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Running up the score is bad in like 7th grade ymca leagues, but at the pro level it’s on the losing team to play better
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dokmo posted:The pacers' defense has somehow allowed opponents to shoot 85% on free throws. i have a theory that when a team gets a bad reputation on defense other teams come in and shoot even highly contested shots at a higher percentage, on top of all the easy buckets the bad defense gives up. knowing the opponent can't play D gives a psychic barrier to even hard contests.
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Running up the score isn't bad in my opinion. However, I think it's bad generally to have a system that is going to force players to play more minutes than they need to play meaninglessly or I guess meaningfully for a point differential when there are in my opinion better ways to handle the tiebreaker. Like having starters in the game in the fourth quarter with a 25 to 30 point lead just because you need to increase the point differential is just begging for someone to eat an injury and generally just putting more minutes on people pointlessly. Like if you run up the score over the course of a game regularly then that's fine to me, but I hate a system that is designed for you to do so. In a game like basketball where there are just so many scoring chances and so many ways for something bad to happen.
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Dec 1, 2023 20:23
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Dec 1, 2023 20:26
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What’s weird is I do t think literally anyone has brought up running up the score as a sportsmanship thing but that’s all people are talking about
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CharlestheHammer posted:What’s weird is I do t think literally anyone has brought up running up the score as a sportsmanship thing but that’s all people are talking about I think Paul George did?
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Dec 1, 2023 20:41
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Papes posted:Running up the score is bad in like 7th grade ymca leagues, but at the pro level it’s on the losing team to play better running up the score is a distinctly american phenomenon; in cricket and soccer it’s even considered rude to stop trying
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Dec 1, 2023 20:44
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CharlestheHammer posted:What’s weird is I do t think literally anyone has brought up running up the score as a sportsmanship thing but that’s all people are talking about Billy Donovan did in the presser https://twitter.com/byjuliapoe/status/1729701854030802957 Frank Vogel said similar things. Booker, Josh Hart, DeRozan, and others have all chimed in. Most players are saying that it was unusual or kinda awkward but the result of the tourny layout. DeRozan actively said it was disrespecting the game. So there's been quite a bit of chatter around it from players/coaches
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Dec 1, 2023 20:50
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The problem with the tiebreaker being quarters won is that it could still end up causing situations where starters are in late despite a game being a blowout, in order to ensure they win the 4th quarter.
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Dec 1, 2023 20:51
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It’s disrespecting the game for the bulls to suck so much
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Dec 1, 2023 21:00
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bam adebayo also came out and said that running up the score at the end of the tourney games hurts the integrity of the NBA which is the first uncool thing I've seen him do in years smh bam
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slave to my cravings posted:It’s disrespecting the game for the bulls to suck so much  haters vacate
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Dec 1, 2023 21:04
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Gobias Ind. posted:The problem with the tiebreaker being quarters won is that it could still end up causing situations where starters are in late despite a game being a blowout, in order to ensure they win the 4th quarter. Yes, but it could also just make it only 1st through 3rd quarters count for points, the 4th doesn't count but a game win is 4 or 5 points. The big issue with quarters as a tie breaker is that it's much easier to tie in total "quarter/win points" than total point differential and you have to come up with some other deciding tie breaker. Currently these are: Total Points (Total PTS) in group stage Prior Seasons Regular Season record If kept, total points would become a more likely tiebreaker and teams would still be pressured to play their stars in the 4th quarter.
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Yeah if we are going to call it a heightened injury risk then sure, that's clearly true. But also who cares? You want to reduce injury risk dramatically? Cut the season in half.
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Dec 1, 2023 21:04
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Make the tie breaker based on smallest point differential so that teams have to flirt with letting opponents back in the game and clutch scoring
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in the majority of sports it is seen as being disrespectful to your opponent to not try to score as much as you can.
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Gobias Ind. posted:The problem with the tiebreaker being quarters won is that it could still end up causing situations where starters are in late despite a game being a blowout, in order to ensure they win the 4th quarter. Thats less likely but at least that'd be fun. It's more interesting to watch two teams actually try to win a quarter than 1 team try to win by 40. I mean, I think this is a small problem overall. Overall the seeding worked. Papercut posted:Make the tie breaker based on smallest point differential so that teams have to flirt with letting opponents back in the game and clutch scoring See this is what I like. Tie breaker is whoever took the fewest free throws.
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Also in Soccer they absolutely pull star players near the end or play prevent keepaway if they have a lead so I don't know where all of this "Holier than Thou" bullshit is coming from. It's the exact same thing.
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Lockback posted:Also in Soccer they absolutely pull star players near the end or play prevent keepaway if they have a lead so I don't know where all of this "Holier than Thou" bullshit is coming from. It's the exact same thing. Usually if a side has a lead of three goals, they'll start pushing forward as normal. Sometimes with a lead of two, but not often. I agree it's a bad analogy and soccer fans are a bit sanctimonious about it.
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Yeah like I said I like it generally, I just think point differential is a bit of a weird tiebreaker. But the Rules are the rules, so I'm not mad at the teams that did it.
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Monty must always have someone who draws his ire. Who was it in NO?quote:There was early word during training camp that Williams’ affinity for Detroit’s pair of rookies, Ausar Thompson and Marcus Sasser, was shoving Ivey onto the backburner.
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maybe Monty sucks at this head coaching thing has anyone considered that
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Aye Doc posted:maybe Monty sucks at this head coaching thing has anyone considered that impossible he's making so much money
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Just trashing Ivey for nothing is such a bad reason. Oh one of the fastest guys with a ball in his hand in the league, who learned how to change speeds last year and looked like a future starting 2 guard, or at very least a great 6th man, now getting no burn at all. We know he couldn't play defense. That's what coaching is for. Just benching him for nothing is obviously not a motivating factor. This also burns detroit in other players eyes, like I don't want to be drafted/sign there. Monty could just start to hate me and gently caress my career up. Monty needs to loving grow up and play his roster
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Dejan Bimble posted:Just trashing Ivey for nothing is such a bad reason. Oh one of the fastest guys with a ball in his hand in the league, who learned how to change speeds last year and looked like a future starting 2 guard, or at very least a great 6th man, now getting no burn at all. Isn't he getting like 22 mpg? My mpg he's their 7th man
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Aye Doc posted:maybe Monty sucks at this head coaching thing has anyone considered that I don't think he's doing a good job right now and I think his last couple months in Phoenix were pretty rough, liked him a lot before that. There was some coach who I saw said the most valuable thing that they ever had was that year after they were fired because it was enough time to see what they did wrong and to absorb new stuff via consulting (plus I'm sure it's a lot easier to be unemployed when you have a muti-million dollar check hitting the bank like most coaches do). Monty just jumped right which in retrospect might have been a mistake but also that's too much money to pass on.
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I'm just gobsmacked he's giving the Ayton treatment immediately to Ivey instead of the more natural and logical choices in Bagley and Wiseman Or...maybe this is his way of showing he's changed???
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WhyteRyce posted:Monty must always have someone who draws his ire. Who was it in NO? The team didn’t have any youngsters back then. AD and Rivers were the youngest.
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Monty likes picking favorites and shunning one stupid bitch. I wonder which member of the pistons he has said could marry his daughter? That was Landry shamet last time
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Basketball is a hard sport to not run up the score because you have to take a shot within 24 seconds and you get a lot of possessions. You can’t start taking shot clock violations until under a minute. Leaving your starters out there to stat pad on the end of another team’s bench would be tacky, but if it’s the end of one bench still outplaying the end of another team’s bench, the scores gonna get worse and there’s nothing you can really do about it.
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Bismack Billabongo posted:Monty likes picking favorites and shunning one stupid bitch. I wonder which member of the pistons he has said could marry his daughter? That was Landry shamet last time https://x.com/omarisankofa/status/1680018583873630208?s=20
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Take My Daughter - Please!
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temple posted:The Heat are like Anton Chigurh getting hit by the car and then some innocent kids help him and he gets away again. lmao
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Giddey's totally normal year continues https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1730608936347119956
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Bismack Billabongo posted:Monty likes picking favorites and shunning one stupid bitch. I wonder which member of the pistons he has said could marry his daughter? That was Landry shamet last time Didn’t shamet get that wild contract and be playoff unplayable
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It’s way more disrespectful to the game that Drummond still can’t hit free throws
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Lockback posted:Isn't he getting like 22 mpg? My mpg he's their 7th man He got like 30 minutes a game for a five minute stretch going back a couple games, which was great. Then he went to 18 and 11 minutes the last couple games. I mean they were actually in the 11 minute game so maybe he's on to something. I think young players need defined roles and not to be messed around with so they can grow comfortable in a role and not have to worry about that.
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Isentropy posted:Didn’t shamet get that wild contract and be playoff unplayable lol basically yes. He had one actual good game in the playoffs last season actually but he was totally awful otherwise. Think it was in the clippers series
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nachos posted:Kyle Lowry is shooting 46% from 3 on 5 attempts a game Draymond Green is shooting 46% from 3 also. As we all expected.
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