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Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

I am the Wizard Master
Have you guys heard about this? Apparently the UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has vowed to ban the controversial Bully XL breed, saying the dogs were "a danger to our communities" and would be banned by the end of the year.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66820591

quote:

The American bully XL dog is to be banned, the prime minister has announced, following the death of a man in a suspected attack.

Rishi Sunak said the dogs were "a danger to our communities" and would be banned by the end of the year.

The man, named as Ian Price, was critically injured by two dogs near Walsall on Thursday and died on Friday.

While many have welcomed the ban, some owners and animal groups said a breed-specific ban would not work.

The prime minister said: "It is clear this is not about a handful of badly-trained dogs - it is a pattern of behaviour and it cannot go on."

Mr Sunak said he was ordering work from police and experts to legally define the breed so it can then be banned under the Dangerous Dogs Act, which applies in England, Wales and Scotland.


This comes in the wake of a series of vicious and widely-publicized attacks by the breed, with the latest a 52 year old man who died in the attack.

Banning controversial dog breeds like pit bulls is a complex and contentious issue, and there are valid arguments on both sides - on one hand, banning dangerous breeds can help protect the public from potentially dangerous dogs. Breeds such as pit bulls have been involved in a disproportionate number of severe dog attacks, and banning them may reduce the risk of such incidents. However, critics argue that breed-specific bans are ineffective because they focus on the breed rather than the individual dog's behavior. A dog's temperament and behavior are influenced more by upbringing and training than by its breed.

What are your guys thoughts?

Wizard Master fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Sep 16, 2023

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Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH
:firstpost: in a Wizard Master thread, ground floor, reserved, etc

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


:geoduck:

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Wizard Master posted:

Have you guys heard about this? Apparently the UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has vowed to ban the controversial Bully XL breed, saying the dogs were "a danger to our communities" and would be banned by the end of the year.

This comes in the wake of a series of vicious and widely-publicized attacks by the breed, with the latest a 52 year old man who died in the attack.

Banning controversial dog breeds like pit bulls is a complex and contentious issue, and there are valid arguments on both sides - on one hand, banning dangerous breeds can help protect the public from potentially dangerous dogs. Breeds such as pit bulls have been involved in a disproportionate number of severe dog attacks, and banning them may reduce the risk of such incidents. However, critics argue that breed-specific bans are ineffective because they focus on the breed rather than the individual dog's behavior. A dog's temperament and behavior are influenced more by upbringing and training than by its breed.

What are your guys thoughts?

It would be super cool if you linked anything at all

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

if i were the dogs i would simply evolve the ability to speak so i could explain myself

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

just got your dog over there laying down. lifts his head up, gets up, stretches, says "ayyyy mike i gotta piss how bout a walk ovah heah"

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

Doing stuff and things


Chief McHeath posted:

if i were the dogs i would simply evolve the ability to speak so i could explain myself

Why did you eat that child's face?
"I don't know, sir."

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Chief McHeath posted:

just got your dog over there laying down. lifts his head up, gets up, stretches, says "ayyyy mike i gotta piss how bout a walk ovah heah"

why is his Dog Australian?

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

why is his Dog Australian?

idk the dogs nationality op, i apologize

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Feb 15, 2019

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bossy lady
Jul 9, 1983

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOOye9EB7Uo

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

it’s fine I guess, idc

Blow
Feb 10, 2004

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

It would be super cool if you linked anything at all

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/sep/15/american-xl-bully-dog-will-be-banned-says-sunak

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


Chief McHeath posted:

if i were the dogs i would simply evolve the ability to speak so i could explain myself

"Ruff 2A ruff 2A"

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

My pit bull lusts for British flesh. And pizza crust.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

It's always loving awesome to be walking a trail, then some one with a dog comes out of no where.
He never normally acts like that. He's usually so nice

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
Why would you get any other type of dog when pugs exist?

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


well nooner, some people want a healthy pet

Wee
Dec 16, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
All pet breeding should be banned.

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

Doing stuff and things


I prefer animals that can challenge me in hand to hand combat.

Sharks, bears, a swarm of like 30 scorpions.

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


none of them possess hands

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

Doing stuff and things


hand to hand to tooth and stabby parts.

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:

Sid Vicious posted:

none of them possess hands

Scorpions have hands everyone knows this sid

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Nooner posted:

Scorpions have hands everyone knows this sid

They have claws Nooner

sure okay
Apr 7, 2006





So what's gonna be the new breed for dipshits who train their dogs to be as angry at society as they are?

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


Chief McHeath posted:

if i were the dogs i would simply evolve the ability to speak so i could explain myself

I mean, putting my serious hat on for a second, a good number of dog attacks are, in the case of a well socialised dog, literally because the dog has been taught not to growl.

<rant>

Dogs only have a handful of ways to communicate discomfort. If you've built up a trust relationship through training, that communication is bidirectional.

Example: We had kids over and the littlest one decided on trying to pick up our dogs. The first thing the dogs did was give us the side eye - which meant, roughly, "hey buddy im super uncomfortable here can you intervene for me"; if you pay attention to dogs in groups, they will side eye each other too, it's a universal "I wouldn't try that if I were you, buddy" / "Dont't.".

It was all they needed to do, because being a responsible dog owner means looking out for those signals and acting before things escalate — we made up an excuse and moved them somewhere else and they were fine. If we hadn't intervened at that stage, the next thing they would have done would have been growling — this is a "I am stressed, you're pissing me off, back off now Please".

If the dog can't remove themselves from the situation, and they're past the point of growling, they'll snap — if you're a good owner then you've taught good biting hibition, this won't be hard enough to break skin. One time our eldest (rip T_T) snapped at me because she reeeeallly did not want to go out but it was obvious she needed to piss, it didn't break skin (ahe caught mostly air, deliberately afaict), and you could see her do an "oh poo poo" or whatever the dog equivalent of it is shortly after, she inspected where she'd snapped at me and then licked me as an apology. Another time, we gave them raw chicken wings, and the second oldest spent like 20 minutes licking it, nervous to bite into it because it was too much like human skin — we had to convince her it was ok before she actually went for it.

But then loving useless dog owners who want a dog as a Thing don't bother setting up that trust relationship and building that communication through training, so you have an already stressed dog (It's stressed because it doesn't understand what's expected and what the owner wants), and then on top of that a tiny being invading their personal space, and their only verbal way of communicating has been skinner boxed out of it through hitting or shouting — what other way can it communicate "stay the gently caress away from me"?

Bah!

alexandriao fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Sep 16, 2023

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

Szyznyk posted:

My pit bull lusts for British flesh. And pizza crust.

post the pizza pit

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

wizard2 posted:

post the pizza pit

Dreaming of biting the entire shadow cabinet except for Hilary Benn out of respect for his father.

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DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde
lol at the UK's schools are collapsing and this is how their PM spends his time

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

A reminder that when Harold Wilson lost the 1970 election he left his dog at Number 10 and Ted Heath hated the dog and treated it like a Labour spy. You crazy Britons.

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo
I would pet the dog

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

maybealabia posted:

I would pet the dog

Call Your Grandma
Jan 17, 2010

lol real nice thread here. it sure is cool to have a bunch of posts but zero twitter links so we don't know if anything is actually true

not!

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo
I think you mean X connects

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




they're gonna get around the law by selling them as dags instead of dogs

Bad Purchase fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Sep 16, 2023

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Call Your Grandma posted:

lol real nice thread here. it sure is cool to have a bunch of posts but zero twitter links so we don't know if anything is actually true

not!

I hate you and everything you stand for

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




Call Your Grandma posted:

lol real nice thread here. it sure is cool to have a bunch of posts but zero twitter links so we don't know if anything is actually true

not!

find us a good Xvideo about american bullies please

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
lol remember when Lowtax would barge into pitbull threads and throw a hissy fit about people talking poo poo about pits

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

the holy poopacy posted:

lol remember when Lowtax would barge into pitbull threads and throw a hissy fit about people talking poo poo about pits

I do not

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500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
Pit bullies more like it

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