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He's probably better then Carr at this point, or at least has potential. Carr is not what you want. He's efficient at not moving the ball, bad guy to have or to watch.
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Kurgarra Queen posted:….are you saying you doubt the incredible brain trust that is Matt Eberflus and Luke Getsy? Yes it is my hot take of the day. Though I do think flus has the defense playing pretty well now. Not well enough to save him, or at least shouldn't be.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Fields is not better than Carr or Baker. Easily better than Carr
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Carr has been similarly hurt and just miserable to watch, at least Fields can fool the defense with a run, Carr ain’t fooling anyone *screen pass to Kamara*
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Give me fields over Carr. Carr is just... godawful, and I'm running out of patience to blame it all on Pete Carmichael
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Carr has played better in the past for much longer stretches than Fields has ever achieved. I'll buy that Fields has a much higher ceiling, but the floor is also the basement.
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Nov 29, 2023 17:11
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Carrs ceiling is 35 attempts for 200yds and a touchdown
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Fields is not better than Carr or Baker.  Just because Fields can do some things those guys can’t doesn’t mean they’re not better on a down to down basis.
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Nov 29, 2023 17:19
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Fields has more passing touchdowns than Carr this season
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Fields is TFFs own draftnik, the grey ghost, number 1 qb prospect of the last decade except for Luck and Lawrence. I have complete faith that Fields will take it to the next level when he’s traded in the offseason for a Darnold-ish package to… oh… let’s say the Buccaneers.
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Fields could be good but the problem now is that all of the coaches that could get the most out of him already have their QBs. He’ll get traded to, like, the Raiders and further stagnate there until he’s out of the league and one of those “if only” players that we talk about a decade from now. He really needed to luck into the right team in the draft but instead he got the Bears.
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Lions should take fields if he's available for peanuts. He's actually younger than hendon hooker haha.
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R.D. Mangles posted:No one who has fields opinions has watched more than one bears game. The Bears have 4 wins right now. Only one of them can actually be attributed to Fields' contributions. The same can be said of the one game Bagent won. Fields is competing for his starting position and it doesn't look good for him. I am excited to see who the Bears draft using Carolina's #1 overall pick, be it a weapon or replacement for Fields. He is not a long term solution until the OC game plans around his skills and and until Fields actually delivers on what works.
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AndrewP posted:
Derek Carr loving sucks this year. He hasn’t always sucked but right now he really does. Worse than Fields.
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Look, Fields may have been bad earlier this season but he's since really learned a lot from UDFA Tyson Bagent.
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Trade Justin Fields to the Los Angeles Rams
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Trade Fields to Vegas and sign Greg Roman to be OC for exactly two years, no more and no less
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Pron on VHS posted:Carrs ceiling is 35 attempts for 200yds and a touchdown  Game Leaders Passing Yards D. Carr OAK D. Carr 40-59, 513 YDS, 4 TD https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup/_/gameId/400874561
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It's best not to think too hard about just-okay quarterbacks. That way lies madness.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Fields better than Baker? Nah, they’re probably at a similar level. Inconsistent with some impressive highs and irritating lows, except Baker turns it over less and is more willing to truck fools. Plus Baker brings good vibes
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Nervous posted:
2016?!
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Pron on VHS posted:2016?! 2016 never really ended, so it's still salient
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Nervous posted:
I remember watching that game on RedZone, wasn't that the one where the Raiders set a record for most penalties committed in a game?
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My favorite Raiders moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VISEvr3c0wg
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Mega64 posted:I remember watching that game on RedZone, wasn't that the one where the Raiders set a record for most penalties committed in a game? 23 penalties for a cool 200 yards
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Scipiotik posted:I honestly think fields is being sabotaged by his coaches, they refuse to run plays he is effective at. Just the typical sign of a coach who won't adapt his offense to the skills of the players he has. maybe he should get better at unblocked wide receiver screens
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Nah, they’re probably at a similar level. Inconsistent with some impressive highs and irritating lows, except Baker turns it over less and is more willing to truck fools. Plus Baker brings good vibes Fields's teammates appreciate him
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Nervous posted:
Mega64 posted:I remember watching that game on RedZone, wasn't that the one where the Raiders set a record for most penalties committed in a game? That box score really hosed me up at first wondering why the game even went to OT but yeah, those penalties...holy poo poo. Fun game though! That entire season was a crazy roller coaster until Carr's leg got broken on literally the only sack that Donald Penn gave up all year long. For all of Carr's faults and bad/mediocre games, at least I'll have that 2016 regular season.
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DariusLikewise posted:Trade Justin Fields to the Los Angeles Rams I’m a Seattle fan and that is my concern. A package like the rams 2nd and 3rd might be enough for Fields. McVay is one of the few coaches I think can help salvage Fields. And Fields has so much talent that could be unlocked. I do not want a decade of McVay and Fields making the nfc west even harder to win. Relentlessboredomm posted:Nah, they’re probably at a similar level. Inconsistent with some impressive highs and irritating lows, except Baker turns it over less and is more willing to truck fools. Plus Baker brings good vibes I would never have expected the take that Fields and Baker are at a similar level. Perhaps I have not watched enough of both qbs.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Carr has played better in the past for much longer stretches than Fields has ever achieved. I'll buy that Fields has a much higher ceiling, but the floor is also the basement. The saints already have the exemplar of high ceiling rock bottom floor talent on the roster.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:My favorite Raiders moment. Best Raiders moment of the last 30~ years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2msmYpNXic
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fartknocker posted:Best Raiders moment of the last 30~ years:  I've never seen this. drat thing is even flying down the field with the coverage unit!
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Hahaha i forgot the commentary. “He’s got great technique, he’s the contain guy!” They’re so genuinely happy watching him
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Ornery and Hornery posted:I’m a Seattle fan and that is my concern. A package like the rams 2nd and 3rd might be enough for Fields. McVay is one of the few coaches I think can help salvage Fields. And Fields has so much talent that could be unlocked. I do not want a decade of McVay and Fields making the nfc west even harder to win. can the Kyle Shanahan offense make use of a running QB? none of his coaching tree have had one afair and not all coaches know how to use those guys, they all seem to use pocket QBs who can do a bootleg or rollout if they need to. I never thought about it before
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indigi posted:can the Kyle Shanahan offense make use of a running QB? none of his coaching tree have had one afair and not all coaches know how to use those guys, they all seem to use pocket QBs who can do a bootleg or rollout if they need to. I never thought about it before I'm just an outside observer but I feel like a dude like McVay would love to try something new. The guy seems like a massive x's and o's nerd and would probably have a blast designing concepts and plays around a guy as mobile as Fields. He's had pocket passers his whole career so... who knows?
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Field sucks but he's been in a lovely situation pretty much forever coaching wise. He's probably going to be a good back up for the next 10 years but I wouldn't want him starting. My teams hosed anyway but still.
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indigi posted:can the Kyle Shanahan offense make use of a running QB? none of his coaching tree have had one afair and not all coaches know how to use those guys, they all seem to use pocket QBs who can do a bootleg or rollout if they need to. I never thought about it before Kyle had one for a game and a half and it wasn’t lookin good
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justin fields is going to be an insanely good quarterback if he ever gets on a competent team
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R.D. Mangles posted:justin fields is going to be an insanely good quarterback if he ever gets on a competent team actually insanely good quarterbacks elevate their team. Stroud had every excuse to be lousy this season but, being insanely good, he has lifted them to competency
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