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Russell Wilson Ranks (of 33 qualifying qbs per PFR):
Huh. He's not great but his stats are a lot better than I was expecting.
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AndrewP posted:Hoooooo boy, so far this thread is (in my opinion) severely underrating Trevor Lawrence who is far and away the best on this list followed by Purdy and Stroud It's Lawrence 1a and Stroud 1b... for NOW. Stroud is so fr34king accurate with his touch 
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Oct 10, 2023 06:20
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Bismack Billabongo posted:That’s insane. No he isn’t. Leaving aside how much I like to say Trevor bust just look at the stats man. Purdy is blowing everyone out of the water If you look at just stats Jimmy G looks like one of the best quarterbacks to ever play. Supporting context is important to consider. Purdy has incredible supporting talent on both sides of the ball and one of the very best offensive coaches in football. No poo poo he’s producing. If you out Lawrence in that situation then he does better than Purdy.
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Oct 10, 2023 17:51
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fsif posted:I mean just compare Jimmy to Purdy then. Purdy—as a rookie and second-year player—is dramatically outperforming Garoppolo. Higher completion percentage, higher Y/A, higher TD%, lower INT%, lower sack %, etc etc. I don’t think it’s literally plug and play but I think it is about as plug and play as could plausibly exist for the nfl. It’s just a terrific situation for a qb. I agree Purdy is probably better than Jimmy G.
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Oct 10, 2023 19:16
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sure okay posted:*Al Michaelsishly* "Chubba Purdy" Two chAINz
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Oct 14, 2023 22:42
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Stroud supremacy
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Oct 20, 2023 18:54
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Texans OL is injured, could explain the drop in running production. Also, Stroud is loving awesome. Obviously surrounding coaches and context matter but it’s also possible that Stroud is just better than Young. Because he is. It was absolute madness that Stroud wasn’t the first qb taken. So maybe hiring the qb coach or OC from Houston helps Bryce (almost certainly because Carolina’s situation is shot), but it doesn’t guarantee that Bryce will suddenly turn into Stroud. Ornery and Hornery fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Nov 7, 2023 |
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Nov 6, 2023 21:59
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When is Ross posting the updated qb rankings? Stroud better be top ten!!!
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Nov 10, 2023 01:21
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Bryce bad
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Nov 10, 2023 03:49
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Not since the 1940s have Carolinans felt this much hatred for a Reich. He must be stopped.
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Nov 12, 2023 22:25
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What’s up with Levis
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Nov 14, 2023 23:10
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Caleb Williams ducking rules what do you not like about him? To dislike Caleb is quackery!!!
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Nov 16, 2023 18:35
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R.D. Mangles posted:Here's my 100% reliable scouting report on roklokie QBs: whoever the bears pick will suck rear end. No. Not this prospect. This is finally the time for da bears to thrive
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Nov 16, 2023 19:31
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TheGreyGhost, where are you, make a draft thread pls
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Nov 16, 2023 21:51
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BlindSite posted:I dont like the looks of any of the QBs coming out this year, feels like. Chicago is talking themselves into another bust. I think they should look to find a trade partner. Caleb Williams is great and the haters will rue the day they doubted him!
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Nov 21, 2023 00:08
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StupidSexyMothman posted:https://twitter.com/austingayle_/status/1726696389621785022 Meanwhile look how happy stroud is
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Nov 21, 2023 17:58
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Diva Cupcake posted:Rosen would be much worse, but like he's the only one worse. The worst QBs to enter the league since 2018 on a EPA per play basis, two of them being undrafted... What the gently caress Rosen Like seriously what the gently caress
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Nov 21, 2023 19:00
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Amy Pole Her posted:He looked really really bad against the saints. I’m ready officially leave the “Bryce can absolutely still be a franchise qb” bandwagon I helped pioneer If he’s not a franchise qb then he’s a bust. Has any other qb in recent history been this bad then became good?
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Dec 12, 2023 00:20
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Cavauro posted:i think it's gonna be extra valuable to retain WRs when it comes to levis. he leaves a couple of completion percentage points on the table solely from strange throws that are unusual to catch in terms of approach angle, timing of the throw, and velocity. keep guys he likes who become very familiar with it all Billy Jeans needs fast wr and jump wr to haul in them big throws
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Dec 13, 2023 23:00
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mllaneza posted:Which turned out to be a coaching issue. As soon as he was playing for a competent, let alone good coach he was a very good QB. His stats and win/loss rate speak for themselves. Someone on the ringer podcast pulled the stats and if you only included Purdy’s passes that were at or behind the line of scrimmage he’s a top 5 qb in basically every category. That’s not praise for Purdy, that’s damning evidence. Last week he dumped a check down and it went 50 yards YAC!!! Purdy is absolutely in the best scheme on an incredibly stacked roster. He does not deserve the MVP. The success of the 49ers is not due to his greatness. The success of the 49ers is due to everything around Purdy, who is just a competent quarterback that can throw it deep (unlike early Jimmy G).
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Dec 14, 2023 05:43
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Coldforge posted:Not to mention it’s Pat Mahomes who leads the NFL in benefiting from YAC this year. I can’t believe what an amazing offense The Chiefs have this year and how overrated Mahomes is, etc lazy argument etc Mahomes is 2nd in attempts and Purdy is 24th.
Purdy benefits from YAC more than any QB in the league and it’s not close. Purdy is a good QB but his excellent production is because he’s on a stacked roster with the best offensive coach in the league. He should not be MVP.
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Coldforge posted:I believe your chosen statistic is largely meaningless, and your conclusion is incorrect. The 49ers’ offense benefits more from YAC than other teams offenses do, but that doesn’t reflect negatively on Purdy, because Purdy is also 2nd in Air Yards per completion. This is why his percentage of YAC isn’t outrageously high. He’s not just drinking and dunking, he’s making tough throws to get the ball to that stacked roster in position to get all those yards after the catch. Purdy is 2nd in Air Yards / Completion but he’s 11th in Intended Air Yards / Completion. The stats suggest he is generally taking shorter passes but on occasion takes advantage of when play design and talent provide huge air-yard down-the-field openings. Purdy is also middle of the road on advanced accuracy stats (like bad throw %), which is further evidence that the deep throws are just… a normal qb in an extraordinary situation. Again that’s not saying Purdy is bad, but it’s further evidence that he’s not an MVP player making incredible plays. He’s just working the machine that Shanahan built. Purdy’s receivers/tight ends are also hilariously better at catching than other teams. Purdy/SF leads the league in lowest drop rate at an unbelievable 2.0%. 2nd place is 3.5%. League median is around 4.7%. The gap between first place (Purdy) and second place is bigger than the gap between second and twenty-first. He’s a fine QB but he ain’t an MVP caliber QB.
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Parallax posted:the only way to know if Purdy is elite or not is for 49ers to jettison all their offensive talent so they should do that as soon as possible It makes sense. This is good scientific process.
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Dec 15, 2023 19:39
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Honest question: Have you watched any of his film? You're talking a lot about his stats but looking at the film is equally important. You have brought up his receivers having a lot of YAC and not a lot of drops like that means its a bad thing for Purdy when if you look at the same offense with the same players, as mentioned above, there were more drops and less YAC. Therefore seeing how/where Purdy throws his passes by watching film, I think the low drop % and high YAC numbers show how good he is; he has AMAZING anticipation, excellent touch, and impeccable placement which means it is easier for his (good) WRs and TE to catch (low drop rate) then run after they catch (good placement so they can run after making the catch). I’m a fan of an NFC West team and I also think Shanahan is an incredible coach who I love to watch. So yes, I have seen many niners games this season. I have questions about how anyone who watched the niners this year could not think Purdy has about the best context possible for a qb. Shanahan is spectacular.
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MrLogan posted:Niners fell apart when Trent Williams was out. Trent Williams is the best player on that team. Trent Williams is powerful beyond measure, a modern day Goku
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CJ Stroud
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Dec 18, 2023 17:44
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Fwiw it seems like Trevor is playing injured
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Dec 19, 2023 04:43
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AndrewP posted:People act as if other MVPs weren’t helped by their scheme or talent. 2018 Mahomes was playing with prime Hill, Kelce with Andy Reid calling plays and defenses not having any idea how to slow them yet. Give it to Purdy. Yes, the other mvps were helped by scheme and talent. Nobody was helped as much as Purdy.
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Dec 20, 2023 17:28
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CMC is Goku Give him MVP
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Dec 20, 2023 18:57
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Let the cube-headed SF qb, Mr. Darnold, play a game and give Purdy a lil break.
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Dec 20, 2023 23:33
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As we’ve discussed before, make a “best player at X” award. Qb, rb, wr, OL, dl, etc. But also add a “pluckiest player”award and give it to lil’ Bryce 
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darkforce898 posted:There is a good possibility that Darnold plays week 18 so you all can see what a night and day difference it has been this year. Is Shanny gonna play CMC in week 18?
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zimbomonkey posted:The "Aw Shucks, Look At Him Go" Award presented by Purina Puppy Chow. Adorable, co-signed
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YOLOsubmarine posted:He’s got that baby dog in ‘im. AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:That d'awwwwg? Lmao
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https://x.com/benbbaldwin/status/1737915640197808278?s=46&t=2HFO6SZKjNqr-CFyNaA8pQ Lil’ Bryce, big Andey
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Dec 22, 2023 00:17
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R.D. Mangles posted:lol at the Tyson Bagent Truthers The gap between Bryce and Andy is bigger than the gap between Herbie and Stick. That’s… that’s just wild
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Dec 22, 2023 17:03
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MrLogan posted:Trent Williams? I love Trent Williams and I want the world to know it
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Love had a starting grade of “unknown” and then public opinion has rollercoastered between good and bad. Where will consensus be at the end of the season? Who can say? One thing we all agree on; Love is better than Bryce Youngz
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If you are Pittsburgh or Atlanta, do you prefer:
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