Jay Derkin posted:The X I was referring to would be the state of Floridas ban on teaching about sex to kids below third grade in a school setting. That sounds reasonable to me and I got some major backlash on that one. what does that have to do with being "too inclusive"?
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 05:38 |
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# ¿ May 8, 2024 06:23 |
everybody shut up I wanna find out who's being "toxically included"
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 05:42 |
Jay Derkin posted:The amount of rage and ripping my posts out of context is rather entertaining. you. poster. who's being included in a toxic way?
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 05:42 |
hailthefish posted:you. poster. who's being included in a toxic way?
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 05:43 |
gay jerkin posted:the only inclusion im interested in is including this boys onlyfans in my late night web browsing shush stop giving him excuses to avoid answering the question
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 05:46 |
Jay Derkin posted:The question being? hailthefish posted:you. poster. who's being included in a toxic way? hailthefish posted:everybody shut up I wanna find out who's being "toxically included" hailthefish posted:what does that have to do with being "too inclusive"?
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 05:48 |
Jay Derkin posted:Ah, the "what does this have to do with being too inclusive", that's precisely what I'm getting at. To be called a bigot over my view of the FL poo poo is something that makes no sense to me, that does not mean I hate anyone, or even hold negative views of anyone. I've been told that my view on that topic is harmful to LGBTQ people and pushes them out of the equation. I fail to see how that is in any way harmful to their community or even affects it. Like at all. If that is what people view as "inclusion" then it is very much outside of what I've ever considered the word to mean. but that's nothing to do with inclusion. someone asked how people feel about the CCP survey and the topics of "inclusion" and "making this game not suck for women" and then you said "modern inclusion is toxic and has gone too far" and when pressed about it the only response you seem to have is "people shouldn't call me a dumbass because I don't think kids should have age appropriate sex ed before the actual onset of puberty, that's toxic inclusion" which has nothing to do with anything so who's too included? how is inclusion toxic? what does that have to do with CCP trying to make miserable space game eve online less manifestly awful for the ladies? surely you have some opinion that connects these two ideas otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up. hailthefish fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 05:52 |
Solus posted:Jay "D-name poster" Derkin it's amazing
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 05:57 |
Jay Derkin posted:I guess I largely just fail to see why that has any place in a pre 3rd grade classroom to begin with? You're laying the foundation of a good education, why does the teacher need to be giving their views on sexuality at all? I don't think a teacher should be talking about their personal life with their students, doesn't matter if they're gay or straight. My teachers never once did that and it didn't negatively affect my education. but that's still absolutely nothing to do with why your response to someone asking about CCP's inclusion/not scaring off the ladies survey was "modern inclusion is toxic and has gone too far"
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 06:01 |
Jay Derkin posted:I guess I largely just fail to see why that has any place in a pre 3rd grade classroom to begin with? You're laying the foundation of a good education, why does the teacher need to be giving their views on sexuality at all? I don't think a teacher should be talking about their personal life with their students, doesn't matter if they're gay or straight. My teachers never once did that and it didn't negatively affect my education. surely the foundation of a good education also involves socialization and understanding of the world in general, no? how old do you think kids should have to be before they find out that gay people exist? that some of their classmates might have two moms or two dads and that's okay? or do you just think it's actually not okay?
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 06:11 |
Jay Derkin posted:You've missed my point like 5 times. The point is that "modern inclusion" seems to bring in topics that are well outside of what I would consider inclusion to be. I don't think both gay and straight people being told to not talk about their sexuality to children in a school setting is preventing anyone from being included in society. There's a time and a place for everything, the classroom at that grade level, in my opinion, is not it. what does that have to do with icelandic video game developer crowd control productions and their spaceship mmo eve online? surely the two must be related somehow, you're the one who brought it up.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 06:12 |
Jay Derkin posted:Yes, because I've been told that my view on that is somehow related to the modern definition of inclusion, which I think has been stretched out to encompass things far beyond what I would consider to be inclusion. Thus my statement on what I think to be "actual inclusion" as opposed to "modern inclusion". so you think nobody in eve should be allowed to say they're gay because it's bad for kids? or what, help me out here.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 06:18 |
There was a wider-commiunity ladies only eve teamspeak and in game chat for a while several years back but unfortunately that was the only way in which eve has been ahead of the rest of society, in that the whole thing had a preoccupation with trying to clock any trans ladies (or insufficiently feminine cis ladies) who dared enter the Sacred Single Sex Space But yeah, there's not much ccp can really do because most of the terrible poo poo happens places other than in ccp controlled channels. And they don't give a gently caress about the things that do occur in ccp controlled channels so lol.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 09:34 |
Anyway remember the time mittens was remonstrating with people being lovely to women in cfc comms and concluded the whole spiel with (paraphrasing but not by much) "we need women to play in our coalition so we can use their feminine wiles as weapons against the sexless nerds who are our enemies" lmao
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 09:38 |
eyeroll gimbal lock
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 13:18 |
yeah mintchip was kind of a lovely person in my v limited interactions with her, and also didn't deserve the horrendous treatment she got. turns out two things can simultaneously be bad without automatically being equivalent OR making one of them good
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 15:00 |
imperiusdamian posted:I was hoping to try PLEXing my account from playing as an alpha clone. yeah don't try this it sucks so bad. Even if you're making literally US federal minimum wage you can pay for an account with less than a day of work, and if you're making anything remotely resembling a living wage it's like, an hour or less. And then you can actually do things in eve that are.. well okay 'fun' might be overegging it but 'not soul-crushingly miserable'. eventually, with a well-developed character, you can make enough to make plexing your account with isk more worthwhile, but trying to do it before that point requires devoting your every waking moment to having the most miserable time you can have in eve online, and all for the privilege of doing it again the next month
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 04:56 |
Dalmuti posted:on the other hand, plz do not pay money to crowd control productions under any circumstances on the third mutant hand, credit card tanked titans are never not funny
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 05:00 |
Kazinsal posted:I keep thinking I should hand fnln half my net worth and get a weekly stipend from it A lot of people thought that
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 08:43 |
Doctor Yiff posted:sometimes you just wanna drive a space truck space truckin is fun. sometimes it's even exciting!
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2023 07:11 |
twigplant posted:i'm actually not sure bc i didn't see the initial SLOW leak. there's lots of stuff in this one about telling trans people to offline themselves in various ways, lots of discussion about how drag queens and gays are pedos, a few mentions of final solutioning gays, a hilarious amount of lionizing tucker carlson lol. that sounds like a bigger version of the initial sl0w leak, yeah
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2023 18:58 |
ragnarokette posted:Bingus containment device Baylor College of Dentistry
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2023 04:37 |
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2023 07:19 |
Blessedly reddit seems to have moved on to the next shiny thing
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2023 13:39 |
grumplestiltzkin posted:Local is always primary when geese are around I like giving blues a friendly honk as I fly past, sometimes they even honk back
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2023 19:03 |
Toalpaz posted:Listen, I can pull 70-110 mln an hour in low-sec. Think I can do better in null? Having fun isn't important to me. well you've come to the right place
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2023 05:05 |
if you're a tedious unfunny karmafleet-grade poster, however, you may soon find yourself asked to
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2023 19:38 |
Zoya posted:folks who have been playing this game for 20 years and know everything it's okay i've been playing this game for 13 years and don't know anything (okay that's a lie I've been winning eve for most of it but still)
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2023 17:30 |
PhilippAchtel posted:With all the memes about "FC, can I get a pap" I'd have thought the requirements were higher than that. different member corps and alliances can have much more stringent activity requirements, most of the people going "fc pap? pap plz? was there a pap? fc when pap? are we getting two paps?" are typically not in GEWNS, at least that was my experience
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2023 17:36 |
Cast_No_Shadow posted:The idea of pap is weird there's plenty of people who want to live in the space and under the shield of a big bloc but don't actually want to do strat ops, and big bloc strat ops frequently suck rear end so it's hard to blame them too awful much but
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2023 18:05 |
Mr. Grinch posted:lol r/EVE is still a thing? I thought TEST imploded or something In a hilarious twist of fate, r/eve is now a stronghold for the worst posters in the imperium, which is now a primarily reddit-based bloc with SNOO forming a large chunk of membership
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2023 15:28 |
Cast_No_Shadow posted:Sorry I meant in isk costs from like 500m to 2.5bn yeah in ~2010 it was ~300m in isk to plex an account, now 300m won't even buy you a single 'new' plex (1/500th of an old plex)
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2023 05:13 |
time zone tanking is one of the things that contributes to the agglomeration into blocs but there isn't really a solution that doesn't involve "completely eliminate the concept of attackable structures", everything else is just trying to find a compromise that mitigates the worst aspects
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2023 16:37 |
I used to be scared of holes but living in the nest for a while cured me of my holephobia
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# ¿ Sep 29, 2023 22:54 |
Potato Salad posted:is the doctrinal response against rokhfleet no longer to refit 800 mm autocannons and a scrambler apparently it's now "shoot into their resist profiles from the drippy tip of your falloff range" lmao
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2023 06:08 |
they put extra ccpoop on it but still, happy day
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2023 19:07 |
walruscat posted:Is there a modern EVEMON replacement that uses the ESI logins? evemon uses the esi logins now. it's kind of crappy and busted, but that's just the entire esi everything tbf
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2023 11:01 |
Cast_No_Shadow posted:Shoot blues tell vile rat
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2023 23:35 |
dragonshardz posted:i paid to be able to post about poo poo MiniTru was doing and the Casino War, while a dirty MRCHI. Rejoined into Goonwaffe after a post-war break led to getting purged, then exited to Gooseflock, and then EVE entirely. hell yeah dirty mrchi crew
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2023 05:44 |
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# ¿ May 8, 2024 06:23 |
im gayer 4 jayer than ever before
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2023 20:20 |