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haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






This remains the greatest thing ever written about SNL (and perhaps TV in general):

https://nymag.com/arts/tv/features/47548/

And trust me, if you think SNL is bad now go look up some of the episodes from the 1980/81 season. Holy gently caress. It was after Lorne got canned/left the show so they hired Jean Doumanian as producer. She didn't even want to hire Eddie Murphy!!!! Charles Rocket straight up used the n-word uncensored during a sketch and was met with 10 seconds of total dead silence from the audience.

Bimmi posted:

Even in the glory days, the musical guests were the only good reason to watch SNL. If you wanted funny, you watched SCTV.

Rage Against the Machine was forcibly ejected from the premises after only doing one song because they hung an American flag upside down and the crew got all pissy about it. They were also booked as the musical guest on an episode hosted by Steve Forbes, which is probably the funniest SNL bit of the last 25 years.

Elvis Costello pulled a great move too when he suddenly stopped playing the song his label forced him to play and ripped into "Radio, Radio". He got banned for awhile for that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD_24nDzkeo

haljordan fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Oct 17, 2023

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haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Jelly posted:

Paywalled, but I want to read it

Oh it just loads normally for me, that's weird.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






It's such a brutal piece but only because the guy who wrote it had total access to everyone at SNL and just wrote down what they said, word for word. poo poo like this:

quote:

“Someday, Chris,” Downey continues, still in his deadpan mode, “your son will be in a library with a friend, and he’ll pull down the Readers’ Guide to Periodical Literature. ‘Oh—January to March 1995. Hey, Dad’s in this one!’ ‘What’s it for? The ‘Fatty Arbuckle incident’—where he had that incident with the girl, and he was tried?’ ‘No, this is the one where he farts!’”

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






pencilhands posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-_ZDrypec

this is the funniest thing ive ever seen but i guess not on purpose

Yeah this is cringe to the one billionth power. Either that or Alec Baldwin holding up a "YOU'RE WELCOME" sign at the end of the season finale a few years ago....I guess we should be thanking him for his terrible terrible Trump impression and taking a spot away from someone who actually deserved a shot?

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Jelly posted:

are we still doing phrasing?

Hiyoooo!!!

Also I like how the armorer on that movie was apparently hungover and had coke/meth on her lmao

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Steve Martin dressing up like an Egyptian and dancing around was apparently a monumental moment in comedy history, pop culture is fuckin' bizarre.

haljordan fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Oct 17, 2023

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Who is the single biggest star to ever come out of SNL? Gotta be Eddie Murphy, right?

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Murphy was the first (and probably only) cast member to host the show while still a cast member, I guess that's why he goes to the top of my list.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Apparently Eddie Murphy was fuckin' FURIOUS over this joke from David Spade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdRfl0W6qbM&t=160s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm2cnYDcwkE

Jelly posted:

Sandler is top 5 as well.

Sandler is definitely way up there, that guy has the rarest form of power in Hollywood: He can actually make careers.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






He's also a big art nerd, a few years ago he gave a talk at an Institute around where I live and people got mad because he didn't like, recite every line from The Jerk or whatever

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Eddie Murphy probably was the biggest success tho, just in pure financial terms, the guy was an absolutely massive star

That's my logic as well. Bill Heder is funny as hell and Barry was a good show but Eddie had three straight films open at #1 before he turned 30.

edit: He ended up with SEVEN straight films opening #1

haljordan fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Oct 17, 2023

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






redshirt posted:

Murray's been consistently headlining films from the 70's on, and over the last few years I assume he gets paid nicely for the smaller roles and cameos.

He was never the mega star Murphy was during his run, but he hit pretty big stardom from the Ghostbusters - Groundhog Day window or so.

Eddie was supposed to be in Ghostbusters but turned it down to do Beverly Hills Cop

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






redshirt posted:

In the Murray role I assume?

Beverly Hills Cop was great. That was Murphy going to the next level.

Nah, Winston.

And Beverly Hills Cop was originally written for Stallone and was a much more straight forward cop action movie. However, Stallone added so much to the script that the budget went way out of control so he bailed and made Cobra instead. Once Eddie came onboard, they added all the humor into the script.

edit: Good lord, Cobra made $160 million, how was there no sequel

haljordan fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Oct 17, 2023

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Bowfinger is hilarious though, I just rewatched it recently

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Anyone who gets a meeting with Lorne has to wait outside his office for like an hour and a half no matter what, because he's a petty shithead

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






DaveWoo posted:

snl would've been canceled in 1980 if it weren't for eddie murphy, and it would've been canceled in 1996 if it weren't for will ferrell

And the woman producing SNL in 1980 had to basically be forced to take Eddie, she wanted Robert Townsend instead

haljordan fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Oct 17, 2023

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






BATS FLY AT MOON posted:

Who’s keeping it alive now?

Indifference and inertia

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






GolfHole posted:

makinnnnnnnnnnnggggggg copieeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssss

You likea da juice?

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






I wonder how much it costs to produce a typical SNL episode, apparently the pay for both performers and writers is notoriously lovely so I wonder if that's a factor in its longevity (plus what the hell else would NBC run at 11:30pm on a Saturday)

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Yeah true it's a guaranteed paycheck that won't bounce, which a million comedians currently working lovely clubs would brutally kill each other for

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






MrQwerty posted:

I mean, Robinson got elevated from writer to player, knew he wasn't working as a player, so he went back to the writer's room before he left. Guaranteed paychecks are nice.

My thinking was more that the execs kind of just renew the show out of habit because it's not a huge hit to the bottom line even when the ratings are real bad

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Hyrax Attack! posted:

As streaming culture gets more mainstream & old school networks are desperate for anything the youngs might watch that isn’t sports no way they’re gonna cancel something nearly all Americans have seen once or twice.

Who cares if it’s trash as long as the audience shows up and ads sell. Like how Simpsons will never end & someone keeps publishing Tom Clancy books.

The very first year the Superbowl goes streaming only, broadcast TV is done for. It'll happen a lot sooner than you think.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






GIMME GIMME GIMME THE BALL BECAUSE I'M GONNA DUNK IT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-uSWAJd9GE

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haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Haptical Sales Slut posted:

I still can’t believe Jack Handy was actually the writers name lol. Deep thoughts was always good.

Because, hey, free dummy.

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