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It seems like there was some commonality between early hacker culture like you’d see at MIT and in zines like Youth International Party Line and the scene all the way up till the 2000s but after chanology it’s all aspiring criminals, hactivists, and security professionals. Is there still some youth subculture somewhere revolving around m80s, prank calls, huffing glue, hacking your local branch library, and cringy writing? I know some scene people still but we’re all old and wouldn’t be part of something so dumb and risky. Does it still exist?
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it was a time and a place that doesnt exist in the same way anymore i actually wonder what the youth (like high schoolers) are getting up to these days in this regard my (younger than HS) nieces and nephews are loving around in roblox or minecraft or scratch.mit.edu usually
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Share Bear posted:i actually wonder what the youth (like high schoolers) are getting up to these days in this regard it's roblox all the way down, unfortunately.
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Oct 19, 2023 16:37
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a lot of the stuff that would be considered a "prank" or no big deal back in the day is now a federal felony so that sucked a lot of the fun out of it
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Oct 19, 2023 16:41
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anything can be a hacker scene if you wear huge shades and say “I’m in” in a badass voice
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Oct 19, 2023 16:55
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akadajet posted:it's roblox all the way down, unfortunately. No no we can work with this. We need to mod minecraft so that it has realistic drug and explosive crafting, raw sockets, telephony, and a network scanner.
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Oct 19, 2023 16:59
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Internet Old One posted:It seems like there was some commonality between early hacker culture like you’d see at MIT and in zines like Youth International Party Line and the scene all the way up till the 2000s but after chanology it’s all aspiring criminals, hactivists, and security professionals. those people were never really all that relevant even back in the day. they were just the only people on the internet so you heard about their bullshit a lot more
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Oct 19, 2023 17:12
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qirex posted:a lot of the stuff that would be considered a "prank" or no big deal back in the day is now a federal felony yeah. lol
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Oct 19, 2023 17:26
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its hackthebox and discord now op
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Oct 19, 2023 17:37
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Internet Old One posted:It seems like there was some commonality between early hacker culture like you’d see at MIT and in zines like Youth International Party Line and the scene all the way up till the 2000s but after chanology it’s all aspiring criminals, hactivists, and security professionals. this is here, on yospos. and irc, discord, in Twitter circles (less so now tho lol), and on mastodon, or maybe Bluesky. also in other niche forums, mailing lists, what have you. it isn’t just one scene there’s like, so many, but they’re often lazer focused on like, a specific topic. maybe they’re into retrogames, rom hacks and fan translations? well there’s communities down to the console level for that
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Oct 19, 2023 17:42
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Sweevo posted:those people were never really all that relevant even back in the day. they were just the only people on the internet so you heard about their bullshit a lot more What people and relevant to what? YIPL predates arpanet and when I think of MIT hackers I think of ITS which also predates arpanet. A lot of the scene people I knew in the 90s grew up to be pretty important.
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OldAlias posted:this is here, on yospos. and irc, discord, in Twitter circles (less so now tho lol), and on mastodon, or maybe Bluesky. also in other niche forums, mailing lists, what have you. Yeah but we’re like grown ups and generally expect a certain level of maturity there might be kids in these scenes but they’re not behaving like it’s the lord of the flies. There’s other cultural differences that are pretty hard to explain. Like if the scene still existed the way it did from 1960 to especially the 80s and 90s we would probably universally disapprove. I wouldn’t want to be involved in any such scene but I would be curious about it. I think some of the other posters are on to something about today’s severe consequences. By the 90s everyone was extremely paranoid and it helped foster a very hostile culture.
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Oct 19, 2023 22:37
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I've wondered about this but I feel like it's hard for computer-touching to be counterculture when every aspect of our lives involves them fundamentally now, so I hope those would-be hacker ph4aks are out woodworking or something else
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Oct 19, 2023 23:20
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posting in the old hacker thread
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yeah the counterculture thing for youths now is idk playing sports or going outside
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gonna set up a gremcit BBS on dialup for the kids to play TW2002 on
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Bloody posted:yeah the counterculture thing for youths now is idk playing sports or going outside no it’s skibidi toilet, op
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rotor posted:posting in the old hack thread
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the hacker scene these days is all about jailbreaking your game & watch to run nes roms
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rotor posted:posting in the old hacker thread it's actually the thread for old hacks, so uhh carry on
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rotor posted:posting in the old hacker thread
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Oct 23, 2023 16:35
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time marches inexorably on, no moment every truly exists, op
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Bloody posted:yeah the counterculture thing for youths now is idk playing sports or going outside you sound like you know what your talking about. are you a teenager?
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Bloody posted:yeah the counterculture thing for youths now is idk playing sports or going outside jocks suck 
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Oct 26, 2023 01:45
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i used some hex editor to change the name of a drive on my amiga to include a character it shouldn’t have
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Oct 26, 2023 09:28
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echi's amiga became an amigo
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the kids are all rapidly evolving new and horrifying ways to maximise the exploitation of whales in roblox. you merely came to enshittified microtransactions a man grown, they are born of it and molded by it
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went to a defcon local meetup and there were a good number of people (mostly from IVU) rocking what I would consider the 00s aesthetic.
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e: oops, thought this was a continuation of the conversation from another thread
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