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Do you agree?
Yes, you are hurting the content creator's™ feelings and future
No, youtube is infringing on my rights with anti-ad blocker ads
Just click out and suck it up OP lmfao
I watch videos on dailymotion instead
Goku using incognito mode
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Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

youtube premium is great. this poo poo should be subsidized by the state

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Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Like 80% of the good original poo poo on youtube simply wouldn’t exist if youtube wasn’t trying to deepthroat you with ads. the money has to come from somewhere

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I wasn’t kidding about government subsidies for youtube premium. it would be totally justifiable if congress decided to pony up for this

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

deep dish peat moss posted:

It's weird though because people who block ads aren't very high-value targets for advertisers. In some ways ad-blocking is a benefit to the advertisers because people who block ads are generally less likely to find ads compelling enough to click through and convert, which allows the advertisers to reach a higher-value audience for lower costs (they're paying for fewer impressions and those impressions are more likely to purchase).

The only entity that's hurt by ad blocking is the ad provider itself, Google. By banning ad blockers, they get to charge advertisers for a bunch of extra low-value impressions that are unlikely to convert. This doesn't affect the pay that goes to content providers, it just shaves some of Google's margins off.

I guess it hurts massive corporations with marketing budgets so large that putting numbers on paper becomes more important than actual RoI too.
The creators get paid by impressions, not conversions.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

R.L. Stine posted:

anyone can copyright strike your account or if they don't like you and you can't do anything about it lol. people literally have to seek youtube employees out on linkedin to get their stuff fixed. garbage platform. love the content tho
You can just file a counter notice which takes like 1 minute and your content goes back up, unless they sue you in a court of law.

this stuff is frustrating for creators but platforms like youtube can’t do anything about it. it’s copyright law :shrug: someone could be issuing takedown notices against your post and jeff would have to do the same as youtube.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Nebula is basically youtube premium as far as I know, meaning things don’t get demonetized because you don’t need ad dollars

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Yesterdays Latte posted:

I like how the new corporate web is just taking things that the internet already had, for free, and selling them back to you. Ad-free music? Winamp and KaZaA totally legally acquired CDs. Movies? Also Winamp. Image hosting and life updates? You get your own website for that and put all the sick flaming skull gifs you want on it; there's all sorts of free software to make building a site easier now. Porn? The whole goddamned internet. Twitter feeds? Smacking yourself in the scrotum with a nail-embedded fence post. Weird niche content about soldering or chicken raising or old-rear end video games? There's a site out there, look around. SA's big niche is having a fairly large, curated, moderated community of non-dipshits, or at least extremely funny dipshits, with diverse knowledge and discussion, so we know for sure that it is humanly possible to create a social website that does not suck, but nobody else seems to have cracked the code yet.

I know this is pretty much :cloud: but poo poo, the corporate internet sucks rear end and I hope it dies in regulatory/antitrust/literal hellfire.
:cloud:

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Mistle posted:

:lol: Youtube absolutely can force your content off the platform and tell you to go pound sand because "an internal review has deemed the claim valid and no appeals can be submitted."
:shrug: you probably did use content that doesn’t belong to you

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Son of Rodney posted:

Since corona times all corps seem to go extra turbo hard on the monetisation train with netflix restricting Account Sharing or YouTube now trying to block ads.

As a result I will now go extra turbo hard to avoid paying for anything except for spotify which is still working strong for me and my 4 friends, listening to music just out of frame. gently caress ads, gently caress capitalism, any service I can't circumvent their restrictions I will stop using. In a few years I shall finally be free from social media and have saved hundreds upon hundreds of euros.
gently caress capitalism except you’ll pay for spotify the platform that pays artists peanuts? :confused:

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

It’ll honestly be much easier to jump through the hoops to subscribe to YouTube Premium at the Argentine price of US$2 than to do this incognito or alternate browser poo poo. $2 is nothing.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

As someone who’s worked on the other side of ad targeting, I’ve had a boss whose vision included marketing baby goods at women of a certain age group.

But the Target story is dumb. The !shocking! part of the story is supposed to be that Target with commercial forethought somehow predicted a woman’s pregnancy.

The more likely story is that pregnant women are a disproportionately large group of non-fragrant shampoo buyers. So a simple “Others also bought…” algorithm surfaces baby goods to buyers of that shampoo.

Corporations can indeed do a lot with your data but I think the reality is they do less with it than you might expect. You should be less worried about precision targeting than about data leaks. That’s something people don’t talk enough about.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

dervival posted:

for gently caress's sake I am getting really loving sick of these ads funded by the Epoch Times getting shoved in my face every loving ten minutes

they're not selling any products, they're just slinging horseshit. if I wanted to listen to someone slander queer people for several minutes on end I'd call my mom or something, jeez
lol if you don’t think falun gong is the way

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Internet Old One posted:

Its not an alternative web browser it’s a web browser but sure, switch your vpn to argentina, punch in a credit card and stay logged into google all day instead of just using firefox with a plugin that redirects to invidious.
You only have to log in to your VPN once, YouTube doesn’t care to clamp down on it, you can share it with like five other people and you’ll get no ads not only on desktop but also mobile and TV. It’s less the cost of a coffee. It’s one of the most no-brainer things ever if you watch YouTube with any regularity.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Internet Old One posted:

Or you could not take a recurring $2 expense and just use a different website and browser to watch youtube videos and not browse the web with a logged in google session. Also you can share this with unlimited people for free.

I have never seen youtube’s adblock nagger in my life.
Many people watch YouTube on their iPhones and TVs these days.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I think the reality is no one will pay the creators what they’re worth because if that were the case the creators would all just live off their Patreons.

Hell, there’s even a function on YouTube for you to tip your creator and basically no one uses it.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

LividLiquid posted:

We're not, though, because it still isn't happening for everybody. We're nearing the full deployment stage.

Also, Chrome is IE now.

Whatever web browser dominates the market will inevitably become IE. Ubiquity breeds this poo poo. We're too big to fail! Let's ruin everything and hope nobody notices!

Five years ago, my web dev partner told me in no uncertain terms to switch from Chrome to Edge. It was painless and amazing. It was Chrome without being a resource hog. It was Chromium with features. It was everything Chrome used to be.

But now Edge is being fed into the AI woodchipper because whoever decided MS's next step was open source has been sacked and now MS's next step is AI. So, Chromium, Chrome, and Edge ALL suck now.

So the cool kids will switch to Firefox, and maybe others will follow over the next ten years, but Firefox was what it is now before, and once it got that marketshare, it became what Chrome is now.

We are loving doomed to an eternity of switching to lower-tier services and products that gain marketshare by being less bad than everything else only to become the thing that drove users to switch to them to begin with right up until that option is ripped from our hands too.

Remember when you could pay for a game once that you then owned and could play unchanged forever?
I don’t think Chrome was ever this magical browser you reminisce about. The other browsers were just hot garbage. Now they’re slightly less than hot garbage, but still pretty bad.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Internet Old One posted:

Some poster here had one weird trick where he signed up with his VPN set to Argentina and paid $2/mo. Allegedly Sundar Pichai hates him.
It’s me. It works great. Zero maintenance. They just raised prices in Argentina so it’s like $3 or $4 now. But if they elect that insane follower of Austrian economics it’ll probably get cheap again.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Duck and Cover posted:

No it loving isn't cool. It isn't cool that we as a society accept the stupidest shittiest humans or pretend like they aren't the stupidest shittiest humans.
it’s the only reason we still let you post here m8

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

There’s a version of that which is true — tons of people are sideloading Android apps for pirated media and in many parts of the world that’s creating a surge in malware infection and financial fraud. Like, entire bank accounts are getting emptied out.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

GolfHole posted:

you know not enough people are saying that youtube funkin sucks anyway lol. i dont give a gently caress if they shut it down. you can't find the original "who's that pokemon?!?!?!" video without sifting through a thousand clones. youtube has no purpose as its original purpose anymore.
it’s literally the first result for “who’s that pokemon original”

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Argentina just elected their anarcho version of Trump so there’s no better time to subscribe to youtube premium with a VPN

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

why does a porn site need an alternative front end

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Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

owning the scammers by posting the scams :eyepop:

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