2023 NFL Week 14 N/V: Zappe vs. Trubisky, just like the NFL drew up.

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Chris James 2: Aug 9, 2012

Gorson posted:

Over/under for Thursday's matchup is 30(!)

I hope Ferentz is proud

# ? Dec 5, 2023 14:15

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# ? May 9, 2024 16:37

Woozie66: Sep 8, 2009; I'll wait for the next era

Who are the week 1 starters who have been benched? Just Mac and Jimmy G? Bless the Patriot way.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 14:38

Crescent Wrench: Sep 30, 2005; The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.; Grimey Drawer

Android Apocalypse posted:

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Jfc, this season has been a bloodbath. I was making a mental list when TLaw went down last night and I blanked on Cousins and Richardson. I can't keep track anymore.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 14:47

Black Lighter: Sep 6, 2010; Just keep looking at what we're doing, keep watering and ask yourselves first and know 'Are you watering? And are you fertilizing every day?' So when it's time to pop, it'll pop.

SKULL.GIF posted:

Frank Gore shouldn't be in the Hall what the gently caress are you on?

You can easily and trivially tell the story of the NFL while utterly and completely omitting Frank Gore. Being the 5th to 15th best RB every year isn't fame-worthy even if you do it for 10 years. I don't care about the consistency. He's one of the greatest 49ers but he does not remotely qualify to be mentioned in the same breath as Payton, Dickerson, Faulk, Sanders, Tomlinson, Brown, etc.

Gore is a Ricky Watters who managed to play five extra seasons. Don't kid yourselves.

Ricky Watters should absolutely be in the HOF

# ? Dec 5, 2023 14:56

Crescent Wrench: Sep 30, 2005; The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.; Grimey Drawer

SKULL.GIF posted:

Frank Gore shouldn't be in the Hall what the gently caress are you on?

You can easily and trivially tell the story of the NFL while utterly and completely omitting Frank Gore. Being the 5th to 15th best RB every year isn't fame-worthy even if you do it for 10 years. I don't care about the consistency. He's one of the greatest 49ers but he does not remotely qualify to be mentioned in the same breath as Payton, Dickerson, Faulk, Sanders, Tomlinson, Brown, etc.

Gore is a Ricky Watters who managed to play five extra seasons. Don't kid yourselves.

Not necessarily putting him on my ballot, but "what the gently caress are you on?" seems silly. "Is Frank Gore a HOF player?" is the most perennial TFF debate since "Is Joe Flacco an NFL-caliber quarterback?"

# ? Dec 5, 2023 15:08

Kull the Conqueror: Apr 8, 2006; Take me to the green valley,
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Did Jake Browning look actually good or �there�s no film on him� good?

# ? Dec 5, 2023 15:11

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; c-spam cannot afford

Kull the Conqueror posted:

Did Jake Browning look actually good or �there�s no film on him� good?

He looked good.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 15:15

OneMoreTime: Feb 20, 2011; *quack*

Kull the Conqueror posted:

Did Jake Browning look actually good or �there�s no film on him� good?

Absolutely no idea, although when the Bengals stopped having him throw screens and start throwing downfield he looked much better. Chase did a lot of heavy lifting for him during the game too.

I'd say right now he's probably a serviceable backup QB

# ? Dec 5, 2023 15:17

Chris James 2: Aug 9, 2012

Crescent Wrench posted:

"Is Frank Gore a HOF player?" is the most perennial TFF debate since "Is Joe Flacco an NFL-caliber quarterback?"

They're both immediate and absolute yeses, and time has only validated that, especially with Flacco instantly doing great for Cleveland

# ? Dec 5, 2023 15:27

20 Blunts: Jan 21, 2017

Flacco got bored with this crap after the Super Bowl win.

Is it from this forum I got the idea that Joe Flacco kinda looks like a F1 racer? or perhaps one of those not-so-redneck NASCAR guys.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 15:32

Impossibly Perfect Sphere: Nov 6, 2002; They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Kull the Conqueror posted:

Did Jake Browning look actually good or �there�s no film on him� good?

It's hard to tell because neither team seemed interested in playing pass defense and doing things like "get to qb" or "cover receivers".

# ? Dec 5, 2023 15:43

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

The chain gang official that got hosed up bad during the Lions / Saints game suffered a broken leg and dislocated knee

https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/saints-sideline-official-breaks-leg-kamara/article_1e7d80dc-92e3-11ee-88fe-079e1dcf58be.amp.html

Ow

# ? Dec 5, 2023 15:55

Woozie66: Sep 8, 2009; I'll wait for the next era

Kull the Conqueror posted:

Did Jake Browning look actually good or “there’s no film on him” good?

His completion percentage is a bit fakey because his first ten or so passes were all completions that went for like 5 yards total. And 75 yards were on a Chase jump ball where the DB fell down. So...idk.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:01

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

Papercut posted:

Ricky Watters was awesome

For who, for what?

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:18

AndrewP: Apr 21, 2010

Hot Diggity! posted:

The chain gang official that got hosed up bad during the Lions / Saints game suffered a broken leg and dislocated knee

https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/saints-sideline-official-breaks-leg-kamara/article_1e7d80dc-92e3-11ee-88fe-079e1dcf58be.amp.html

Ow

Wrong ref died

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:28

Vertical Lime: Dec 11, 2004

Chris James 2 posted:

I hope Ferentz is proud

the innovator we deserve

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:34

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Hot take:

Josh Allen is not a great QB. He's exciting but turns the ball over too much and hurts his team almost as much as he helps.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:40

AndrewP: Apr 21, 2010

I think Allen�s turnovers get brushed off a little too quickly, but he�s still a great QB.

Let�s put it this way, the Bills are still the AFC team I�d least like to face in the playoffs

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:44

Impossibly Perfect Sphere: Nov 6, 2002; They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

AndrewP posted:

Let�s put it this way, the Bills are still the AFC team I�d least like to face in the playoffs

lol

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:45

A Buffer Gay Dude: Oct 25, 2020

Bengals v Colts is a 2018 Apple Cup Rematch

Go Dawgs�er�Cats!

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:45

A Buffer Gay Dude: Oct 25, 2020

Kull the Conqueror posted:

Did Jake Browning look actually good or �there�s no film on him� good?

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:47

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; c-spam cannot afford

How about when Josh Allen could have won a game in overtime but threw the wrong pass, and then Tony Romo defended him by saying that the receiver should have read it differently instead of Allen just whiffing.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:47

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Waltzing Along posted:

Hot take:

Josh Allen is not a great QB. He's exciting but turns the ball over too much and hurts his team almost as much as he helps.

He also scores more TDs than just about anyone else though.

Also you would be a hero-balling doofus too if you had to watch 13 seconds happen.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:50

Kurgarra Queen: Jun 11, 2008; GIVE ME MORE
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Mr. Nice! posted:

How about when Josh Allen could have won a game in overtime but threw the wrong pass, and then Tony Romo defended him by saying that the receiver should have read it differently instead of Allen just whiffing.

The receiver was Gabe Davis though, so it was probably his fault because he sucks rear end 75+% of the time.
Josh�s mistake was throwing to him, honestly.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:51

shyduck: Oct 3, 2003

Kull the Conqueror posted:

Did Jake Browning look actually good or “there’s no film on him” good?

I think it's both. His completion percentage last night (86.5%) was unprecedented for QB in only their 2nd start. Didn't turn it over. Ate a bad sack late but they recovered. He would be QB1 on several teams right now.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:54

AndrewP: Apr 21, 2010

We are too nitpicky on these actually good quarterbacks. I mean look at this bullshit.

Chris James 2 posted:

https://twitter.com/Michael_Fabiano/status/1731889168098173253

Allen has flaws but he's a guy you'd absolutely hitch your wagon to and that's all you can ask for in this league

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:55

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Woozie66 posted:

Who are the week 1 starters who have been benched? Just Mac and Jimmy G? Bless the Patriot way.

Tanny too, he did get injured but even when he recovered it was clear Levis was the better option.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 16:59

TheBizzness: Oct 5, 2004; Reign on me.

Josh Allen is going to be the only QB to ever have 40+ total TD for 4 straight seasons or some nonsense like that.

He�s pretty drat good.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 17:15

bows1: May 16, 2004; Chill, whale, chill

Kull the Conqueror posted:

Did Jake Browning look actually good or �there�s no film on him� good?

He looked much better than expected but I wouldnt look for him to be great like last night this coming week.

However his passes looked pretty good, he had some good runs and bootlegs. Also really helped that they started using Chase Brown who gave some juice to the running game.

Somehow the O line worked well last night too??

# ? Dec 5, 2023 17:19

Impossibly Perfect Sphere: Nov 6, 2002; They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

TheBizzness posted:

Josh Allen is going to be the only QB to ever have 40+ total TD for 4 straight seasons or some nonsense like that.

He�s pretty drat good.

He's more likely to have his career cut short because he doesn't protect himself and won't stop playing hero ball.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 17:20

Darude - Adam Sandstorm: Aug 16, 2012

Bill can fix Josh Allen

And by fix I mean destroy him

# ? Dec 5, 2023 17:26

A Buffer Gay Dude: Oct 25, 2020

bows1 posted:

He looked much better than expected but I wouldnt look for him to be great like last night this coming week.

However his passes looked pretty good, he had some good runs and bootlegs. Also really helped that they started using Chase Brown who gave some juice to the running game.

Somehow the O line worked well last night too??

I implore everyone to look at Jake Browning�s college stats. They were amazing, and the one year he was really surrounded by top talent (2016) they were absolutely bonkers. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jake-browning-1.html

His only knocks were �not athletic enough� and �too small�. He had a pretty nasty shoulder injury at the end of 2016 when UW made the CfB playoff so in his first real �national� exposure against Alabama he didn�t look great, which probably left a bad taste in folks� mouths.

Anyway in a league where guys like Purdy are finding success someone is going to pay the man now, and that rules.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 17:28

Thaddius the Large: Jul 5, 2006; It's in the five-hole!

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Bill can fix Josh Allen

And by fix I mean destroy him

They can fix him the same way the vet fixed my dog

# ? Dec 5, 2023 17:34

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

Crescent Wrench posted:

Not necessarily putting him on my ballot, but "what the gently caress are you on?" seems silly. "Is Frank Gore a HOF player?" is the most perennial TFF debate since "Is Joe Flacco an NFL-caliber quarterback?"

Did you mean "Is Joe Flacco elite"?

# ? Dec 5, 2023 17:36

Waltzing Along: Jun 14, 2008; There's only one
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TheBizzness posted:

Josh Allen is going to be the only QB to ever have 40+ total TD for 4 straight seasons or some nonsense like that.

He’s pretty drat good.

He needs to do it once before he can do it four times.

E: missed "total"

Leaving it

# ? Dec 5, 2023 18:27

TheBizzness: Oct 5, 2004; Reign on me.

Patrick Mahomes is the only good QB.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 18:30

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

TheBizzness posted:

Patrick Mahomes is the only good QB.

Oh?

# ? Dec 5, 2023 18:33

Waltzing Along: Jun 14, 2008; There's only one
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At what point is Purdy good? He's now got 1 years worth of games and is 14-3 and I believe is leading in completion % YPA and rating during that time. Plus he is 2-incomplete in the playoffs.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 18:35

Kalli: Jun 2, 2001

Much like being a bust, you're one until proven otherwise.

# ? Dec 5, 2023 18:38

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# ? May 9, 2024 16:37

Papercut: Aug 24, 2005

Waltzing Along posted:

At what point is Purdy good? He's now got 1 years worth of games and is 14-3 and I believe is leading in completion % YPA and rating during that time. Plus he is 2-incomplete in the playoffs.

Not until he too is losing on game-winning throws to MVS

# ? Dec 5, 2023 18:38

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