Are you just going to keep raging until I agree with you or something? I'm attempting to have actual discussion.
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Jay Derkin posted:Yes, because I've been told that my view on that is somehow related to the modern definition of inclusion, which I think has been stretched out to encompass things far beyond what I would consider to be inclusion. Thus my statement on what I think to be "actual inclusion" as opposed to "modern inclusion". so you think nobody in eve should be allowed to say they're gay because it's bad for kids? or what, help me out here.
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