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Does this show stay good? Watching the finale of season 1 right now and man this poo poo has been tense. also jesus christ why are you such an rear end in a top hat Frank Sobotka, you seemed like a pretty good guy I thought. THIS is what you want to get mad about during the last hour before you bleed out?
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Phenotype posted:Does this show stay good? Watching the finale of season 1 right now and man this poo poo has been tense. also jesus christ why are you such an rear end in a top hat Frank Sobotka, you seemed like a pretty good guy I thought. THIS is what you want to get mad about during the last hour before you bleed out? IMO yes it stays good. Also I cut most of this stuff slack since they were born in like 1920 or what the gently caress ever.
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I like it. It has bad or dull episodes, but it's really cool overall and I love the setting and premise. It also looks like season 4 is a bit of course correction on the worst parts of season 2 and 3. The only thing that truly makes this show hard to watch for me is it's loving depressing thinking about what might've been. This show doesn't even present a communist utopian vision, but at the very least it presents a world capitalism didn't do as much genocide, and didn't literally burn the planet's environment down. It really makes me sad about what could've been with some minor changes in the past.
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Oct 16, 2023 01:25
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It's definitely not a perfect show, but it's a good one that's worth watching it despite its flaws. Embrace the flaws and shitpost about them.
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Oct 16, 2023 01:31
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Nichael posted:I like it. It has bad or dull episodes, but it's really cool overall and I love the setting and premise. It also looks like season 4 is a bit of course correction on the worst parts of season 2 and 3. It’s probably one of the most unrealistic premises. Even with all the investment in the world, tightly coupled systems like nuclear plants will fail. I think they needed a more believable way to sell this pro-nuclear future.
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It’s a good enough show to suck you in and make you post about it’s flaws
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TraderStav posted:Embrace the flaws and shitpost about them. 
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Oct 16, 2023 02:40
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Yeah, I've felt the show has gotten more flawed with each season and some of the problems from season 1 have just really grown out of proportion (Ed has become almost a caricature), and they have hosed up some storylines pretty horribly... but I wouldn't still be watching if there wasn't gold in them there hills, and there is! I do really, really miss Tracey and Gordo though, their final sequence was probably the high watermark of the show for me 
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Oct 16, 2023 02:50
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General Battuta posted:I pray to god we get bin Laden even though it makes no sense Reminds me of late era Tom Clancy where 9/11 happened in the Jack Ryan-verse even though it made absolutely no sense for it to have.
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Phenotype posted:Does this show stay good? Watching the finale of season 1 right now and man this poo poo has been tense.[/spoiler] Some parts of Season 2 are as good as Season 1, but it has some low lows, straight-to-the-center-of-the-earth lows. Imagine Season 1 is a normal prestige-level TV show, and Season 2+ are like if you told a high school creative writing class to watch S1 and take over from there. If you're able to take it at that level you'll have some fun.
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ok I kind of need to know what happened to Kelly’s baby. I’m no biologist but I can imagine developing in zero-g might cause some problems.
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It sucks but we get like two scifi shows a year that are decent and I've already finished the second one for 2023 so I may as well watch The Adventures of Mr. Dipshit in Space
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I believe in the fundamental thesis of the show so I'll keep watching it no matter how dumb it gets
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TraderStav posted:It's definitely not a perfect show, but it's a good one that's worth watching it despite its flaws. Welp, if this sort of thing is actively encouraged, then yeah lol I'm pretty aggravated after watching the first episode of S2. They built up all this intrigue about what the Russians were doing, that tense scene where Ed sees the Russian coming back up on their mining elevator, and oh poo poo the last shot of the cosmonaut was him looking suspicious at an empty Jamestown base, and now they're leaving Ellen all alone up there? And then boom, time skip, I guess none of that stuff mattered. Did they get a new writer's room or something? Felt like someone made a conscious effort to ditch all the plot seeds from the previous season.
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Oh man you are reminding me of stuff I had forgotten, yes please keep posting your reactions!
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:North Korea could have been so interesting if handled well. The alternative history could have easily been a country heavily subsidized by a dominant Soviet Union goes all in on tech rather than heavy industry and paranoia and reaped the benefits. Meanwhile South Korea languishes while the West plays catch-up and the cold war shifts to space. Unification under North Korea is the perfect kind of newspaper headline alt history and would actually matter to Korean war vet Ed. I wonder if it's a case of the writers not being able to naturally progress where their alt history will go, if they're doing that harry turtledove thing of "people won't read/watch if I don't put in events they know" or if it's the people right at the top not wanting to make political statements that stops stuff like that
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devmd01 posted:ok I kind of need to know what happened to Kelly’s baby. I’m no biologist but I can imagine developing in zero-g might cause some problems. IIRC mammal pregnancies don't really work out very well in microgravity. Apparently some important processes in the very early stages require gravity to work correctly. But Kelly was on Mars in 1/3 g, so the kid might live. Maybe.(It was such a dumb decision to not abort it)
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The pregnancy was so insanely irresponsible on the part of everyone involved, at every step along the way, that you gotta wonder if there will be consequences in show. Probably not. I wonder if the juxtaposition between our fearless and mission oriented gay astronauts and our deranged pill popping rage punching childbearing heterosexuals was on purpose. Combine that with the power of juche sustaining a North Korean comrade through the most titanic feat of endurance in human history and you might start to read this show as radical leftist propaganda 
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General Battuta posted:The pregnancy was so insanely irresponsible on the part of everyone involved, at every step along the way, that you gotta wonder if there will be consequences in show. Probably not. won't be convinced until ed turns to the camera to praise marxist thought and a five hour lecture on dialectical materialism's extension into space
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On ep3 of season two now, and okay, at least they're doing SOMETHING with the cosmonaut from the end of season one. Are they even in the same lunar base that he would have bugged? I thought the new one looked a lot different than the original Jamestown base, although I guess they might have just added onto the original. Still feel like this would have been a lot more gripping without a NINE year timeskip, though, seems dumb for all the tension between the Russians and the Americans up there to just take a hiatus for that long. Also really really hoping for more tense season one space mission stuff. This show was at its best when it was showcasing just how difficult it was to send people into space, and how easy it was for things to go wrong and leave everyone stranded and helpless. The interpersonal stuff has always been interesting -- I like these characters, for the most part -- but man these first few episodes have dragged it out without much of the cool space stuff. Also not a big fan of Molly Cobb leaving her radiation badge in the cave in that first episode, felt too much like lame TV show forced drama where people lie for no reason so there can be a dramatic reveal later in the season. I get that she didn't want her career to be over, but lol cmon, you'd want to know if you've just treated yourself to a horrible death within the next month or two.
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General Battuta posted:The pregnancy was so insanely irresponsible on the part of everyone involved, at every step along the way, that you gotta wonder if there will be consequences in show. Probably not. It blew my mind that the reveal of her pregnancy suggested so many potential plots moving forward - would Kelly be torn morally over the pregnancy, how would the crew react, was the doctor gonna try and force a termination, what would be the reaction back on Earth etc - and then (from memory) the next episode is just like 3 months later and everybody is just,"Oh there goes Kelly, our pregnant fellow astronaut  "
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Phenotype posted:Also really really hoping for more tense season one space mission stuff. This show was at its best when it was showcasing just how difficult it was to send people into space, and how easy it was for things to go wrong and leave everyone stranded and helpless. Season 2 being primarily "the moon is just a place we can go to regularly now" definitely shoves more of the enthralling "getting into space is REALLY difficult!" stuff in the background, but for all season 3's faults it does make that a primary feature of the show again.
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Phenotype posted:On ep3 of season two now, and okay, at least they're doing SOMETHING with the cosmonaut from the end of season one. Are they even in the same lunar base that he would have bugged? I thought the new one looked a lot different than the original Jamestown base, although I guess they might have just added onto the original. Still feel like this would have been a lot more gripping without a NINE year timeskip, though, seems dumb for all the tension between the Russians and the Americans up there to just take a hiatus for that long. Without spoilers: Yes, definitely built onto the original base. That comes up in S2 as a thing. The time skips are part of the DNA of the show, so get used to them. Right from the start Senor Tron fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Oct 17, 2023 |
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Phenotype posted:On ep3 of season two now, and okay, at least they're doing SOMETHING with the cosmonaut from the end of season one. Are they even in the same lunar base that he would have bugged? I thought the new one looked a lot different than the original Jamestown base, although I guess they might have just added onto the original. Still feel like this would have been a lot more gripping without a NINE year timeskip, though, seems dumb for all the tension between the Russians and the Americans up there to just take a hiatus for that long. Jamestown has expanded quite a lot. The original base is still there, it's the back door and covered in solar panels in 1983.  quote:Also not a big fan of Molly Cobb leaving her radiation badge in the cave in that first episode, felt too much like lame TV show forced drama where people lie for no reason so there can be a dramatic reveal later in the season. I get that she didn't want her career to be over, but lol cmon, you'd want to know if you've just treated yourself to a horrible death within the next month or two. Molly Cobb is the most Star Trek character on the show, she's the self-sacrifice type. BooDooBoo fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Oct 16, 2023 |
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Senor Tron posted:Right from the start RTD has talked about them having a multi-year plan worked out (although lots of details of it have changed) moving towards a literal starship. Russell T. Davies writing this show would be a headtrip!
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Oct 16, 2023 18:56
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Ed is going to eat the baby and gain it's life-force. Allowing him to continue doing space missions for another four seasons.
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:Ed is going to eat the baby and gain it's life-force. Allowing him to continue doing space missions for another four seasons. They're going to do "anti aging drug that can only be synthesized in space" aren't they surely not The REAL twist for this season would be newtypes
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General Battuta posted:They're going to do "anti aging drug that can only be synthesized in space" aren't they surely not Ed is the Second person to ascend to an energy form.
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Oct 16, 2023 19:09
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Was the first the guy who got jerked into the Saturn IV-B exhaust in season 1
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General Battuta posted:Was the first the guy who got jerked into the Saturn IV-B exhaust in season 1 no, it was karen
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Phenotype posted:Does this show stay good? Watching the finale of season 1 right now and man this poo poo has been tense. also jesus christ why are you such an rear end in a top hat Frank Sobotka, you seemed like a pretty good guy I thought. THIS is what you want to get mad about during the last hour before you bleed out? lol they had to use the text of s3 to outright put this in a context that seemed slightly less lovely because deke slayton was a real alive guy
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General Battuta posted:Was the first the guy who got jerked into the Saturn IV-B exhaust in season 1 Molly, who became light an instant before Boomybangbad. I reckon.
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Madurai posted:For All Mankind is an Expanse prequel, and nothing will convince me otherwise. Climate change wrecked our poo poo in The Expanse, while glorious communist space flight seemed to have mostly averted that in this show.
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Okay this season has been stuck in the doldrums but lol at the triumphant GUNS IN SPACE closer on episode 7 with I Fought The Law playing and the space marines doing chest bumps. The CGI wasn't terrible either on the LEM's flight, got a good sense of this fragile little aluminum foil vessel doing the trench run with four dorks clinging onto the back. But jesus, I thought they'd done that ages ago! I feel like the last time they mentioned that the Russians had stolen their site, they said they'd need to take it back immediately and just keep it staffed around the clock because the Russians would have to go home at night. And they DIDNT FUCKIN BARELY TALK ABOUT IT EVER AGAIN even though it's the most interesting thing going on. I figured it must have happened off camera over the month(?) we spent doing all kinds of character drama on earth, because man, they've really pulled back from the main reason season one was so gripping. The actual space missions are just kinda happening in the background without any direct input from the characters. I did like Margo's little friendship with the Russian engineer, at least.
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Phenotype posted:I did like Margo's little friendship with the Russian engineer, at least. Margo is fun times all around!
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Rappaport posted:Margo is fun times all around! I like the character a lot, but I also feel like the migrant family from season 1 and the daughter Aleida could have been cut completely except that they wanted to give her an arc outside NASA. Felt like her little visit to Werner in season 1 was kinda similar, interesting enough for the character but really kinda unnecessary, and divorced from everything else going on. A lot of stuff like that in general in season 2, just too much character drama versus the space missions and political commentary that stood out last season. Don't show me Karen almost getting with her son's old friend when you could be showing me tense standoffs on the moon where everyone's living at the end of a very tenuous thread and they're all hosed if people start shooting and blowing holes in their fragile little aluminum habitats. Phenotype fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Oct 17, 2023 |
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Madurai posted:For All Mankind is an Expanse prequel, and nothing will convince me otherwise.
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Margo and Sergei was my favorite thing about season 2.  Phenotype posted:Okay this season has been stuck in the doldrums but lol at the triumphant GUNS IN SPACE closer on episode 7 with I Fought The Law playing and the space marines doing chest bumps. The CGI wasn't terrible either on the LEM's flight, got a good sense of this fragile little aluminum foil vessel doing the trench run with four dorks clinging onto the back. This was one of my least favorite things in season 2  The followup where the Americans get a taste of assholes militarizing the moon was somewhat cathartic as a result. Not so great being on the other side is it you dicks! 
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