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every time a computer gets faster, they figure out how to make them slow again. everything is a memory leaky electron app now. we got ssds, but then programs and games just got bigger so they take just as long to load. it’s like computers where at their best in the 80s when the OS would fit in ROM and you just needed the floppy drive to save files otoh you could say, that electron and or web apps make software more platform agnostic, so who is to say if it’s bad or good
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see also: maybe we should legislate max power usage on computers because running a 750 watt beast to load spreadsheets is dumb.
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Silver Alicorn posted:see also: maybe we should legislate max power usage on computers because running a 750 watt beast to load spreadsheets is dumb. you may find this page interesting OP https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/permacomputing.html
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I did thanks op
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they were the same speed until the m1 macbook air
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computers have gotten faster but javascript has destroyed all progress by eating every extra cycle
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my computer is hella fast, not sure what all your problems are. maybe you're using them wrong??
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I've got a game running at 120 FPS while watching an episode of MythBusters and voice chatting with friends though an electron app and my machine's using less than 300 watts with less than half of its utilization and I don't remember being able to do anything like that in 2003 so idk op it seems pretty fast to me
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yes.
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or maybe no? im not sure
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jesus christ that's a lot of crap to do at once.
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im gonna say no, op
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i think a more nuanced take is probably that computers ARE faster but the things they do have gotten WORSE
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ask better questions op faster at what?
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Kazinsal posted:I've got a game running at 120 FPS while watching an episode of MythBusters and voice chatting with friends though an electron app and my machine's using less than 300 watts with less than half of its utilization and I don't remember being able to do anything like that in 2003 so idk op it seems pretty fast to me is your brain ok???
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Kazinsal posted:I've got a game running at 120 FPS while watching an episode of MythBusters and voice chatting with friends though an electron app and my machine's using less than 300 watts with less than half of its utilization and I don't remember being able to do anything like that in 2003 so idk op it seems pretty fast to me have you considered ritalin?
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Dec 7, 2023 07:10
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this thread: computer too slow also this thread: whoa whoa whoa this guy using computer too fast
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computers are pretty fast op the only people whining abotu electron apps are the same people who "use computer" by staring at utilisation stats all day
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git apologist posted:computers are pretty fast op the only people whining abotu electron apps are the same people who "use computer" by staring at utilisation stats all day i utilized my computer today
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they have despite all attempts by programmers to erase the continued efforts of hardware engineers
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yes they are faster but not proportionally to the rate of improvement. I have 1000x the amount of ram, 20x the number of cores, each of which is 100x faster, and 100x the disk IO speed of a computer I had 25 years ago. but it feels about 5x faster.
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this is all in our stupid brain, btw. if you sat in front of a 100 mhz pentium machine running windows 98 on a pata hard drive and tried to do your normal workflow your eyes would bleed. opening a single browser window would take tens of seconds.
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you’re right I guess. doing anything on a computer used to be An Event. SSDs were the big game changer
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maybe computers shouldn't be faster
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Silver Alicorn posted:you’re right I guess. doing anything on a computer used to be An Event. SSDs were the big game changer what about pciex16
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I dunno what’s pciex16 with you?
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wasting computation to make ones job easier is fine, cool and good if you're a person making something for an end-user, basically when you're making a *purpose* for the computer. a small team making a cool game gets to burn as many cycles as they want if it still runs acceptably and doing so lets them do more. a computer toucher writing an inefficient little tool that 5 people will use but will save everyone some work time so they can head home early, very nice. computers getting faster -> more cool stuff like that. putting hideously architected javascript into your boring as hell desktop environment to render an icon and maybe show the time is waste (see e.g. gnome poo poo), making your platform stuff slow because you're a snowflake about it being clean or other basically bikeshed stuff is a waste (see e.g. electron and python), and so on. vast majority of code in the world is the top of its own stack, so make the stack efficient.
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as someone who's spent time hand writing simd code to speed up low-level functions, the very idea that some rear end in a top hat out there is adding two integers using javascript when it could be done with a single instruction infuriates me to my very core and makes me visibly shake with barely restrained rage
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The Management posted:this is all in our stupid brain, btw. if you sat in front of a 100 mhz pentium machine running windows 98 on a pata hard drive and tried to do your normal workflow your eyes would bleed. opening a single browser window would take tens of seconds. Speedwise, the library catalog peaked with Dynix and that was 30 years ago
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:as someone who's spent time hand writing simd code to speed up low-level functions, the very idea that some rear end in a top hat out there is adding two integers using javascript when it could be done with a single instruction infuriates me to my very core and makes me visibly shake with barely restrained rage adding 2 numbers in javascript and thinking of u might also round the result by casting to a string and using a regex idk
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Pull over, that computer too fast (Too fast) Hit the ATM and grab mo' cash (Mo' cash) Yes Lord, feelin' like a new man (Yes, Lord!) I was dreaming in the life then I woke up in the
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:as someone who's spent time hand writing simd code to speed up low-level functions, the very idea that some rear end in a top hat out there is adding two integers using javascript when it could be done with a single instruction infuriates me to my very core and makes me visibly shake with barely restrained rage Nobody is doing this. JavaScript doesn’t have integers.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:as someone who's spent time hand writing simd code to speed up low-level functions, the very idea that some rear end in a top hat out there is adding two integers using javascript when it could be done with a single instruction infuriates me to my very core and makes me visibly shake with barely restrained rage i simply send a request to our arithmetic microservice whenever i need to add numbers together
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The Management posted:this is all in our stupid brain, btw. if you sat in front of a 100 mhz pentium machine running windows 98 on a pata hard drive and tried to do your normal workflow your eyes would bleed. opening a single browser window would take tens of seconds. impossible, a bunch of twitter grognards assure me that everything* back then opened instantaneously on a 386 *everything being dos EDIT.COM
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My computer hasn't gotten any faster since I put it together, no.
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well-read undead posted:adding 2 numbers in javascript and thinking of u Elder Postsman posted:i simply send a request to our arithmetic microservice whenever i need to add numbers together i am literally foaming at the mouth right now tk posted:Nobody is doing this. using whatever loving bespoke ersatz integers that shitheap uses, then
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:using whatever loving bespoke ersatz integers that shitheap uses, then did you know that by adding a mere 100 extra instructions around each instance of it you can make the fpu reliably do 53 bit integer math?
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it's not even a wrapper around floating point, they have a bigint type that is arbitrary precision aka implemented with digit strings. at no point during the addition of two javascript integers are the two integers themselves passed to an add instruction
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computers are ridiculously fast at computing these days. but for some reason resharper is still dogshit slow.
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there are no types. variables are simply beeps and boops in memory. you fools. you ignoramuses
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