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We all think the same as Madeley when we get wronged. We just don't have the opportunity to go on telly the next day and yell it, and also like get encouraged to think like even more killing them
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Dec 2, 2023 00:35
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crispix posted:people like richard madeley, jeremy vine and pretty much everyone involved with the guardian are always one nicked phone away from calling for the death penalty lol Wasn't the popular rumour that the main reason the Daily Mail was surprisingly sympathetic to Stephen Lawrence's death and to his family was because Lawrence's father had done some interior decorating for Paul Dacre? Some people really don't have any more morally complex code than "that which benefits me is good, that which harms or even mildly inconveniences me is evil"
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Dec 2, 2023 00:37
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If you think petty theft deserves hanging that's more a you thing I'm afraid. I've been mugged and my worst desire was that they get a longer sentence.
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Dec 2, 2023 00:38
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I often think that most people work that way, to be honest.
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Dec 2, 2023 00:38
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:Wasn't the popular rumour that the main reason the Daily Mail was surprisingly sympathetic to Stephen Lawrence's death and to his family was because Lawrence's father had done some interior decorating for Paul Dacre? Yeah, exactly that. Which was shockingly progressive given Dacre's general view on ethnic minorities. Or any minorities really.
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Dec 2, 2023 00:39
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Tesseraction posted:If you think petty theft deserves hanging that's more a you thing I'm afraid. I've been mugged and my worst desire was that they get a longer sentence. Bollocks
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Dec 2, 2023 00:41
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It's not petty theft. It's a direct attack on you. And that can never be forgiven. It's the same way posters in this thread have decreed that thinking things different to the way they think things should be a death sentence.
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Dec 2, 2023 00:44
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Thinking some things differently to me will be a death sentence regardless of my opinion on the matter.
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Dec 2, 2023 00:47
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100% of people of think, die
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Dec 2, 2023 00:51
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kecske posted:100% of people of think, die exactly
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Dec 2, 2023 00:53
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NotJustANumber99 posted:It's not petty theft. It's a direct attack on you. And that can never be forgiven.
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Dec 2, 2023 00:55
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:Wasn't the popular rumour that the main reason the Daily Mail was surprisingly sympathetic to Stephen Lawrence's death and to his family was because Lawrence's father had done some interior decorating for Paul Dacre?
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Dec 2, 2023 00:59
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Jesus posted:38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 But that's you bitches. If any motherfucker tries that poo poo on Me, I'll crucify them My Goddamn self. cat botherer fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Dec 2, 2023 |
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Dec 2, 2023 01:02
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forkboy84 posted:It's true, there are zero examples in history of people being attacked and then later forgiving their attacker. lol. do you think thats like my thoughts or like...
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Dec 2, 2023 01:07
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I've been the victim of GBH and the perpetrator wasn't caught. I didn't want him to go to jail for a long sentence (I was basically fine once the headache and swelling wore off) but I wanted him to suffer some sort of consequence, otherwise where's the incentive to stop committing GBH? I've also been mugged a couple of times and it's upsetting in the short term and really loving annoying beyond that, but - again - the perps don't deserve serious jail time for that. Earlier this year, I was knocked off my bike by a driver who was 100% in the wrong. But I didn't notify the police because despite it being the van driver's fault, where's the benefit in the driver experiencing hardship for something that very much seemed to be a complete accident? Low-effort/quality trolls, though, definitely deserve to at least have their hands cut off. I was going to suggest "kneecapping", but that'd just give them more reason to stay at home and contribute to climate change.
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Dec 2, 2023 01:26
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NotJustANumber99 posted:lol. do you think thats like my thoughts or like... I dunno what else "can never be forgiven" means (You said a silly hyperbolic statement and I decided to take it at face value for humours sake)
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Dec 2, 2023 01:30
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I've committed assaults against people on a few occasions and fortunately never had to deal with the consequences.
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Dec 2, 2023 01:35
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I've committed assaults against people on a few occasions and fortunately never had to deal with the consequences. Did they deserve it?
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Dec 2, 2023 01:53
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Jakabite posted:Did they deserve it? They complained that his Tesla on full self driving swerved directly into them
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Dec 2, 2023 02:00
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Previous posts answering one another
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Dec 2, 2023 02:05
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I've committed assaults against people on a few occasions and fortunately never had to deal with the consequences. Every time you post it's an assualt  But to take it seriously; NotJustANumber99 posted:We all think the same as Madeley when we get wronged. We just don't have the opportunity to go on telly the next day and yell it, and also like get encouraged to think like even more killing them We don't all think the same as him (I've been mugged and I wouldn't have gone further than saying the guy needed a hiding) but even if we did, it doesn't matter, because societies have spent thousands of years codifying criminal laws, delineating specific limits for punishment and sentencing, establishing courts, figuring out how to ensure judges (and later, juries) are as impartial as possible, precisely because we need that to be administered by people removed from the incident and with no connections to anyone involved. This is because dealing with crime based on the outrage of victims (Or worse, the public) is a really bad idea, and doing so based on sober reflection at some remove is a less bad idea. Note that I do not argue we succeed in most of those things, and I don't think the system we have is a good one even if we did, but the mere fact we make the attempt (Or pretense if you're more cynical) rather than just arresting the bloke and asking Madeley "Where do you want the gallows set up mate?" shows we're pretty well devoted to not having it governed by vengeance.
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Dec 2, 2023 02:05
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people in this thread have called for my death on several occasions for having the wrong car or being a landlord. But gently caress... some silly oval office on itv or wherever the gently caress he is means something
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Dec 2, 2023 02:13
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being a landlord is much worse for society than nicking a celebrity's phone tbf.
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Dec 2, 2023 02:24
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NotJustANumber99 posted:people in this thread have called for my death on several occasions for having the wrong car or being a landlord. But gently caress... some silly oval office on itv or wherever the gently caress he is means something Nicking a celebrity's phone is a victimless crime OP, being a landlord or driving a car (let us be clear, there is no right car) are not. Hope that helps.
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Dec 2, 2023 02:30
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forkboy84 posted:Nicking a celebrity's phone is a victimless crime OP, being a landlord or driving a car (let us be clear, there is no right car) are not. Hope that helps. one worthy of death?
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Dec 2, 2023 02:33
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forkboy84 posted:Nicking a celebrity's phone is a victimless crime By the way it isnt. i'ts often a threat of violence. And if you want to debate the hierarchy of violence... then oh dear
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Dec 2, 2023 02:36
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Are you actually a landlord or do you mean you've erected a horrible attempt at a throne on your purchased rectangle and call yourself Njanninetynine, First of His Name?
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Dec 2, 2023 03:26
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I kinda do want them to set up some gallows the next day and be like, "yep, we caught him Mr Madeley. We're moving the good morning set to the execution room. 10am right after the weather?" And just see if he doubles down or admits that he's a twat and didn't mean it. Except that's pretty much how we'd get the televised hunger games isn't it. I mean for fucks sake. Any mild inconvenience that let's them be all decorum like they're on the right side of an issue and they turn into the dishwasher loading lady from the oatmeal. 
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Dec 2, 2023 03:36
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I was mugged once, sort of. I was very confused, and I think overall I would like it if he was stopped from doing it to anyone else. I just don't think that at the moment, there are really any systems in our society that are able to do that.
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Dec 2, 2023 05:11
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Rich dude gets mugged. He can a) Blame the society that he personally has been successful in, bringing his own self-worth into question or b) Blame the individual who violated his privilege and go to bed safe in the knowledge that he deserves whatever the gently caress it is that he thinks he has.
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Dec 2, 2023 06:00
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I was mugged once, sort of. I was very confused, and I think overall I would like it if he was stopped from doing it to anyone else. I just don't think that at the moment, there are really any systems in our society that are able to do that. The thing to note here is that you jumped to 'things should be different' rather than 'I deserve better'.
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Dec 2, 2023 06:29
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I was mugged one time (1999ish) - been out for a curry in Mile End so I was full of curry & lager. The kid (about 15/16 yo) jumped on my back, ripped my backpack off and ran off with it. I gave chase but he was quite fast for me, a couple of guys joined the chase and caught him but they wouldn't let me touch him. He's still in counselling. Lessons learned (by mugger): Don't mug women with the entire Water Margin & several seasons of Xena Warrior Princess on tape. Anyway, we all were hoiked off to Chingford nick in a convoy of cop cars. Turns out he was doing work experience at that nick and knew where all the CCTV didn't point (he mugged me just round the corner from the CCTV). I was shaken (I didn't realize how much til I had to come home the same way the next night and some arsehole bloke decided to follow me for a laugh. He's also still in counselling.) I did feel sorry for his mum though when she turned up at the nick. The statement was funny - cop says to me "and what did you say to him" I said "I screamed in his face - give me back my bag you bastard" and the cop wrote that I said "please give me back my bag". Did get my bag back with my flat keys and phone - else I would have been locked out with no means of communication on a cold & frosty night. Bobby Deluxe posted:I was mugged once, sort of. I was very confused, and I think overall I would like it if he was stopped from doing it to anyone else. I just don't think that at the moment, there are really any systems in our society that are able to do that. Yes - I did meet a woman a few months later who had been mugged in exactly the same place in almost exactly the same manner (probably by the same perp) and she was terrified and hadn't gone out of her home alone for months. So yeah- if there had been someway of stopping the little poo poo from doing it again, that would have been good. But locking a 16yo up in prison is not, I'm sure, the right answer. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Dec 2, 2023 |
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Dec 2, 2023 06:33
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I had my phone nicked by a moped driver and I briefly hoped he'd crash but that's about it.
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Dec 2, 2023 08:48
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I don't think we should kill people for doing crimes but I also think we can extend a little grace to people who have been victims of crimes expressing anger and upset having anything stolen from you is not simply a minor inconvenience, let alone something with personal info like a phone. jesus christ thread
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Dec 2, 2023 09:09
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killerwhat posted:If it’s not below freezing, this works well and quickly: pour warm tap water over the windows to melt the frost. Then use the wipers and screen wash - it’s got antifreeze in it. I'm fine using the scraper on the windscreen, it's waiting for the engine to get hot enough to blow warm enough air to demist the inside. Where I live they have these bright-rear end white LED street lamps and if there's any condensation inside, when they shine through you can see absolutely nothing.
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Dec 2, 2023 09:32
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The Question IRL posted:I started my car a good five minutes before I was going to leave the house to defrost it. All that tech, you would have thought there would be a 'its freezing today so just switch on and run until engine is hot' button.
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Dec 2, 2023 09:40
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NotJustANumber99 posted:one worthy of death? Yes, clearly. NotJustANumber99 posted:By the way it isnt. i'ts often a threat of violence. And if you want to debate the hierarchy of violence... then oh dear Richard Madeley does wrongthink and therefore loses his personhood therefore robbing him is victimless. QED
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Dec 2, 2023 10:04
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His Divine Shadow posted:It's not good for cars to be started cold, also bad for fuel economy and the environment to leave them running while cold. We're thinking of getting one, the fuel consumption when we start driving on a cold day is noticeably much, much higher and there are a lot of cold days. I thought it was nice in Finland how almost every car park has a place to plug your heater block in, that is much less common in Norway. We'd need to figure out how to get power to our driveway though.
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Dec 2, 2023 10:08
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I wish death or severe misfortune on people who drive recklessly, especially if I've got my kids in the car with me. Like, at the time at least, I have a genuine desire that the person that nearly killed me and my family gets in a terrible car accident which harms them and only them. So, I guess I thirst for vengeance, but in such a way that it's self inflicted by the guilty party. Is that OK?
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Dec 2, 2023 10:16
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Guavanaut posted:They're more underground than the Albanian ones, but about the same size. Now this is an ideology I can get behind / inside.
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