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Apr 19, 2007

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serious gaylord posted:

Lmao speaker is now offering a do over so the SNP can put their motion through today???

https://twitter.com/AmielBakshi/status/1760646721455968668

I love this hosed up country.

I don't know if that does put it back to square one. Part of the impact of the SNP motion was that it would have been voted on first--now that parliament has technically passed Labour's motion, it'll be a lot easier I think for the Labour party to keep its MPs from rebelling to vote for the SNP motion.

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Apr 19, 2007

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Bobby Deluxe posted:

Seems like a big difference between that (a person who was venting about actually having threatened a dog that merely looked like it might attack) and what Jakabite posted (a theoretical thing that's rumoured to be something you could do if a dog attacked you).

Although it's my suspicion that in most cases you'd more likely permanently injure the dog giving it a slow, agonising death, as opposed to the 'instant takedown' the urban legend implies. (Spoilered for description of animal cruelty just in case).

We probably just got hit by a driveby mod who didn't really take in the context.

I don't think we're really saying different things here--my point is more that it's an inflammatory topic where the context is easily twisted or wiped away.

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Apr 19, 2007

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Failed Imagineer posted:

I guess if I'm going to post that poll a few days ago about Labours polling lead slipping, I should at least post the counterfactual update today

https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1760660509039177941?t=HML9w-zEPCxIw2GjnO4sqg&s=19

Tories in their rightful place as the 4th largest party lol

Lots of these polls suggest Glasgow will swing back to Labour, and I do think that's plausible, but I wonder how much all this loving about on Gaza is going to affect that. I know for me this whole business has convinced me to vote SNP again when previously I was considering not voting/spoiling my ballot, and I wonder how many others are thinking the same thing.

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Apr 19, 2007

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As someone terminally out of the loop I'd never heard the term "ricer" before so when the thread said it was offensive I assumed it was making fun of how some hypothetical group might pronounce "racer".

OwlFancier posted:

Also fuctifino that looks like popcorn chicken.

I was thinking crunchy nut clusters

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Apr 19, 2007

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Magnetic North posted:

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, and that I'm a few days behind. I've been trying to learn about the Parliament fracas that happened this week, and the typical places I go for British political talk are mostly Labour supporters, and the centrist-leaning ones didn't go into much depth. While I trust their intellectual honesty, I'm trying to take their perspective with a grain of salt.

Were the SNP just mad because Hoyle was (by convention) supposed to pick the government's amendment amendment? That would have put Labour in a bind because they has party members that would vote for anything calling for a ceasefire, even to the point of resigning shadow cabinet positions. By picking their amendment, Labour could get on board and therefore the SNP lost a critical chance to show division in Labour. Is that it? Or is there something more substantial about the actual Gaza issue there? Also, I don't understand why this requires the SNP to also put out an amendment? Or were they not expecting a Tory amendment?

I think others have mostly covered it but if you'd like a procedural breakdown of what went wrong I posted it a few pages back:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=4048510&pagenumber=276&perpage=40#post537927968

tl;dr the entire point of opposition day is that the opposition party running the show gets special rules put in place to make sure that votes happen on their motions before amendments are done to force other MPs to put their views on the question on record. The procedure being changed here, combined with the conservatives walking out, meant the SNP motion would not be voted on. It also put the SNP in what they described as an "intolerable" position where they had said they'd vote for Labour's amendment if their own unamended version couldn't pass, but now voting for Labour's amendment would essentially be voting against their unamended motion, because it's passage would delete their text before it ever went to a vote (which is exactly what happened).

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Apr 19, 2007

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Have they changed Flamin Hot monster munch so they suck now? I picked up a bag and they're now labelled "sweet & spicy flamin hot", they don't taste the same and they're smaller too.

A tragic outcome.

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Apr 19, 2007

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bessantj posted:

Is Galloway far left?

Galloway is a self-serving narcissist but the platform he campaigns on is pretty solidly traditional old labour socialism. And for all his faults I do think he believes in those principles.

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