Guavanaut posted:

And also uniforms really don't do that, otherwise the least classist schools in the country would be the old money public schools with formal dress codes, and I'm fairly sure that is not the case.

Even (especially?) in full tie and blazer and your-trousers-must-be-this-shade-of-charcoal schools rich kids will just use dress shoes or watches or items of jewellery that the staff wouldn't dare complain about like gold crucifixes to show off.

Jakabite posted:

I’d be grabbing a fake beard and some glasses asap tbh

Tesseraction posted:

Scotsgoons I have found your quintessential national embarrassment https://twitter.com/duckyle2nd/status/1695072313123721695

feedmegin posted:

In my opinion pickled onion monster munch is the best monster munch also chocolate oranges are Good Actually

Jakabite posted:

It makes me so mad that we seem to constantly lose the best and kindest of us and cunts like this linger on forever, with their heads attached to their shoulders and nary a care in the world.

kecske posted:

I had no idea this was such a heavily lurked thread

Darth Walrus posted:

Run a poll on chocolate oranges? It's possible you are the spokesperson for a silent majority.

HopperUK posted:

Yeah you can just say stuff and if you're being genuine the thread will be okay.

IllusionistTrixie posted:

You can't make me post!

Solefald posted:

Any of you goons actually going to The World Transformed?

Mega Comrade posted:

Complete tangent. Saw some kids wearing the exact same nu metal look huge black jeans with chain the other day, just as I did as a kid.
I thought that was one of the trends that was so awful it would never come back but I guess all fashion is circular.

OwlFancier posted:

I feel like you can ask the same question, come to something like the same answer, and still conceptualize it differently. I have no idea what I am, I don't think I ever have and until I got introduced to trans stuff and gender theory I thought this was how everyone worked. It took me a long time to understand the concept of "a gender identity" because the only concept of it I've ever had of gender is something that is enforced from outside. Everyone says you're an [x] so you must be one.

But that framework is entirely accommodating of, and useful for understanding, apathy on the subject. And the idea that you can just be whatever you want to be and you don't have to do stuff just because someone looked at you and decided you have to do x, y, and z because that's part and parcel of being your assigned gender and you don't get a choice in that, that's far more consistent and sensible to me than trying to crush the entire world and range of possible thoughts a human can have into this absurd pair of boxes and then pretending like nothing can exist outside that.

By far the most compelling takeaway, to me, from the recent proliferation of better ideas about sex and gender is that you can just do the things you think are important, be the things you think it's important to be, and that if some weirdo comes along and starts telling you "well you can't do that because you're not the right type of person" like loving, real life dnd classes or some poo poo, then they're the ones in the wrong. Once you start thinking outside of that then people who try to push that just look completely insane. And it's tiresome how much effort goes in to desperately trying to shore up the idea that that's the normal and correct way to think and everything else is going to collapse society.

Nuclear Spoon posted:

fond memory of looking at the nice pastel hoodies in the women's section in primark and a shop assistant asking me if i needed direction to the men's section

Nuclear Spoon posted:

i'm actually wearing the tasteful mint hoodie i bought on that occasion right now

happyhippy posted:

Hoodies and tshirts, absolute simplistic yet genius.
And it took near 2000 years to invent them.
The next evolution of the hoodie will be a onsie but its cargo pants lower half, hoodie upper.

History Comes Inside! posted:

The pastels and pinks don’t necessarily match with the shaved head, big beard and significant amount of visible tattoos and facial piercings but who gives a poo poo?

forkboy84 posted:

The excuse my school always came out with any time it tried to feebly enforce the uniform was "it prepares you for work where you will be expected to follow a dress code" but bro, work pays me.

OwlFancier posted:

Unfortunately it seems that it also produces a section of them who think it's all a very good idea, and they go on to be the ones in charge next.

Gort posted:

Yeah, when I was a postman they even gave me the shoes.

Reveilled posted:

I'm curious then, what was school like for the rest of you? Culturally I mean, among the kids, was there no sense of, like, group solidarity? I had a friend group of about 5 people when I was a teenager, but that friend group was part of a "mosher" subculture (which wasn't just moshers, it was the nerdy kids, the skaters, the music kids, the goths and so on), which would have been about 30 kids in my year, before you count the kids in years above or below. Nobody in that group would have mocked each other for their wealth (some of our friends were upper middle class, some were living in council flats, some were refugees). If you got isolated from the rest of your group you could get bullied (if you had to get home alone, for example), but it'd always be from people in other groups, and the bullying would be a in-group/out-group thing, not a rich/poor thing.

Reveilled posted:

Were there no other groups in the school? Were the rich kids the largest group?

Apologies if the questions sound weird! I feel a bit like an alien today realising my own school was apparently very not normal.

History Comes Inside! posted:

What’s the link that causes less stop and search to directly lead to less murders?

Obviously the graph is the graph but why is the graph

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Anne? I've always been impressed that she said "No, no titles for my children, thanks." She also doesn't seem to say stupid things very much (in front of cameras, anyway).

Guavanaut posted:

Having 'pregnancy' as just its own thing and being openly honest that it can go wrong in many different ways is probably the healthiest option, because the whole reason behind

was due to needing a difference between the types of spontaneous terminations that did or did not require a priest to deliver rites, so maybe these days let's just really not, unless specifically requested.

We can admit that teratomas and strange blastocysts and germ cell tumours all exist, that the process of gestating is a long and complex thing, that things can go wrong, and also tell both the clergy and the courts to just maybe stand back a bit, just for a few months eh, unless they are specifically requested to get involved.

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Julio Cruz posted:

but what percentage of our mashed potato do we import

Tesseraction posted:

The Tories really are loving worthless in the pandemic, it's a miracle we're only as hosed as we are.

Rugz posted:

The answer is to give them a brand to be drawn towards that they can actually identify with at the surface level. This is the age of the internet, where if something doesn't grip you in the first 5 seconds you go somewhere else. Whatever the merits of it may be for downtrodden men, feminism is not going to attract them when compared to someone saying they have all the answers and you should be really angry about it. Young men aren't going out looking for a cause, they are looking for consideration, when they find it in a MGTOW zealot they inherit the cause. Now imagine if there was a minister whose brief covered male healthcare uptake, male workplace wellness and male crime prevention notionally called a men's minister. It doesn't matter if the zealots are crying that it isn't what they were asking for (and it isn't) but their interest base has been eroded because now you have somewhere for young men to latch on that isn't controlled by incels, and whose problems can actually be solved by the created position (although this is mostly irrelevant, because the problem being fixed is the one of first contact).

The alternative is to just wholesale tell every man with problems that isn't enamoured with feminism that they are the problem and not worth fixing.

Recently a poll suggested that as many as 1 in 6 young boys have a positive opinion of Andrew Tate, do you consider these to be formative fascists 'buying into men's rights'? Are you prepared to discard that proportion of the next generation to 'I don't care go away' while making no steps to address the situation that gave rise to their existence? Do you think feminism is the answer to a problem that arose despite the existence of feminism?

Gorn Myson posted:

I've found it easy just in every day life to push left wing positions by framing them as "common sense".

For instance, why do we allow our utilities to be structured in such a way that a significant amount of the money that we pay towards it doesn't get reinvested back into it? That money goes out on things like shareholders and advertising and so on, why not just simplify everything, kick out the middle men and let out money be used on actually maintaining and improving on it? Thats just common sense, right?

And right there I've just made a decent case for nationalising our utilities. I doubt this would work as a political message, partly because every right winger would be screaming "thats just like communism where fifty billion people died every second" and every smug New Labour oval office would be dismissing it with "I think what voters would want is more choice".

Solefald posted:

Huh I thought Homeopathy already was on the NHS but I just saw they finally stopped recommending it in 2017.

I went to a bunch of talks and debates on the whole thing around 2012 as I remember it being discussed a lot at the time (I think the law was being reviewed? Idk). The local Skeptical Society was big on trying to educate people on it and the sheer amount of money the NHS was wasting on homeopathic treatments.

forkboy84 posted:

You sold post more OP

sinky posted:

Very to say that while the government is planning to use photographs from the passport agency to identify shoplifters, somehow.

frankenbeans posted:

That's not gonna work, my new (brexit blue) passport photo is the epitome of resting bitch face, and when I'm shoplifting, I'm always smiling. They'll never put 2 and 2 together.

Real Cool Catfish posted:

Is this what I think it is

fuctifino posted:

He shaved it off as a protest, as him cancelling his career through his own actions is similar to people being sent to camps, like the what happened to the Jews during WW2, or civil rights campaigners in the US. I'm paraphrasing, but he said this either on the recent Andrew Tate stream or with some other rapey fascist chud

e: Ah, just as I typed that, the video popped up on my feed again.
https://twitter.com/GBNewsSpin/status/1709297737185771880