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Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



Welcome to the thread about Android! If this thread is sparse or doesn't contain the answer to your questions about an ancient phone or device, please check out the old thread— or just post, we need new blood.

Official site: https://www.android.com/

Android has changed a lot over the years. The broad strokes, however, have not:

What is Android?
Android is an open-source-ish operating system based on Linux and advanced by Google to be used in mobile devices. This primarily means phones, but can include cameras, tablets, refrigerators... really any "smart" device with a touchscreen is likely to have some flavour of Android on it unless it's an iOS or Tizen device.

What is this thread about?
This thread is for the discussion of all devices Android, but because the popularity of smartphones is so high: you're probably gonna see a lot of phone discussion here.

What should I post here?
Anything about Android or Android devices, really. There are, of course other threads if you have more specific questions, such as the Recommend me a phone/plan and Recommend me a Tablet threads. However, sometimes decision-making requires more information-gathering. Ask questions, especially if they're what you think are stupid ones! They may help someone else later.

Definitely post interesting information, reviews, or anything that might help a fellow poster understand the lay of the Android lands. Again, we're looking to archive information that can help thine fellow goon. Let's keep the spirit of the old thread alive as best we can.

Thread rules:
General forum and subform rules apply, but especially "don't be a dong about phones." Just because you think someone wasted their money doesn't change the fact that it's in the past. Be helpful where you can, shut up if all you can offer is being a jerk.

Make use of existing resources:
There are quite a few good threads about Android on SA and elsewhere. Don't get all your info from IYG! That said, here are some SA resources to get you started.
- Awful app (SA forum threadreader)
- SA Tablet Thread
- SA app thread
- SA Android games thread
- Google Play

Mr. Mercury fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Sep 15, 2023

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Aug 13, 2021



Frequently asked questions about Android:

Should I root my device?
Probably not. The reasons you'd root your device in the before times was to fix broken poo poo with the phones. That's less necessary now! For a practical litmus test, take a look at the rooting thread. Ghost town.

What is the Android ecosystem like in 2023?

There are tons of phones on the market that you can choose from, some with wildly different features than others, and some better than others. Main thrust here is that Android's open-source nature means there's tons of manufacturers and different flavors of the OS. I cannot recommend reading reviews and other online content about phones on the market strongly enough. These articles will broadly go over why each phone is worth your attention, and give you potential dealbreakers to consider. Additionally, they can help you find specifications that are hidden on manufacturer sites, and they can help you compare phones directly. Don't look at the scores, and definitely don't give a poo poo about rankings lists. Smartphones—especially Android phones—have come so far as to have very minor differences performance-wise, and the yearly upgrade cycle is pure insanity.

In general though, Samsung makes the popular phones, but Google's Pixel line is the one that moves the basics around what Android is — and where it's going. Look to the Pixel if you want the latest stock Android updates.

There are also new kinds of phones to be aware of:
Normal brick phones:
These are your bog-standard bricks that you're used to seeing everywhere. They're defined by being flat and rectangle-like, with features like a USB-C port, camera arrays, and an ever-upgrading list of specs crammed into a tiny glass chassis.

Foldables:
Because OLED screen tech doesn't rely on a static assembly of backlights and liquid crystals to change what's on your screen, we now have foldable phones. These can vary wildly in size, shape, and function, but the basics are the same. There's almost always a main hinge, primary and secondary displays, and numerous durability concerns. There are some phones with the primary screen as the foldable display (Motorola RAZR reboot), and there are others with the secondary display, albeit the larger one, as the screen that folds. Whichever screen is the one that folds will eventually develop a crease, unless the display does not use a hinge. Also, fight the urge to pull that thin plastic film on the display off. Unless it has a tab that's actually a protector that will kill your screen if you remove it so... be careful.

What phones should I look at to buy?
For specific recommendations, you're going to want to post in the Recommend me a phone/plan thread.

Because the release schedules are so friggin ephemeral, let's just talk lines of phones instead of individual models.

Asus:
ROG Phone - this line of phones uses absolutely ridiculous batteries and the latest chipsets available to them. As "ROG" stands for "Republic of Gamers," that should clue you in on the intended audience. Huge phones.
Zenfone - this line of phones are meant to be more budget-friendly but still powerful.

Fairphone
(numbered) - These phones are modular and allow hardware customization, for a price. Decent, if spendy

Google
Pixel - The most important line of phones in Android, these represent what the big G wants out of their OS. Every time a Pixel is released, it gives a glimpse into where Android is headed, and these phones often have the newest features first... outside of those developed by other manufacturers, of course.
Pixel a-series - This is the Pixel, but on toned-down hardware. Usually the best buy for the money if you want a decent phone but don't need the latest-and-greatest
Pixel Pro - Google's high-end entry, 6.7" screen, Tensor G2, and aluminum chassis
Pixel Fold - This one's new so we'll see how long it lasts. Flagship hardware, foldable. Same vanilla Android as the rest.

Honor
V-series - Foldable, offers latest specs (or near)
(numbered) - Slightly behind-the-times hardware, cheaper
X-series - Extreme bargain phones

Motorola
E-series - The phone you get when you can't spend more than $100
G-series - Affordable line, usually decent specs for the price but can vary. 6+"
Edge - Midrange, does not use top-of-the-line hardware, but priced to compete. Defined by curved edge screen.
RAZR - Foldable, high-end phone

Nothing
Phone - From the ashes of Essential comes... Nothing. These phones are generally flashy, but the substance under the hood is aimed at the upper end

OnePlus
(numbered) - Defined by "high power," these have SUPERVOOC charging, Hasselblad camera arrays (don't get too excited, it's licensing), and an unreasonable amount of RAM
Nord - this series is geared toward the mid-range buyer looking for somewhat beefier specs

Samsung
Galaxy S - Flagship phone line. This will boast the latest specs, water-resistance, features
Galaxy Z Fold - Flagship foldable. Similar to above. Folds out into a larger screen
Galaxy Z Flip - A foldable phone, but instead of getting huge, it's more like a flip phone from the 2000s.
Galaxy A - This series is the mid-range series, with middling hardware and typically some flavour of Exynos chip. You'll see a billion of these at stores.
Galaxy M - Entry-level phones, mainly designed to offer something cheap to hook people in who couldn't otherwise afford to.

Sony
Xperia 5 - The "value" line, which is still about 1k$. Latest hardware, 6-inch screen, solid camera.
Xperia 1 - The flagship line, similar hardware to the 5, but better display, some features
Xperia 10 - The entry-level line. This has some of the features of the above, but below $500 typically.
Xperia Pro - This thing is yoked up and ready to stand in for filmmakers and other content creators. Like the other Xperia phones, this one's very expensive.

TCL:
Look, these are basically all mid-level MT chipset devices that are on the more affordable side of things. But there's a ton of 'em. I'm tired.

There are, of course, countless other brands, but these are some of the more notable ones.

When should I buy a phone?
Typically, the big release seasons are in May and September. During these releases you may see companies trying to clear old stock, offering deals to upgrade via trade-in, or... nothing. But in general unless you're dead-set on getting a new phone right away, you may want to pump the breaks on it until June or October/November.

Mr. Mercury fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Sep 15, 2023

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



[Reserved for Goon crowd wisdom]

CaptainSarcastic posted:

a long-running evaluation of different phone manufacturers and how good they are about Android updates. It also supports that Motorola is just stunningly bad about updates, and has been for years now: https://www.computerworld.com/article/3687640/android-13-upgrade-report-card.html


Mr. Mercury fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Sep 18, 2023

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



CaptainSarcastic posted:

Just wanted to mention I think you missed a line on the Pixels, and have text that seems to refer to the Fold following the Pro line.

And I don't know if you want to include it, but a note that Motorola (since they were bought by Lenovo) has worst-in-class support for their phones might be a good idea. If you care about updates at all, having a warning might be helpful.

:ughh: you're right, I did. Thanks for pointing it out! And will include, thank you again

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



VictualSquid posted:

You linked to the dead android apps thread, not the current one:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3751764

Excellent, thank you

Negostrike posted:

What about Xiaomi? Sony just hosed off from my country and there's no OnePlus, Pixel, etc

Will add in a bit, was exhausted last night- when I got down to X alphabetically I just flatlined

Mr. Mercury fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Sep 15, 2023

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



Not gonna lie, replacing a screen on a broken asus phone where I had to disassemble the entire loving thing was an experience I'm not going through again. The nerds at the mall who do this for a living can earn the money, it only saved me like 200 bucks in exchange for a lot of frustration

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



That said, if the title should change go right ahead and post it

We have fun here

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



Hell yes I do!

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



I really think the way forward is the rolling design, but I'm not sure if that'll last long either

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



It's a tempting device? Still not wild about the AI poo poo but it seems like a cool phone

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



I found there's a fair few threads like that; sometimes years pass between sincere posts

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



AlexDeGruven posted:

*Checks thread*

JFC.

I retired my buttons a while ago but this would make for a good thread title

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



Branch Nvidian posted:

Android thread seems kinda busy, wonder what news happened...

It feels like a very serious thread title

Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



Any chance you're also Canadian? I've been getting a lot of that as well

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Mr. Mercury
Aug 13, 2021



Thread title remains undefeated

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