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Brendan Rodgers posted:With Pantani, and cycling in general, everyone learned that investigating and punishing this or even just investigating with no punishment, will only kill the sport and then everyone makes less money. cycling used to be huge. There is no "integrity" to be saved. People didn't see the Lance Armstrong case and think cycling had been cleaned up, they thought the whole sport was rotten. Excellent post. See also athletics struggling with sponsorship Vs tennis having djokovic openly fake results from a lab and have a public meltdown at the being asked to provide a pre game sample whilst everyone marvels at how healthy he is from good old fashioned hard work.
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TheRat posted:Let's not forget all the blood bags the Spanish courts ordered destroyed. Yeah, from memory it was a cycling-related doctor who also was going to open up about football (gee wonder who he’d squeal about in Spanish football) but then nothing really came of it? You do wonder what happened with like the (in)famous Milan Lab, I know it’s still running but are they just not injecting as much cubic money as Prem teams or what.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Excellent post. See also athletics struggling with sponsorship Vs tennis having djokovic openly fake results from a lab and have a public meltdown at the being asked to provide a pre game sample whilst everyone marvels at how healthy he is from good old fashioned hard work. don't forget he refuses to take a covid vaccine still lol
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harperdc posted:Yeah, from memory it was a cycling-related doctor who also was going to open up about football (gee wonder who he’d squeal about in Spanish football) but then nothing really came of it? the prem just runs on jamie vardy take of 3 red bulls, a triple espresso and rinsing his mouth out with more red bull running onto the pitch on match days
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Mickolution posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/28/blair-was-keen-to-relocate-wimbledon-fc-to-belfast-in-late-1990s-papers-show on the topic of unparalleled disasters, alastair campbell tried raising the idea of holding a match between celtic and rangers in the six counties to “bolster peace”, with both teams wearing the other team’s shirt for the match. new labour was wild
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gaelach posted:on the topic of unparalleled disasters, alastair campbell tried raising the idea of holding a match between celtic and rangers in the six counties to “bolster peace”, with both teams wearing the other team’s shirt for the match. new labour was wild lol, lmao and loving rofl
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gaelach posted:on the topic of unparalleled disasters, alastair campbell tried raising the idea of holding a match between celtic and rangers in the six counties to “bolster peace”, with both teams wearing the other team’s shirt for the match. new labour was wild lol
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gaelach posted:on the topic of unparalleled disasters, alastair campbell tried raising the idea of holding a match between celtic and rangers in the six counties to “bolster peace”, with both teams wearing the other team’s shirt for the match. new labour was wild Everything about new labour makes sense when you remember Blair was an insane cultist who gave final veto on all policies to a telephone psychic his wife liked.
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gaelach posted:on the topic of unparalleled disasters, alastair campbell tried raising the idea of holding a match between celtic and rangers in the six counties to “bolster peace”, with both teams wearing the other team’s shirt for the match. new labour was wild lmao harperdc posted:Yeah, from memory it was a cycling-related doctor who also was going to open up about football (gee wonder who he’d squeal about in Spanish football) but then nothing really came of it? The guy got caught for doping cyclists, but according to him his clinic served cyclists, footballers, and tennis players, and he once memorably said that if he named names they would take away Spain's 2010 World Cup. Then the Spanish courts ordered him to destroy all the bags and never name names, for what I'm sure were just practical and above-board legal reasons.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:With Pantani, and cycling in general, everyone learned that investigating and punishing this or even just investigating with no punishment, will only kill the sport and then everyone makes less money. cycling used to be huge. There is no "integrity" to be saved. People didn't see the Lance Armstrong case and think cycling had been cleaned up, they thought the whole sport was rotten.
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Nice Uncle Roy might be getting a P45 as a late Christmas present quote:Palace face Brentford at Selhurst Park on Saturday with Hodgson aware that his job is on the line despite his triumphant return to the club last season when he replaced Patrick Vieira after a 12-match winless run and guided Palace to 11th place. Cooper is believed to be available without having to pay compensation to Forest, with Parish having spoken to the former England Under-17 manager about taking over in the summer. I said Steve Cooper would be out of work for about 10 minutes, feeling vindicated. Sad to see someone on the brink of getting sacked from his boyhood club, he was there when they played their home games in the original Crystal Palace
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Would be interesting to hear from the Palace board where they think the club should be and how it’s Roy’s fault
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Thanks Ants posted:Would be interesting to hear from the Palace board where they think the club should be and how it’s Roy’s fault I think that implies any strategic thinking beyond “it’s nearly January and Luton are gaining on us” panic.
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Tbh palace are playing good football, they been unlucky lately and were the better team against Chelsea (who isn't heyooooo). They got some really good players which they seem to hang their hats on, but I guess short termism is a PL trait.
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tbf there's also the thing where Hodgson is 76 years old, has retired once, and only has a contract through the end of the season he's not a long-term option by definition, but I will still lol when he comes back again next season after new lad is bottom at christmas
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Palace look pretty good tbh, there’s only so much you can do with their caliber of players
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Think it’s less a verdict on the results and more a panicked look towards a January cold snap. How affected by AFCON are Palace gonna be as well?
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Total Meatlove posted:Think it’s less a verdict on the results and more a panicked look towards a January cold snap. They'll lose Ayew and Schlupp playing for Ghana, and Doucore playing for Mali.
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Every team is losing players due to AFCON except City who have no African players after Mahrez left. Also Chelsea are losing only one player which is Nicholas Jackson which might save dumbass Pochetino's job.
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Palace should be ok, Doucoure is out for the season anyway and Schlupp hasn't been in the last couple of Ghana squads. Most teams have got one or two first team players out for a few weeks, but I think Newcastle are unaffected as well as City. Spurs losing Sarr and Bissouma means they'll hopefully field an entire team of wide players at some point, which should be good for non-stop Angeball highscores. Onana and Amrabat being out is possibly a net positive? RIP Forest though
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Ulio posted:Every team is losing players due to AFCON except City who have no African players after Mahrez left. Arsenal are fine as well really since Partey is 'injured' most of the time and Mo hardly every plays
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Son and Hwang are the two big ones missing for the Asian Cup, and Liverpool will miss Endo. Mitoma might not even travel depending on his injury, and Tomiyasu is out either way. Other than that I think it's just Ghoddos at Brentford. I think Spurs would have been ok if it was just the tournament players missing, but obviously now the squad is paper thin anyway. Maddison could be back soon and let's go Veliz, I guess? Bissouma might not be gone too long, Mali aren't one of the favourites. All of this brought to you by someone who is probably taking fantasy football a bit too seriously this year
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Ulio posted:Every team is losing players due to AFCON except City who have no African players after Mahrez left. Eto'o and Yaya Toure were right.
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Wazzerphuk posted:Son and Hwang are the two big ones missing for the Asian Cup, and Liverpool will miss Endo. Mitoma might not even travel depending on his injury, and Tomiyasu is out either way. Other than that I think it's just Ghoddos at Brentford. Ya spurs are definitely the most hurt. Mali haven't announced their squad yet I believe but if they take Everton's Doucoure their midfield is stacked and their group is easy. It seems Doucoure has some issues with the managers or fa so he hasn't featured regularly despite being one of their best players.
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I don’t understand how there are these international tournaments that take place square in the middle of a footballing season lol. It seems like the kinda coordination problem an international or regional organization might be designed specifically to deal with
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Vegetable posted:I don’t understand how there are these international tournaments that take place square in the middle of a footballing season lol. It seems like the kinda coordination problem an international or regional organization might be designed specifically to deal with It’s so loving dumb
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Vegetable posted:I don’t understand how there are these international tournaments that take place square in the middle of a footballing season lol. It seems like the kinda coordination problem an international or regional organization might be designed specifically to deal with They literally held the World Cup during the middle of the season last year. You know, the thing they spend a decade organizing.
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Nuclear Spoon posted:drat i wonder why african countries don't host their international tournament during the summer cup tied
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