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Tony Khan's flaws as a booker. 1) Will fight tooth and nail to keep the plan in place even when it's akin to chewing gum for 11 hours straight and expecting it to retain its flavor. 2) WAY too loving fond of Adam Cole. Also too fond of Britt Baker but Britt was the only woman in the division remotely capable of portraying a character on the stick so I can't completely blame him for this one. 3) Gave up on booking shows in advance. You can change the matches if people get injured Tony. That's why we have 'card subject to change' on the tickets. 4) Gives MJF too much TV time which MJF then fills with either 'grabbing apples off the ground' cheap heat or wacky New Generation antics. 5) Is slowly giving way to more and more WWE-isms of which not booking shows in advance is one. (The TV monitors, taking away the ratings, invisible camera man segments). Not a huge deal but how far does this slide go. 6) Seems a bit reluctant to put gender-non conforming wrestlers on TV. He flushed Sonny Kiss down to TNA and has reduced Nyla Rose to a heater in a division that could frankly use more Nyla Rose and a little less everybody else in the division. (Would not be surprised if this was a WB mandate since Tony had no problem making Nyla women's champion in the opening months of Dynamite) 7) Giving hot rookie acts a winning streak out of the gate is great for maintaining their popularity and optics but is terrible for actually teaching them how to grow as performers. (specifically referring to Hook and Jade Cargill here).
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An addendum to my previous statements: 8) Tony can't book a tournament for poo poo. The only good tournaments in the history of AEW were the TBS title tournament (though I will insist that Jade should not have won) and the women's international invitational. This year's Owen wasn't bad either just because the winner was a surprise (never mind how he won). I'm actually amused that Tony tried to Make Jade by feeding her 80% of the women's division just for her to gently caress off to WWE the second her streak ended. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Gumball Gumption posted:Young Bucks are stuck in an endless loop of phoning it in while they either tease breaking up the elite or wrestler FTR. hard agree on this. I'm not the biggest fan of tag wrestling in general (extended Iso tag sequences eat butt) but this company started with the best tag division in possibly any company ever and it was kind of amazing to see.
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CHaKKaWaKka posted:AEW has more great wrestlers now on the roster than they did back when the company started but somehow it feels like the wrestling matches they're having are less interesting. I would have enjoyed the Bucks vs Golden Jets match more if the build for it had not been so weak. Then MJF had a crazy match with Jay White and I could barely get into it because of how dumb the build was. Roderick Strong is now just the guy who yells Adam in a funny way. Toni Storm's a great wrestler with a completely nonsensical gimmick. There are 2 potential problems with the C2. 1) Failing to hype it ahead of time. 2) Tony will book all matches by order of position on the card with no upsets. Like you have Andrade/Danielson/Kingston/Yuta/Garcia/Trent as one pod. The first 3 all go 3-0 against the second 3 instead of something like having Yuta go over Danielson to stir the 'Yuta isn't Danielson's first choice of protege and Yuta knows it' pot. or even having Trent upset Kingston just so Trent can win a singles match ever.
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I can't believe all this time Miro was into that.fawning deference posted:It's pretty strange that AEW did nothing with Miro for so long because of creative differences, and now that he's back we're getting the same tired stuff, except now his wife is managing someone else and he's annoyed by it, but they never explained what their history actually is? He still almost never wrestles. I don't get it It's called 'Miro's optics are completely maintained by winning all the time but Tony doesn't want to put him over anybody who gets TV time so he's stuck spinning his wheels'
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So I don't usually care too much about ratings but Tony saying 'People who want a sports-based product better put their money where their mouth is' Which sounds like 'you better watch this tournament on Collision or I'm going deeper into sports entertainment'
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I figured that Britt was finally taking time off to heal. She had been wrestling hurt for awhile and had lost all the zing to what passes for her fastball, both in and out of the ring. Either way; haven't much missed her. Even if she's only one of a very small handful of women who can carry an actual story.
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AEW tried to make Jade a star. It worked. In a sense. Other than that: I just don't think there are any women in AEW that can be made stars on the level of Rhea or Mercedes. There is a critical deficit of charisma and ability to carry ones self outside of the ring. Outside of Hayter maybe, but she got hella injured.
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I think it's just that his reign is wearing thin and there's not much left to say.
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The Christina/Shayna thing wasn't bad per se but it was cringe. Cringe enough to make me change the channel. Of course given that Swerve is getting cheers being a chickenshit who goes out of their way to be as antagonizing as possible is the only way to get booed in AEW.
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Nobody could be DQed but Nana still would have been fired.
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It's so frustrating that MJF has the DNA of Okada but the heart of Santino Marella.
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I've been prepared for 'TK screws Max out of the title' since Max won the title. I ruled out the possibility when Max turned face and backed off of the Bidding War of 24 stuff. But this angle has not been terribly good at having good ideas.
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The ROH tag title thing would have been fine were it not for Adam Cole's soft, lovely body. ...I feel bad for saying that but I don't know what else to call the body of somebody who has derailed 2 major angles in 2 years with major injuries, one of which was acquired from vaulting over a guardrail.
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I am not so invested in the Righteous that I care if MJF beat them in a handicap match. MJF's problem is that every entertaining thing he does runs too long and kills all interest in it. And that's more Tony's fault for constantly giving him that time.
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C&C are dragging it back to life but it wasn't great before that.
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yea ok posted:none of the devil poo poo still makes any sense considering adam cole had the chance to win the title at All In but decided he didnt want to hurt his friend. thank god it's away from the world title Initially I thought it was Cole having second thoughts about putting friendship above championships but that doesn't work now. So now I guess it can be about Cole getting pissed that his friendship with MJF amounted to nothing but losing the biggest match of his life and getting his career derailed by injury AGAIN.
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Shard posted:Jeff in AEW has been nothing but perfect I will never call anything involving Double J 'Perfect' but it is far better than I thought possible.
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BCC does what they want and what they want to do is violence, particularly violence against people who they feel don't take their jobs seriously enough. Also they're sore losers sometimes.
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Oh right. I thought Moxley was pissed at OC because he beat him but he beat OC THEN got pissed at him.
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Paxman posted:From what I remember Wardlow betrayed MJF - who deserved it for being a dick - and then after some shenanigans he got a match against MJF and beat the crap out of him, and and that was 18 months ago. Because the best revenge is living well. Quite literally in this case. Wardlow HATES that MJF is living well as revenge for getting his rear end beat. I appreciate Wardlow being the one person in pro wrestling who doesn't have goldfish brain and doesn't stop hating somebody just because their program is over. (Actually that happens quite a bit in AEW but Wardlow is more intense about it than most) ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jan 2, 2024 |
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Andrade yes. Shida no. Andrade was speaking English as well but I guess they were concerned about his enunciation and clarity.
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Tony: Hey Jack I noticed the paper copy of your contract got torn up, you want my secretary to mail you another one? Do you have a fax machine?
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The Trios titles are a sacrifice to the sports entertainment gods. Related: If I ever loved The Acclaimed before I sure don't now. Max Caster is a 34 year old 14 year old, Anthony Bowens sure is there and Billy Gunn is a 60 year old man doing his best but his best isn't as good as Sting's best. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Jan 15, 2024 |
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Remember when Malakai beat Cody's rear end so hard that he started talking about retiring and tried to leave his own boots in the ring? Maybe the Billy Gunn thing was a play on that Once upon a time, a very long time ago I saw an animation of a man getting murdered by a bear with shark arms. Upon dying he approached the pearly gates, where a man in a brown robe awaited him in the distance. When he got close the man in the robe was once again, the bear with sharks for arms who again mauled him. That immediately came to mind when I first saw the 'Cody leaves his boots in the ring' segment.
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The figure the bang-bang gang will take it at Revolution or something. This will be a decent upgrade but you're not going to get any genuine bangers when 2/3rds of your team is the Gunns.
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There are a lot of people in AEW overqualified for where they are on the card. Jay is one of them. This isn't because they're getting looked over but rather because there are only so many places on top.
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If nobody put beliefs above bills we wouldn't have Moxley in AEW. That having been said; I doubt Seth would ever become so disgruntled in WWE that he'd take less to work elsewhere. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jan 16, 2024 |
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He's not gonna sniff the world title in AEW even if he jumped. That queue is way too crowded. He's be taking a pay cut AND a demotion.
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I can't believe that the only young pillars that are left are 2 30-somethings. Shut it all down. The pillars are broken, the temple has collapsed.
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Ex said something on Dynamite.
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Big Bill and Ricky Starks are just...not the best tag team. Rick Starks isn't even the best former member of Team Taz that Big Bill has had as a tag partner. As tag champs they disappeared because the tag division has been mostly torn apart outside of FTR. (and now the Young Bucks are back but that came after the fact).
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Didn't HoB goad Trent into hitting them with a chair in full view of the ref once
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A lot of people refuse to job to Best Friends it seems.
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Fire Cash. Dax and Mark Briscoe are the new FTR.
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Beaten Dogs don't stop being beaten dogs because they suddenly find themselves on top. Eddie will never stop seeing himself as an underdog or 'king of the bums' because he spent so long being that that being champion barely feels real to him. He still sees himself as the guy who sucks and has depression. At least on some level.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:BCC killed him because he can’t cut a promo worth a poo poo. Claudio reportedly sweating Wheeler is good at promos but bad at talking because like how Ruby Soho can't cut a promo without sounding like she's going to cry Wheeler can't cut a promo that doesn't sound whiny as hell. Even then it works for his 'weaselly little poo poo that is even called such by his own teammates' thing. The women's division has this problem where most of the women wrestle really same-y (of course there are deviations but not crazy ones) and it makes the matches feel very samey. Deeb and Deona are mat specialists but they need opponents who are the same because neither is Brian Danielson. Also Deeb is only good when she wrestles heel and puts some brutality into her grappling. Right now she is not doing that. Statlander is a power wrestler but even then she's not exactly transcendent at it. Jade had more impressive power spots, and I say this as somebody who was a vocal Jade critic. High fliers? Nope. Real down and dirty brawlers like Moxley? No. Well sorta but they need plunder to reach that level. Like, Toni Storm might be one of the better women's wrestlers in the division but it's like comparing a B- to a B. And almost none of them make up for it with their personalities. That's a big reason why the division revolved around Britt Baker and Jade for so long. Now Toni Storm has found something that works but that's pretty much it. Maybe this is just me. I like my wrestlers to do 3 things: Fly, Talk and Bleed (and toss people around if they're really good at it). And the women's division does not give me much of that at all. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 27, 2024 |
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mooseinfants posted:I kinda feel like Stat is actually a much better power wrestler than Jade She's much more well rounded. CombineThresher posted:This has more to do with how female wrestlers are trained and agented than anything else. Hell, plenty of women in AEW want to do more brawling, but for some reason most of their matches are nothing but spinny reversal sequences they can't pull off well. This is true of most other women's divisions, too; it's not like WWE boasts a variety of styles or gimmicks either. I am not impressed by Willow's power stuff and it hurts me to say that. As far as longer matches matches I don't disagree but I'm remembering Shida vs Ryo Miuzaki and thinking it went 20 minutes and the last 5 was the 'pull out the entire bag of tricks to get the pin' sequence. Which is usually the best part of a wrestling match but it felt like Shida just didn't have anything else so she kept going back to the buzzsaw kick like Kenny doing 200 V-Triggers. (I love Kenny but I consider this the sole weak point in his in-ring game). The women in AEW's women's division are good. I don't think there are any explicitly weak workers (except Madison Rayne who barely wrestlers). But they are good->very good performers in a company with the best men's division the USA, possibly the world has ever constructed and it's hard to take time from them. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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mooseinfants posted:I don't know who is in this core in your opinion but the only person that was involved in a notable hardcore match that's gone is Bunny. Britt/Rosa/Anna/Tay/Ruby/Willow/Penelope are all still there, unless I'm missing someone. Penelope hasn't wrestled in ages. Who knows if Tay will ever come back. Rosa might be a shell of her former self (time will tell). CombineThresher posted:That's fine, but an attempt is being made, is all I'm saying. I'm with you though, and would in general love to see more brawling in the women's division because I think quite a few of them would be good at it. It is. Beyond even power and brawling stuff the idea there are no high flying women's wrestlers completely blows my mind. Not just in AEW, in general. Though I hear Lady Frost is a former gymnast who can do some cool flippy poo poo. Hopefully she'll put that package together because the division needs something like that. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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