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Caidin posted:I never figured out if Thomas Zane created Alan with his writing, or if Alan created TZ with HIS writing, or if the Old Gods of Asgard did with their music, or if somehow they all created each other. I saw a pretty good youtube theory video that proposes the idea that Zane was the original protagonist of the book that the dark presence wanted Wake to write, and his existance is just a holdover from when Alan broke from it's influence and changed the story so that Alan himself became the new protagonist.
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exquisite tea posted:Is that really just a theory? A GAME THEORY I always thought that was the intended interpretation, that Zane was essentially just an earlier draft of Alan before he started writing himself directly into the story. Dunno, I could see how someone could interpret Zane as a real person who discovered the lake before Alan did but failed to escape. The whole reality altering power of the lake kinda fucks up the concept of a true order of events.
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Rookersh posted:The problem is while this interpretation is neat we know from Alan Wake 1/Control that The Presence can't actually create. It can only take/corrupt. It can alter reality, but cannot create new realities. Gonna address your points, but note that I haven't played 2 yet so if the new game contradicts me, I'll simply stand corrected. The first game makes it clear that the Dark Presence, while powerful in it's own right, doesn't wield the ability to alter our reality on it's own. It needs someone from our world with a creative mind to manipulate in order to do so. Otherwise, it could just sit at the typewriter itself and be a god. My interpretation is that the Zane backstory really happened, he was real, tried to resurrect his wife, unleashed the presence, and decided the only solution was to retroactively delete himself from reality, thereby undoing his mistake. Zane is now truly gone. Later, Alan is trapped in the dark place and manipulated into writing a horror story about Zane unleashing the Dark Presence into our world except without the deleting himself part, thereby negating the real Zane's original solution. Alan realizes what is happening and changes course by switching the protagonist from Zane to himself. Therefore, anytime we encounter Zane, it's the fictional version from the previous draft that is helping him, not the real person that ceased existing. This is how Zane can leave Alan the shoebox with the clicker. The real Zane had no way of knowing about that, nor did he shape Alan's entire life by writing a single page about his childhood. Alan wrote that himself and attributed it to Zane as part of the narrative.
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