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goatface posted:I know torrents still exist, but it really feels like a technology of the past. Like you're getting stuff off Kazaa or something. 
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TACD posted:”still exist”, what hip new pirating tech am I missing out on Message boards full of sketchy Rapidgator links, maybe?
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That's the point, I was torrenting things half a lifetime ago. There should have been exciting new tech introduced in the >decade since I stopped watching poo poo.
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pyknosis posted:I wanted to rewatch Star Trek TNG a few weeks ago but the only stealing methods I could find (do we still get banned for talking about this?) were absurdly large file size 4k remastered versions.... it was almost inconvenient enough to make me pay for Paramount Plus. Paramount Plus isn't any better, it's also the lovely remastered versions. I just want the originals JFC.
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Apr 18, 2024 20:56
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Get the DVDs out from your local library
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Apr 18, 2024 21:04
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^that also libaries might also have their own streaming service, granted its way smaller than any other paid service, but you get "free" access for just being a library card holder. also rip dvds/blue rays and make your own local archive.
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I've been buying legit copies of stuff from our local used record store and ripping them for Jellyfin (I keep the disks, but since we have a toddler I need to hide them, effectively). TNG is definitely a bit large even there though, and there's no guarantee it'll rip successfully (looking at you, weirdly shaped Simpsons S7 DVD box set that I need to return as I can't rip it). I did buy all the 'old' Star Trek movies for my collection, though, even Nemesis, as they were $1 each.
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Thanks Ants posted:Get the DVDs out from your local library oh dang I forgot all about libraries wait poo poo I don't own any optical media readers anymore
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pyknosis posted:I wanted to rewatch Star Trek TNG a few weeks ago but the only stealing methods I could find (do we still get banned for talking about this?) were absurdly large file size 4k remastered versions.... it was almost inconvenient enough to make me pay for Paramount Plus. I do not support IP theft in any way, but you can find tons of non-IP content at streaming websites such as goku.sx streamm4u.ws
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TACD posted:”still exist”, what hip new pirating tech am I missing out on I just go to goku.sx rn, or any site like it if one gets shut down, and they all have pretty much all the shows and you just click to watch and stream like with Netflix or whatever. I'm not even sure what site I'd use to grab a show torrent these days, just always easier to stream. The only complaint I have is one of the file hosts is kinda bad so I have to switch to another one if they're the default. Still better user experience than most of the streaming services I pay for, plus I often have to watch stuff I paid for through Goku because the legal paid sites are so poo poo.
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libraries also have their own gift shops that sell media at firesale prices, like imagine buying a whole boxset for less than 5 bucks.
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PhazonLink posted:^that My county's library system is hooked up with Libby so I can borrow stuff on my phone/computer. I think Hoopla is another one. I haven't used either in a long time though.
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If you don't mind watching away from home, you can always post up at an appliance store with TVs and watch whatever they have going on in there. Some places you might need to buy something to avoid getting kicked out to buy some extra time, but you can just return it later or get something you needed anyway.
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Khanstant posted:I'm not even sure what site I'd use to grab a show torrent these days, I recently discovered magnetdl.com which, last I checked, didn't even need a VPN to get to
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Microplastics posted:I recently discovered magnetdl.com which, last I checked, didn't even need a VPN to get to Public trackers like that will sometimes generate nastygrams from your ISP (if you're on some popular new thing, the studio will know about the torrent and make the ISP snitch, as an IT person I had to send a company-wide email asking employees not to loving torrent Avengers Endgame on our office wifi), but those warnings are basically toilet paper until you get like 6, then they might shitcan your account. It takes some effort to pull that off. They've been known to send people emails for torrenting professional porn which is funny if it's a kid doing it and their mom gets an email from Xfinity about Anal Destroyers XVII. Then there's private trackers for all kinds of things, but they're all very strict Don't Talk About Fight Club etc, etc to keep studio agents from infiltrating.
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Microplastics posted:I recently discovered magnetdl.com which, last I checked, didn't even need a VPN to get to LMAO you don't need a VPN to get to torrent search sites. You need the VPN to download a torrent without the MPAA seeing that you are downloading their poo poo. Torrents are extremely public. It's simple to monitor stuff like the list of IP addresses downloaded Madame Web last week. They then look up which ISP owns 192.420.6.9, go to that ISP, and say "who was using that ISP on Thursday the 18th?" At which point there are 3 answers: 1. you have a major ISP like Comcast or Verizon, who says "It was Microplastics, who lives on 22 Butts St." 2. you have a small and cool ISP like Sonic who says "Do you have a subpoena?" and then turns around and sends you a letter saying "if you download anything else we'll kick you off" 3. you have a good VPN, who says "we have no idea who was using that IP on the 18th, we don't keep records".
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Khanstant posted:I just go to goku.sx rn, or any site like it if one gets shut down, and they all have pretty much all the shows and you just click to watch and stream like with Netflix or whatever. I'm not even sure what site I'd use to grab a show torrent these days, just always easier to stream. The only complaint I have is one of the file hosts is kinda bad so I have to switch to another one if they're the default. I know it sounds silly but, https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread/all_purpose/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread/movies_and_tv/ Edit: Way late edit but vpn required unless you have a really sweet ISP Denim Dude fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Fun fact about Comcast. For years their Docsis 2.0 cable modems could be JTAG flashed to give free internet, by reprogramming them to the spoof the MAC address of someone else with an active account. Xfinity was falsely accusing and maybe even prosecuting thousands of people of downloading all kinds of illegal poo poo that other people did. Xfinity quietly patched it up with Docsis 3.0 apparently, but kept it hush-hush and never went after the hackers, so they wouldn't get exposed to all the legal retaliation. Very cool.
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Zero VGS posted:Public trackers like that will sometimes generate nastygrams from your ISP (if you're on some popular new thing, the studio will know about the torrent and make the ISP snitch, as an IT person I had to send a company-wide email asking employees not to loving torrent Avengers Endgame on our office wifi), but those warnings are basically toilet paper until you get like 6, then they might shitcan your account. It takes some effort to pull that off. They've been known to send people emails for torrenting professional porn which is funny if it's a kid doing it and their mom gets an email from Xfinity about Anal Destroyers XVII. Then there's private trackers for all kinds of things, but they're all very strict Don't Talk About Fight Club etc, etc to keep studio agents from infiltrating. So god drat stupid because those agents know drat well what the private trackers are. It's all just  .
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Duck and Cover posted:So god drat stupid because those agents know drat well what the private trackers are. It's all just Yeah I'm sure they could infiltrate most private trackers too, they probably just figure anyone using those are savvy enough to either ignore or fight the validity of the citations, whereas public tracker users are loving stupid enough to say "I'm so sorry!! don't put me in jail!" For on-topic, it seems very similar to Google. I think they're not wasting time nagging people who keep updating the ad blockers because they realize we'll stop at nothing. And they'll probably keep abusing the pushovers with increasingly more ads and nags. That's why I have such disdain for goons who admit they pay for premium. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Zero VGS posted:Public trackers like that will sometimes generate nastygrams from your ISP (if you're on some popular new thing, the studio will know about the torrent and make the ISP snitch, as an IT person I had to send a company-wide email asking employees not to loving torrent Avengers Endgame on our office wifi), but those warnings are basically toilet paper until you get like 6, then they might shitcan your account. It takes some effort to pull that off. They've been known to send people emails for torrenting professional porn which is funny if it's a kid doing it and their mom gets an email from Xfinity about Anal Destroyers XVII. Then there's private trackers for all kinds of things, but they're all very strict Don't Talk About Fight Club etc, etc to keep studio agents from infiltrating. Duck and Cover posted:So god drat stupid because those agents know drat well what the private trackers are. It's all just Elukka fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Duck and Cover posted:So god drat stupid because those agents know drat well what the private trackers are. It's all just When private trackers get targeted it's to raid the people running it. Nobody was sniffing oink traffic to send DMCA notices lol. The real pro move is to just get a seedbox and not worry about it.
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Thank you for all the resources. Glad we don't get banned for talking about this anymore. And I'm.... not sure what to say to the guy who told me to go watch star trek in the middle of a Best Buy. But I appreciate the effort.
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pyknosis posted:not sure what to say to the guy who told me to go watch star trek in the middle of a Best Buy. But I appreciate the effort. I watched the first half of Voyageur this way.
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best place to get your star trek is through a little something called star trek complete series in stardate watch order
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Elukka posted:There are also some other risks depending on where you are. In Finland and I think elsewhere in Europe, maybe sometimes the US too, there's a whole extortion business where will send you letters going "you've been pirating, send us 800€ or we sue". Yeah, in the US that's usually the BSA run by Adobe and Microsoft, they are shakedown thugs who target piracy of software, not movies/music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Alliance They only go after other corporations. They tried to pick a fight with my startup and I told them to kiss my rear end. Goons were aghast, like "that's a company of almost entirely lawyers, don't gently caress with them" but I had my poo poo together with every PC that I gave to users fully inventoried including all installed software and keys. Adobe was auditing us for poo poo we paid for and I showed them the receipts, and they were like "that's not sufficient proof" and I'm like "gently caress you it is" and they're like "nuh uh". We got them to gently caress off but our lawyer and I probably used up half the billable hours ending their nuisance as the figure they were trying to extort us for. edit: They even literally tried to audit our Adobe CC accounts, I'm like you stupid assholes, you can see they're subscriptions, they would cease working if we weren't current on them. It was really stupid like the BSA lawyers handed us off to an overseas support thing to audit us with, to save themselves money I guess but aggravate us more. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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susan b buffering posted:When private trackers get targeted it's to raid the people running it. Nobody was sniffing oink traffic to send DMCA notices lol. Yeah they don't get raided not through the super duper secret club but through not being Piratebay/supernova. So the whole shhhhh IT'S A SECRET climbing of the tracker exclusivity pyramid has always been . I could be convinced that some niche private trackers have use, but for pretty much anything else? Yeah just use piratebay.
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There really is a meaningful difference in the quality and quantity of what’s available on the private trackers versus the public, especially if you’re looking for anything that wasn’t released in the last few years. TorrentLeech is relatively easy to get in to, and it’s what TPB or Demonoid was like back in the day, but more so. The person upthread who mentioned seedboxes as the way to go is right: for like $5/month you’re set as well as a VPN, and you can trivially climb into the private trackers. I switched into that method last year, and it’s pretty sweet.
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Duck and Cover posted:Yeah they don't get raided not through the super duper secret club but through not being Piratebay/supernova. So the whole shhhhh IT'S A SECRET climbing of the tracker exclusivity pyramid has always been
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Duck and Cover posted:Yeah they don't get raided not through the super duper secret club but through not being Piratebay/supernova. So the whole shhhhh IT'S A SECRET climbing of the tracker exclusivity pyramid has always been ok
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Elukka posted:This probably depends greatly on where you live. I'm not an expert on how this works, but I would imagine copyright extortion companies can't trivially monitor what goes on in private trackers? If it takes some effort to get access they're not going to care because it's about making money and if someone has to put manual effort into it that cuts into the profit. Though by the same token, you're also probably safe by just using a VPN. It's like, when cops were busting us gays, they wouldn't focus on setting up elaborate prostitution stings if they could just catch people in public restrooms and parks. If there's more than enough reckless people to keep you busy and you can catch them dead to rights, why bother with the paranoid ones? Kestral posted:There really is a meaningful difference in the quality and quantity of what’s available on the private trackers versus the public, especially if you’re looking for anything that wasn’t released in the last few years. TorrentLeech is relatively easy to get in to, and it’s what TPB or Demonoid was like back in the day, but more so. The person upthread who mentioned seedboxes as the way to go is right: for like $5/month you’re set as well as a VPN, and you can trivially climb into the private trackers. I switched into that method last year, and it’s pretty sweet. The vast majority of everything on torrents are posted on Usenet first, which is the same ~$5/month and people set up their Plex servers where all their friends can just type the names of things and the Plex server will fetch the best copy from Usenet automatically. So it's funny to see the goon questioning why things haven't advanced beyond Torrents... bro the most cutting edge goon methods use loving 1979 tech.
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drat if i just switched to usenet i could get shows an entire hour earlier...
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At one point I had an account at waffles and the other big one at the same time, I don't remember the name. No matter how aggressive I set me seeding to I never managed to share anywhere close enough for a positive ratio and they made me feel like poo poo about it. And I tried drat it.
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I don't think you should worse things to people when better things exist just because you're use to the worse thing.Zero VGS posted:It's like, when cops were busting us gays, they wouldn't focus on setting up elaborate prostitution stings if they could just catch people in public restrooms and parks. If there's more than enough reckless people to keep you busy and you can catch them dead to rights, why bother with the paranoid ones? Yeah Sonarr can use bittorrent. BitTorrent is like a gathering of Orks in the midst of a Waaagh! Each Ork brings their own bits and bobs of dakka and gubbins, and they toss them into a massive pile in the center of their camp. From this scrap heap, Meks and Weirdboyz cobble together makeshift weapons and contraptions, with each Ork grabbing whatever they need to join the fight. It's a chaotic but collaborative process, with every Ork contributing to the arsenal and everyone benefiting from the shared loot. Now, Usenet is akin to a well-organized Grot-run workshop deep within the heart of an Ork stronghold. Inside, a cunning Runtherd oversees a meticulous inventory of all the teef, scrap, and shiny bitz collected by the Grots. When an Ork wants a new shoota or choppa, they place their order with the Runtherd, who then delegates the task to the Grots to gather the necessary materials and assemble the requested item. It's a structured and efficient system, ensuring that every Ork gets exactly what they need for battle. So, BitTorrent is like the raucous gathering of Orks tossing scrap together to create weapons and gear for the Waaagh!, while Usenet is like the organized workshop where Grots diligently assemble custom-made weapons for their Ork overlords. Both approaches result in an arsenal of dakka, but they cater to different preferences — the rowdy and collaborative spirit of the Orks or the structured efficiency of Grot labor.
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Denim Dude posted:At one point I had an account at waffles and the other big one at the same time, I don't remember the name. No matter how aggressive I set me seeding to I never managed to share anywhere close enough for a positive ratio and they made me feel like poo poo about it. And I tried drat it. The other big one was what.cd, I liked it a lot better because it was actually a well organized and curated library of music you can browse as opposed to the kinda flat "list of torrents you search through" thing I remember waffles being. It was such an awesome thing to find out about as a teen used to slumming it on the pirate bay.The ratio requirements were kinda tough, but a few years before its demise they changed it so that long-term seeders were still rewarded even if they didn't get much actual upload, and that's pretty much the norm now.
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Rip what.cd, gone but not forgotten. Apparently soulseek still exists and is active, too.
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Klyith posted:LMAO you don't need a VPN to get to torrent search sites. You need the VPN to download a torrent without the MPAA seeing that you are downloading their poo poo. Well, what I mean is, my ISP blocks pretty much all torrent sites but for some reason they haven't blocked magnetdl.com. I do use a VPN anyway so it's a bit of a moot point. I do appreciate the rest of the post though because I don't really know that well how torrents work, I certainly don't understand all this private tracker business.
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Look, I'm not saying y'all are wrong, but you're also doing a really good job of making paying for streaming enticing with the whole not even being able to agree on how to pirate poo poo and also making it sound really loving tedious.
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To get a film I go to my film site, type in the name of the film, and then I download the film and watch the film. To get anything else, I got no clue man, I ain't on those sites. I did find myself using IRC for something the other day, that was a blast from the past.
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