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fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

NeonPunk posted:

I heard of the idea that the reason why we got so many furries nowadays is because humans are causing out of balance of how many humans and animals are supposed to be on earth. All those humans needed souls but there isn't enough human souls so they're just mixing up humans with animals to make up enough souls to get them reborn

youve heard it because its true

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Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

NeonPunk posted:

I heard of the idea that the reason why we got so many furries nowadays is because humans are causing out of balance of how many humans and animals are supposed to be on earth. All those humans needed souls but there isn't enough human souls so they're just mixing up humans with animals to make up enough souls to get them reborn

makes sense

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

although souls actually come from a sort of soul kettle where your lived experience returns and remixes with all living things and is then spooned back out into new living things but i get the general idea

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

DrSunshine posted:

i believe in roko's basilisk, does singularitarianism count

hmmm no even the religious kids would bully you for this

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

NeonPunk posted:

I heard of the idea that the reason why we got so many furries nowadays is because humans are causing out of balance of how many humans and animals are supposed to be on earth. All those humans needed souls but there isn't enough human souls so they're just mixing up humans with animals to make up enough souls to get them reborn

that’s an interesting take on like, therians, furries that I haven’t heard before

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

This is my fight, Yah-Weh
Take back my life, Yah-Weh

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

Red Baron posted:

the Unitarians don’t seem so bad

they’re pretty good, overall pretty accepting of queers and trans ppl (with some exception congregations who’ve broken away & out of covenant like your gadflys &c, tho ofc ymwv b/w congregations). they tend to be well meaning liberals who should be pushed further left

I’d say at this point in time the name Unitarian in Unitarian Universalism is a lil confusing to the overall mission as like, for the most part, it feels weird to be opinionated on specifics of Christian doctrine (that Jesus was just a man). I think most people involved these days lean universalist, in addition to bringing their own faith traditions with them

OldAlias has issued a correction as of 17:45 on Sep 1, 2023

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
unitarianism seems fine just like a waste of a sunday morning

nice obelisk idiot
May 18, 2023

funerary linens looking like dishrags

Cerebral Bore posted:

so as a theological question how many dicks does god have?
The original meaning of lingam as "sign" is used in Shvetashvatara Upanishad, which says "Shiva, the Supreme Lord, has no liūga", liuga (Sanskrit: लि‌ऊग IAST: liūga) meaning he is transcendental, beyond any characteristic and, specifically, the sign of gender.[9][10] Lingam is regarded as the "outward symbol" of the "formless Reality", the symbolization of merging of the 'primordial matter' (Prakṛti) with the 'pure consciousness' (Purusha) in transcendental context.[11]

so dickless, but spontaneously manifests all dicks outwardly

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
lingma

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022

OldAlias posted:

they’re pretty good, overall pretty accepting of queers and trans ppl (with some exception congregations who’ve broken away & out of covenant like your gadflys &c, tho ofc ymwv b/w congregations). they tend to be well meaning liberals who should be pushed further left

I’d say at this point in time the name Unitarian in Unitarian Universalism is a lil confusing to the overall mission as like, for the most part, it feels weird to be opinionated on specifics of Christian doctrine (that Jesus was just a man). I think most people involved these days lean universalist, in addition to bringing their own faith traditions with them

this is essentially what im getting at up thread. theyre nice folks but you can make christianity so flexible that you arent reproducing its teachings very much. and thats a little weak sauce to me

as opposed to say the mormons who are trying to start an entirely new religion and claim its christianity. which is twice as gay

Lin-Manuel Turtle
Jul 12, 2023

nice obelisk idiot posted:

The original meaning of lingam as "sign" is used in Shvetashvatara Upanishad, which says "Shiva, the Supreme Lord, has no liūga", liuga (Sanskrit: लि‌ऊग IAST: liūga) meaning he is transcendental, beyond any characteristic and, specifically, the sign of gender.[9][10] Lingam is regarded as the "outward symbol" of the "formless Reality", the symbolization of merging of the 'primordial matter' (Prakṛti) with the 'pure consciousness' (Purusha) in transcendental context.[11]

so dickless, but spontaneously manifests all dicks outwardly

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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Megamissen posted:

imagining a 4th century schizm over phallic trinitarianism

some roman emperor tearing his hair out because the goddamn bishops just can't agree on monopenile or dyopenile christology and their followers keep thrashing half of constantinople every couple of months

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


mark immune posted:

get His rear end

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022
what's the best church to pick up chicks at

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Ohtori Akio posted:

what's the best church to pick up chicks at

glenn beck says get yourself to a temple

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022

Delta-Wye posted:

glenn beck says get yourself to a temple

which kind

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

Ohtori Akio posted:

what's the best church to pick up chicks at

uu or lutheran or episcopal mb. anywhere that has and affirms young queer ppl in their ranks, none of this baptist ‘accepting but not affirming’ poo poo

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022
going to episcopal mass and staying late to see if i can get the dykey looking priest's number

Poppers
Jan 21, 2023

It’s me bitch. Bend over.

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022
lol at concept of you topping and lol at concept of you delivering a mass

Poppers
Jan 21, 2023

See any other Episcopalians around here? Hm?

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:
a piss tape raelian

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

i used to attend episcopal mass actually

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

Nobody can tell you silly made up proddies apart

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


turning to God in my search for meaning

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

Fortaleza posted:

Nobody can tell you silly made up proddies apart

hey now Episcopalians are at least small c catholics even if they are prots. i’ve no choice but to lean prot as they’re the ones who are most fine with my fag way of life lol

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

One of the older Churches here used to be really righteous and good, well known free cafeteria and homeless outreach, rabidly pro immigrant sanctuary, even published The Catholic Worker. But the archdiocese installed a right wing priest and it all went to hell and nearly all the parishioners left :/

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

OldAlias posted:

hey now Episcopalians are at least small c catholics even if they are prots. i’ve no choice but to lean prot as they’re the ones who are most fine with my fag way of life lol

Bet your local Quaker congregation would be even finer with it. Those goobers are the real deal, Nixon excluded of course

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022
quakers in many cases similar to the unitarians in that its not particularly christian per se. theyre cool though

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

Fortaleza posted:

Bet your local Quaker congregation would be even finer with it. Those goobers are the real deal, Nixon excluded of course

actually yeah I know some queer Quakers thru uu, they seemed cool. I appreciate their radically personal connection to god, seems like an interesting way of doing things & well different than the like, structures and formulas of a Protestant sermon or the hierarchy of catholicism

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
Ohtori in what way do you see christianity and marxism as being contradictory?

Cerebral Bore posted:

so as a theological question how many dicks does god have? like the father and the son would likely have at least two dilz between them but does the holy ghost also have some kind of invisicock?

Roman Catholic catechism states God is neither male nor female. That's probably filtered down to the more traditional proddies and I've never seen it raised as a point of theological contention between them and the Eastern Orthodox churches.

Herbert Stencil posted:

how come follow the guy who got purchased by capitalism in service of the white supremacist imperial project instead of the guy who made the foundations for the thing that fights capitalism effectively

The biggest religion which claims to follow the teachings of Jesus has had some pretty notable success stories recently in defeating capitalism's greatest champion. You could even say that the likely cause of America's downfall is a one two punch coming from Islam and Chinese communism.

Herbert Stencil posted:

do you think most religious people believe in the ostensible counter materialist foundations of the ideology as it is usually taught or can they be disciplined materialists or marxists in spite of the contradictory nature of the two ideas

also is that more or less viable in America compared to other places

Afaik historical materialism (Marx) is not dependent on the philosophical position materialism, which holds that only physical things exist. I don't think the majority religious teaching is contradictory to the former, or the majority of christian teaching, although some is (Calvinism).

dk2m posted:

im hindu but a monist so I don’t even believe in a god that’s external to me, rip to all my dualists y’all gotta believe in the big man AND still don’t even get to experience nirvana here

Are you talking about Advaita Vedanta? Like the idea that it's all Brahman (god?)? Because that's a very different idea than monism as opposed to dualism. Without knowing the details it doesn't seem to be contradictory to cartesian dualism, like Brahman could have a mind and a body.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Weka posted:

Roman Catholic catechism states God is neither male nor female. That's probably filtered down to the more traditional proddies and I've never seen it raised as a point of theological contention between them and the Eastern Orthodox churches.

so does this imply that jesus had ken doll anatomy?

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022
My outlook on the compatibility of marxism and christianity is heavily influenced by what Tolstoy and MLK said on the subject, namely that an ideology of class politics is incompatible with the concept of a universal brotherhood of man, and especially an ideology of class politics that proposes armed revolution and violence against people to achieve its utopia is fundamentally immoral. When I was a marxist, I felt that the revolutionary-socialist position which admits the possibility of violence against people to achieve communism is the obvious consequence of marxist ideas. Of course, there are marxists who do not feel the same way.

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

if god is neither male or female id consider it both instead so trans bodies are closer approaching to the image of god

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


Ohtori Akio posted:

My outlook on the compatibility of marxism and christianity is heavily influenced by what Tolstoy and MLK said on the subject, namely that an ideology of class politics is incompatible with the concept of a universal brotherhood of man, and especially an ideology of class politics that proposes armed revolution and violence against people to achieve its utopia is fundamentally immoral. When I was a marxist, I felt that the revolutionary-socialist position which admits the possibility of violence against people to achieve communism is the obvious consequence of marxist ideas. Of course, there are marxists who do not feel the same way.

so, you’re a liberal

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.
can god suck her own dick and if so is it gay

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022

biceps crimes posted:

so, you’re a liberal

liberalism is a secular evolution of the christian teaching

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Ohtori Akio posted:

My outlook on the compatibility of marxism and christianity is heavily influenced by what Tolstoy and MLK said on the subject, namely that an ideology of class politics is incompatible with the concept of a universal brotherhood of man, and especially an ideology of class politics that proposes armed revolution and violence against people to achieve its utopia is fundamentally immoral. When I was a marxist, I felt that the revolutionary-socialist position which admits the possibility of violence against people to achieve communism is the obvious consequence of marxist ideas. Of course, there are marxists who do not feel the same way.

Ohtori Akio posted:

liberalism is a secular evolution of the christian teaching

so armed revolution and violence against the ruling classes is fundamentally immoral, as opposed to systematic oppression and violence against the lower classes which is fine?

that's not a very gay ideology, pal

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OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

tokin opposition posted:

can god suck her own dick and if so is it gay

yes and love knows no such distinction, esp in self love lol

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