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Where We’re At: 3. (Goat’s Horror Noire) Jordan Peele’s Nope vs. 11. Lucio Fulci’s The House by the Cemetery 4. Tobe Hooper’s Djinn vs. 5. (Goat’s Team Zombie aka the New and Improved Knockoffs of the Living Dead) Dan O’Bannon’s Return of the Living Dead You can vote in this round until 12 noon EST May 27th (or when I get to it) Next Week! 1. Steve's Monster Blockbusters vs. 8. 100% Found Footage 2. The Zombie Brothers vs. 10. Monsters, Monsters, and More Monsters ---------------------------------------------- I'm sick, I'm in pain, I'm exhausted... but I'm still nuts so doing this.  Ok, we're back. I'm running late on this since the last few weeks have been hell for me and I'm recovering from a cold and just general exhaustion. But I gotta get this started. I'm also gonna try and simplify this and make it less completely insane seeming. I'll do my best. For anyone new or previously scared off by this, fear not. Its actually much simpler than it seems. We put together a tournament bracket of teams of films/directors and through the first 9 months of 2024 I'll just draw 4 new films each week that we'll watch, discuss, and vote on. Its that simple and you can participate as much or little as you want. Just come around every week for the new movies when you want to. The complicated part happens now as we make up our bracket. To state it simply we nominate individual directors and teams of directors and then vote to see who makes the cut. The teams are made up by posters using directors who don't have enough movies of their own or to feed some kind of theme. Basically a director needs 6 movies or he has to be on a team. And we don't reuse movies so the 575 films we've watched the last 4 years aren't eligible. So far two solo directors (Ken Russell and John Carpenter) and two teams (twernt's Spooky Swinging Sixties and MacheteZombie’s The One n Dones) have won so its anyone’s game really. Ok, this is the complicated part. Nominations Everyone is free to nominate any solo director with 6 or more movies at any time. Anyone who had teams in last year’s tournament can renominate up to 5 teams at any time. Once we start our “draft” posters can nominate new teams or add to existing teams once a day. Is that simple enough? Teams can be any number of directors who have 6 movies with a soft cap of 10. By “soft” i mean if your idea takes you over it and no one objects then its cool. But we’re trying not to hoard movies/directors so there is a limit. Any movies drawn in past tourneys are ineligible. You can find these movies on the spreadsheet or Letterboxd Master List, links at the bottom of this post. We play loose with what defines a “horror”. Thrillers are allowed and if you feel strongly about something else then we’ll let voting decide. Generally if you don’t give me a list of movies I’ll go by what Letterboxd lists as horror but that’s pretty arbitrary. Anthologies and short films are a grey area. You can include them if you want but you don’t need to. If a film is unreleased, lost, or otherwise impossible to watch you can skip it. Does that make sense? I can expand as I have in past years but I think consensus is I tend to over do it and make it too confusing. Hopefully this is simpler and easier to digest and less intimidating. In past years we had a “council” of posters who would grant byes to nominees. Last year someone suggested we give one bye to everyone who nominates a team so I’m doing that this year. No council, but if you nominate a team or director then you can pick a nominee to get a bye into the tournament past the initial voting process. You can give that bye to anyone including your own team and at any time before the voting begins. I’ll keep a list of everyone here. Byes STAC Goat - Wes Craven Darthemed - Ratno Timoer Kangra - Team Japanese Whimsy twernt - Wyrd Woods and Macabre Magick married but discreet - Takashi Miike Basebf555 - The Magical Muppet Wizardry of Jim Henson and Friends Class3KillStorm - Steve's Monster Blockbusters Weapon X - The Zombie Brothers Samfucius - I Ain't Never Seen This Before And finally our first entry into the tournament was decided by the HalloweeNIT and its married but discreet’s Older Than America team. So that’s 1 slot down and 63 to go. I hope all this makes sense but if you any questions simply ask. Important Dates Subject to change
2020: Franchise Tournament Thread / Franchise Letterboxd List / Directors Tournament Thread / Directors Letterboxd List 2021: Thread / Spreadsheet / Letterboxd List / HalloweeNIT Letterboxd List 2022: Thread / Spreadsheet / Letterboxd List / HalloweeNIT Letterboxd List 2023: Thread / Spreadsheet / Letterboxd List / HalloweeNIT ’23 Letterboxd List 2024: Thread / Spreadsheet / Letterboxd List Cumulative: Letterboxd Master List STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 17:01 on May 20, 2024 |
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Dec 4, 2023 14:34
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In the name of illustration I'll start the nominations again. John Carpenter got his win last year so maybe its Wes' turn. Wes Craven Scream A Nightmare on Elm Street Scream 2 Scream 4 Scream 3 New Nightmare The Hills Have Eyes The Serpent and The Rainbow Swamp Thing Vampire in Brooklyn My Soul to Take Deadly Blessing Deadly Friend Chiller Invitation to Hell
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Dec 4, 2023 14:47
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Darthemed posted:Those are all of his films as the sole director. He’s also contributed to anthology films (e.g., The ABCs of Death), but also some multi-director full-length features (e.g., Mutant Girls Squad). Could we go ahead and get a ruling on how those latter types of films should be handled in nominations? The way we did it last year it’s your call. If you think it’s representative of the director’s work then you can include it. If it’s one 3 minute entry of a 25 bit film. Well that’s your call. But I’d say as always follow your judgment and listen if anyone objects.
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Dec 4, 2023 18:41
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married but discreet posted:Ok here are 4 team renominations. Didn't check if they still have enough movies, but it looks like Goat did? All your teams seem to have enough based on what's left over from last year (but yes you can still add to then, once a day when the "draft" starts). But Ngai Choi Larn seems to be down to 5 listed horrors after last year.
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Dec 5, 2023 14:36
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I’m pushing back the start time of the “draft” portion until the 7th. Just to give people more time to catch up. I’m rushing this faster than I’d like but there’s a bit of a time crunch for a week of noms, a week of voting, and a week for me to put everything together. And I’m dragging hard due to real life stuff so I don’t want to crunch things too much. But it feels like people are trickling in so I want to give them a bit more time.
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Dec 6, 2023 04:10
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Ok Renominating some teams - The Magical Muppet Wizardry of Jim Henson and Friends (Jim Henson, Joe Dante, Frank Oz, Kirk R. Thatcher, Karl Holt, Bill Watterson, Lisa Ovies, and Walter Murch) Labyrinth Gremlins Little Shop of Horrors The Stepford Wives Muppets Haunted Mansion Dave Made a Maze Puppet Killer Benny Loves You - All Hail Stephen King (Stephen King, Ralph S. Singleton, Rob Reiner, Taylor Hackford, Fraser Clarke Heston, and John Lee Hancock) Maximum Overdrive Graveyard Shift Misery Dolores Claiborne Needful Things Mr. Harrington's Phone - Guillermo del Toro’s Cabinet of Curiosities (Guillermo del Toro, André Øvredal, JA Bayone, and David Prior) Cronos Crimson Peak Hellboy II: The Golden Army Pacific Rim Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom The Empty Man The Autopsy Adding The Voyage of the Demeter to Ovredal’s filmography - Horror Noire (Paul Maslansky, Ernest R. Dickerson, Rusty Cundieff, J.D. Dillard, Nia DaCosta, Mariama Diallo, and Jordan Peele) Nope Candyman (2021) Tales from the Hood Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight Dr. Black, Mr. Hyde Sugar Hill Sweetheart Master - Ladies Night (Emerald Fennell, Natalie Erika James, Jill Gevargizian, Mimi Cave, and Coralie Fargeat) Promising Young Woman Relic The Stylist Revenge Fresh Gonna need a lot of adds but locking those ones in for now. Also adding Fennell’s Saltburn
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Dec 6, 2023 16:35
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twernt posted:I have one last overly specific team.
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Dec 7, 2023 06:19
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As said, draft starts 12 noon EST Dec 7th. About 11 1/2 hours from now. At that point you can nominate any team you like as long as they haven't been nominated already this year. You can add to teams you renominated from last year as well. But you can only do 1 team a day. After a week the "draft" will end and you can do as many as you wish. For now its limited to one a day so people don't hog all the directors.
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Dec 7, 2023 06:23
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I’m on my phone and I’m totally unprepared and still a mess irl so I’ll make my first pick simply. I’m adding Killer Klowns from Outer Space and Ernest Scared Stupid to the Henson/Muppet team.
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Dec 7, 2023 19:47
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I think Zombie’s brother made a movie so I was tempted to put them together. Of course I was also tempted to team Zombie with Mike Flanagan for a laugh.
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Dec 7, 2023 20:12
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Herzog’s Nosferatu was also drawn this year so not eligible. Sorry.
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Dec 7, 2023 23:39
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WeaponX posted:My other fav James Wan is under 6 films so I’d like to introduce Teamsidious- the collected films of directors in the Insidious Franchise. I'm pro theme and its part of why there's a "soft cap" so I vote you can just include Wilson's in the name of synergy and him not finding a better home than this.
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Dec 9, 2023 04:05
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Meanwhile I remain a completely unprepared mess and have no idea what to nominate or how to build my teams so... uh... adding Tim Story’s The Blackening and Bomani J. Story’s The Angry Black Girl and Her Monster to Horror Noire.
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Dec 9, 2023 04:23
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Friendly reminder. Don’t make nominations in edits. Not as some kind of rule or anything but because I keep track of this by going post by post and adding to the spreadsheet. So if you edit a post after I’ve been there I have no idea and lose all track. Also always good to double check to make sure your noms have been registered. Just give me a chance but feel free to double check my work if I miss something. Speaking of… WeaponX posted:My sweet boy Robert Zombie is at 5 and he still has his 4 best movies! (and Superbeasto….) He has a lot of frequent collaborators but none of them directors however there is one director who has put a Rob Zombie cameo in every single one of his films, James Gunn. So I’d like to team them up as Zombie Gunn. I think Slither feels at home with Zombies filmography anyway. Unfurtunately a double check says Slither has been played. So Zombie needs to find someone else.
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Dec 10, 2023 01:44
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Oh, yeah. I should pick someone. Uhh... Renominating The Enemies of Horror (Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson, Amy Seimetz, and Brea Grant) I guess. Endless Resolution She Dies Tomorrow Synchronic Sun Don’t Shine Torn Hearts Something in the Dirt
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Dec 10, 2023 15:43
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Darthemed posted:Nominating Team Snoopernatural, a sextet of movies about investigations that get weird. David Prior is on GdT's Cabinet of Curiosities. Sorry.
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Dec 10, 2023 15:55
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married but discreet posted:New Team: Adams Family Values - John Adams, Zelda Adams and Barry Sonnenfeld You're gonna have to be more specific here since Sonenfeld doesn't even have any horrors listed and the first two have over 10 counting their shorts (which you can skip if you wish). Like I guess the Addams Family movies and the features from the other two?
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Dec 10, 2023 16:48
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Ladies Night (Emerald Fennell, Natalie Erika James, Jill Gevargizian, Mimi Cave, and Coralie Fargeat) Promising Young Woman Relic The Stylist Revenge Fresh Saltburn Adding Beth de Araújo’s Soft & Quiet Adding Ana Asensio’s Most Beautiful Island Adding Anvita Dutt’s Bulbbul
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Dec 11, 2023 15:11
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WeaponX posted:Christophe Gans
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Dec 11, 2023 15:45
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Bracketology Redux was a bit of a joke idea for me last year but it turned out to make one the best runs of any of my teams ever. Go figure. So time to restock it with more remakes of films we've already seen in Bracketology and see whether they do better or worse. Bracketology Redux (Kenneth Branagh, Spike Lee, ) Mary Shelley's Frankenstein Oldboy Adding Egidio Coccimiglio’s Compulsion Alex Kurtzman’s The Mummy Matt Sobel’s Good Night Mommy Steve Beck’s Thirteen Ghosts and Ghost Ship Even if twernt's remake team is basically like all Redux films too making me feel redundant. What can you do?
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Dec 12, 2023 05:16
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I updated the 2023 nominees list to remove those who have been renominated. Mostly. Should make it easier to see who's still available. We've seen a bunch of him as an actor, seen a bunch of films he's produced, but still haven't managed to get him in as a director. Maybe this is the year... Larry Fessenden Habit Wendigo Depraved The Last Winter Beneath No Telling Blackout Tempted to include Return of The Ghoul Log
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Dec 12, 2023 06:46
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Samfucius posted:Oh wild. I nominated this exact team last year too
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Dec 12, 2023 17:28
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Also a quick update. I adjusted the schedule a bit. We'll keep this one team a day thing going until Friday the 15th and noon EST. Then through the weekend everyone can nominate as much as they want. Nominations will lock at 12 noon EST Monday the 18th. Then I'll get a vote together and we'll do that until after Christmas. Sound good? Sound clear?
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Dec 12, 2023 17:38
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Basebf555 posted:Was there an issue with this team I posted earlier? Just noticed that it hadn't made it onto the spreadsheet. I just missed it. Sorry.
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Dec 12, 2023 18:05
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There is a small problem. twernt grabbed Hymans/Relic. But you have enough films without it.twernt posted:Directors who are also responsible for various 1990s Jean Claude Van Damme action movies
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Dec 12, 2023 18:12
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Ok I was up all night with a fever which I guess is what I needed to finally brainstorm a new team. I was gonna poach Ti West for this team but alas. I’m gonna group up today’s headlining Scream Queens. Samara Weaving, Jenna Ortega, Mia Goth, Anya Taylor Joy. Its a new generation killing it like we haven’t seen in generations. May they reign long. Matt Bettinelli-Olpin and Tyler Gillett Ready or Not Scream (2022) Scream VI Devil’s Due McG The Babysitter The Babysitter: Killer Queen Brandon Cronenberg Infinity Pool Antiviral Mark Mylod The Menu Sergio G. Sánchez Marrowbone
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Dec 12, 2023 18:15
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Another reminder, if you've made a nomination it means you get a BYE you can give to any nominee past the voting and into the Field of 64. You have to get those in before nominations lock so don't forget. I'm gonna take one for the first time and give it to Wes Craven. He probably doesn't need it but this year was Carpenter's year so maybe next will be Wes'. I'll give him a head start for it. Byes STAC Goat - Wes Craven Darthemed Kangra twernt married but discreet Basebf555 Class3KillStorm Weapon X Samfucius
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Dec 12, 2023 18:24
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WeaponX posted:While I consider my bye, got another team The problem I see is missing films. Eisner has Hobo with A Shotgun, Dullifield has Spontaneous, and Kostanski has Leprechaun Returns, Fathers Day, and Manborg.
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Dec 12, 2023 20:48
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WeaponX posted:Verotika needs to be seen, or uh, experienced.
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Dec 14, 2023 01:14
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Renominating The REC Dudes (Jaume Balagueró and Paco Plaza) [REC] [REC]² Sleep Tight [REC]⁴ Apocalypse Darkness The Nameless Venus Muse To Let [REC]³ Genesis The Grandmother Romasanta: The Werewolf Hunt Sister Death A Christmas Tale Eye For an Eye Freddy Second Name El Telivisor Its a lot of movies but they're linked and a bunch of those are tv films I'm not sure I'll be able to find.
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Dec 14, 2023 17:55
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You know. Someone should probably nominate Alfred Hitchcock. He did make the finals.
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Dec 14, 2023 20:27
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Reminder. The “draft” ends today at noon. After that you can nominate as many teams as you wish. And nominations will lock on Monday. So make sure to pick your byes before then.
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Dec 15, 2023 13:30
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Reminder, the draft portion is now over. You're free to nominate as many as you wish. But nominates will lock in 48 hours on Monday Dec 18th noon EST. So get them in now. Also very important, if you have a BYE get it in by then. Can't start the nomination vote until those are locked in. Well we can but it gets messier. If you made a nomination and I don't have you on this list that's my mistake, just go ahead and make your pick anyway. Byes STAC Goat - Wes Craven Darthemed - Ratno Timoer Kangra twernt married but discreet Basebf555 - The Magical Muppet Wizardry of Jim Henson and Friends Class3KillStorm Weapon X Samfucius
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Dec 16, 2023 18:08
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Just about 24 hour left to get any last minute nominations, tweaks to teams, or your byes in. 12 noon EST Monday Dec 18th,,, round or about depending on how insane that day is for me. Which judging from recent it will be crazy. But my goal is to get the vote together ASAP so we can get a full week of voting in. Byes STAC Goat - Wes Craven Darthemed - Ratno Timoer Kangra - Team Japanese Whimsy twernt married but discreet Basebf555 - The Magical Muppet Wizardry of Jim Henson and Friends Class3KillStorm Weapon X Samfucius - I Ain't Never Seen This Before
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Dec 17, 2023 17:31
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I'm gonna tweak a few teams. I'm adding John Power's The Tommy Knockers to All Hail Stephen King. I'm giving Guillermo del Toro’s Cabinet of Curiosities a slight overhaul. Really just adding films from people already on the team. I'm gonna add GdT's Pinochio even if I have no idea if its at all horrory. And Nightmare Alley since we allow thrillers. They're both in the grey area we allow but it feels right to include them to get GdT's full list in. I'm also adding Scott Cooper’s The Pale Blue Eye and Guillermo Navarro's The Lot. That takes me to 12 but I'm gonna assume no one is wanting for any of these scragglers unless anyone objects?
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Dec 17, 2023 17:50
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Darthemed posted:Solo director nominations
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Dec 18, 2023 04:41
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I'm renominating Servoret's Lewton Bus (Jacques Tourneur, Robert Wise, and Mark Robson). Because it is a bad rear end team. And it was mine the year before anyway. So it works out. And no one nominated them so I can't help myself. This is just unfair but its actually got a theme. Team Zombie (Sam Raimi, James Whale, Dan O Bannon, George Romero, and Edgar Wright) Aka The New and Improved Knockoffs of the Living Dead Evil Dead Bride of Frankenstein Return of the Living Dead Night of the Living Dead Survival of the Dead Shaun of the Dead The World's End STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Dec 18, 2023 |
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Dec 18, 2023 05:06
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Ok I think that’s all byes in so consider nominations locked. I’ll get a vote together as soon as I can on another busy day.
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Let's Vote! I think everything's set up right. I basically copied the poll from last year and made the necessary changes, cleared the fields, and put in our new fields. I did a quick troubleshoot vote myself and picked up a few mistakes but its looking ok now? Let me know if you see a problem so I can fix it quickly. The plan as usual is to fill most of the field but do some playins for the last spots. We'll see how the math plays out. 113 nominees in total. Down from last year's 141 but still with plenty of options and nearly twice the field we'll ultimately have in 64. But it does mean more of your nominations will make the tournament this year so that's good. Once again I broke the voting pool into 4 categories. Veterans, Rookies, Solo, and Team. Each nominee should be in two of those categories and you'll be able to vote for up to 20 in each one. That should hopefully make it easier to sort through the fields and give nominees a chance to break out from the pool and we get a spread of nominees. It also lets you strategically vote if you wish. There's 41 Veterans 65 Rookies 46 Solo Directors 60 Teams That probably gives Solo Directors and Veterans a slight edge over rookies and teams in the nomination process? Alternatively it might make it harder if you nominated more vets/solos than rookies/teams? Like most of my teams are veteran teams so I'm probably not gonna get as many through as if some of them were over in solo, right? But its pretty close and you can still only vote for less than half of the field. So hopefully you'll still have to get mad because you ran out of votes. Voting will stay open until Dec 26th, noon EST. Day after Christmas. That should give us about a week and you'll have a little hangover time post Christmas if you forget. It also should hopefully give me enough time to get the tournament together my New Years. I've mentioned it vaguely but things are pretty crazy for me right now and a loved one has been having health problems and is scheduled for surgery the last week of the year. So knock on wood everything will work out ok and I'll have everything together. But if I disappear or things get delayed you know why. We'll just have to play it as it comes. Ok, I think that's it. Vote. And feel free to spread the link around to whoever you want. Loved ones, friends, other places on SA or online. The more votes the merrier. And Happy Holidays to everyone. Vote for our Bracketology '24 Field of 64 until 12 noon EST Dec 26th!
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