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How long the director's cut is supposed to be?
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Dec 16, 2023 00:02
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I was promised black jack and hookers. Does the movie feature them?
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Dec 16, 2023 00:10
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No Luck Needed posted:So you have a giant space warping ship and come to dominate a village of 500 for 10,000 bushels of "grain" that part is very much "shut your brain off" moment. Toss some Imperial Soldiers in the space port, make it seem like the Empire is putting their boot on this moon. Watching it right now. The village stuff was nice. My main complain for now it's that clot of slow mo in the fights that didn't make any narrative sense.
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Dec 22, 2023 22:06
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- The bird sequence was really nice stuff. Even more the ending. - The fight against the spider woman thing was completely nonsensical. Pure trash. - WAY to go, Gunnar! - Ok, this fights was really confusing and messy. In the end, the storytelling is interesting, I really liked the vibes and the SF tech and worldbuilding in general, there is some nonsensical stuff here and there but I don't think it's a problem. All the characters that are not Kora or Gunnar are incredibly underdeveloped. You don't really need very deep characters in a movie like this, you want them just to be likeable, to do cool stuff and/or to die in a cool, heroic way, but outside their introduction they really where kinda just there. Titus in particular is completely irrelevant, basically a living prop. Since this is only part one, though, I expect more. I read people saying about them having flashbacks int he longer cut, but I'd prefer if they just did something relevant in the story (also, I must say, I'm not a fan of flashbacks as a storytelling device for a movie). The fights were probably the most boring part. I really didn't care for most of them. The fistfight at the end was good though.
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Dec 22, 2023 23:36
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josh04 posted:Well, why didn't the village in seven samurai hand over a large amount of bird feed? Because they asked for rice.
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Dec 22, 2023 23:51
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I want to go back to what I think is nonsensical (but I want to stress that for me it's not a big deal). It's not the actions, it's the scale. The world is too empty. The admiral commanding a "world destroying" ship, of this impossibly huge machine that keep whole worlds under their heel, visits a village to ask for grain? And that happens to be same village where there are the most wanted woman in the universe and a farmer that personally knows the leaders of the interplanetary insurrection? It's movie logic, it doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Dec 23, 2023 |
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Dec 23, 2023 10:52
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Majkol posted:Again, Star Wars. Sure. That's why I said that it's not a big deal. But again, let's not pretend that it makes sense.
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Dec 23, 2023 11:05
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McCloud posted:A Rebel Moon, if you will That would mean 100 people are a moon.
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Dec 23, 2023 11:56
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Caros posted:The worst example of this bad choreography is the spider. Their climactic duel comes to a close as she chokes the life out of her opponent and... She is stabbed in the chest. By the laser swords her opponent was holding the whole fight. The ending of that fight only worjs if you, like the spider, lack object permanence.
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Dec 25, 2023 11:45
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Rabelais D posted:The early shot of Kora farming in front of the moon beats anything in Villeneuve's Dune. Gorgeous movie.
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Dec 25, 2023 18:39
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Neo Rasa posted:That shot of her against the planet by itself is good but the way it cuts from and to it and nothing else in the movie looks like it makes it stick out badly and feel too artificial. I have no problems with the "touch the earth" idea, but you can reaaaally taste the green screen behind her. It has no depth and the planet is incredibly fake. JazzFlight posted:Am I the only person who thought that at the end they were leading to a reveal that the blond girl is really the princess? If they show that in the sequel, they missed a chance to put it at the end as a more interesting cliffhanger. An interesting idea would be to put the princess on the villains side in the next movie. Honestly, using her as the reason why the Jimmy rebelled would be quite lame. YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Dec 25, 2023 |
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Dec 25, 2023 19:35
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teagone posted:I enjoy the aesthetics of both Dune and Rebel Moon, but can understand the why of how someone would prefer one or the other. I'd say Dune is very sterile/neat and minimalist with its visuals, where Rebel Moon is very sweaty/grimey and maximalist. That said, I personally am very partial to how Zack photographs the human form so Rebel Moon wins for me solely on that metric lol. Despite how chopped up his scenes were, I enjoyed Djimon as Titus simply because he looked absolutely ridiculous in the Snyder aesthetic haha. Oh, I'm a sucker for Villeneuve minimalism in Dune, that for sure.
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Dec 25, 2023 20:59
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josh04 posted:I bring exciting filler information from the novelisation! The book opens with an origin story for the imperial soldier who tries to help Sam, where his father was a King who harboured the Bloodaxes and was executed by Admiral Noble, who kidnapped him for the Realm. After the fight he announces that he was never one of them and never could be. Kora suggests to Hagen before she leaves that the two of them go salvage the ship she arrived in. Meh.
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Dec 27, 2023 23:36
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josh04 posted:If you were "meh" at that you're going to hate this: Yeah, but I would find very funny if after all this speculations the cut parts were really those scenes.
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Dec 28, 2023 13:17
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Oh, 100%. The biggest evidence something is wrong with the movie is this rhythm and tone disconnection between the two halves. I really think the novelization is doing its own stuff. YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Dec 28, 2023 |
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Dec 28, 2023 18:46
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Schwarzwald posted:The Movie: [Staz Nair wrestling sweatily with a drat griffon.] The griffon wrestling was great, but the character was not really interesting. Not like a rebel robot butler that defies its programming to save a girl, at least.
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Dec 28, 2023 22:19
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The King's Gaze is supposed to be 2 km and half long.
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Dec 29, 2023 17:23
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Communist Thoughts posted:It's gonna be funny when the final cut is released and it doesn't contain any additional characterisation or things that were missing but it contains an extra hour of griffons or sweaty pecs I dunno I haven't seen this one yet. I'm half expecting a bunch of cut establishing shots, the attempted rape scene going much further, and also battles twice as long and much, much gorier. And that's it.
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Dec 29, 2023 23:20
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teagone posted:According to a recent interview with Snyder, the extended cut will have a completely different opening focused entirely on Nobel. The Swedish chemist, inventor, engineer and businessman?
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Dec 30, 2023 09:29
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Isn't just that with those lens only the center of the scene is on focus?
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Dec 30, 2023 17:21
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Yeah, all in all, it's just a mediocre movie (at least the current version). At least Star Wars ST had a potentially good starting point movie, a fanbase breaker movie, and a horrible fever dream movie, they surely more interesting to talk than this.
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Jan 4, 2024 16:40
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I REALLY don't see the 40k influence
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Jan 4, 2024 18:19
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Jimbot posted:I might do a movie battle between Rebel Moon and Magnificent Seven. It's easier to do than Seven Samurai because it's shorter but it's also more fresh in my memory (it's on Prime if you have it). Magnificent Seven and Reble Moon has a lot of their characters in the same kind of circumstances too. I think some folks may be setting themselves up for disappointment if they're hoping the real cut fills up the recruitment process. I think it'll flesh out the lead up to them (such as the movie jumping to the group sharing and elevator with Nemesis, skipping over the initial meeting) and jarring things like that but the rapid-fire back-to-back recruitment is just an aspect of this kind of film. My problem is less the recruitment and more how the characters are a giant nothing. I don't want flashbacks I want characters that are not 'just there'. TMS has a lot of character interactions, be it between the Seven, between them and the village, or between them and the bad guys. Again, this is half of the story so I hope there is something more in the second part. YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jan 4, 2024 |
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Jan 4, 2024 18:41
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McCloud posted:Also I don't know how you can see this and not see the comparison to 40K. Mostly because when I think about 40k I think about this type of aesthetic:  Yeah, sure, the guys wearing nazi-like uniforms resemble the 40k guys wearing nazi-like uniforms, who knew. YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jan 4, 2024 |
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Jan 4, 2024 22:46
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Bongo Bill posted:Now I'm actually wonderin' if I even LIKE kings, man. ZS sure does, 5/7 of the casts are kings or monarchy supporters. Which is yet another reason why in the novel the whole "the repented stormtrooper is actually the son of a king, that infiltrated the army for vengeance" is really frustrating. YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Jan 11, 2024 |
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Jan 11, 2024 09:27
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In the long version we find that the short version is an inconsequential side plot of the real story. Noble was the real protagonist all along.
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Feb 20, 2024 13:57
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wyoming posted:Also talks a bit about how he's writing a King Arthur-esqe tale set in the wild west. Isn't that just the Roland Deschain background story?
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Mar 4, 2024 14:56
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What a senseless waste of cinematography.
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Apr 20, 2024 09:23
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The main problem is that the action is a confusing boring mess, and that the movie is action for the 75% of its time. Also lol at "and now, the night before the big battle, let's share our backstories!" I have no idea how could there be an extended version because this one already felt 40 minutes too long. YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Apr 20, 2024 |
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Apr 20, 2024 12:43
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Also, the first movie had many interesting worldbuilding idea. This one had a really, really dull setting.
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Apr 20, 2024 13:01
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josh04 posted:It's the same setting lol And where is the stuff like the puppeteer aliens, the spider women, the griffins, the giant gladiator arenas, the bizarre mental techno-connections? The only interesting things was the giant woman head in the ship and Jimmy.
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Apr 20, 2024 13:59
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A world destroyer!
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Apr 20, 2024 18:46
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wyoming posted:
But the king has a change of heart, and so he let his daughter, the messiah, to name "pacifier" this new ship POWERED BY THE STOLEN POWERS OF AN ENSLAVED BIOMECHANICAL GODDESS.
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Apr 20, 2024 23:39
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:why would you assume that the disconnect between tech levels is a mistake? it's a movie, not a Let's Play of Civilization "cause it was like a glimpse into a better movie"
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Apr 21, 2024 18:08
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What? They build the last dreadnought like 13 years ago, how can they "barely know how to use the tech they have" if they freaking built It?
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Apr 21, 2024 19:01
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checkplease posted:More on this as it's good stuff, you can imagine much of the empire tech is simply taken from worlds they conquered. It's why there's a mix of big battleship like guns and astral plane resurrection pods. Or coal and enslaved goddesses. I seriously doubt it. The military superiority of the Realm it's all because Motherworld learned how to capture and enslave the Kali, all their almost supernatural tech is powered by their infinite energy. The whole stagnation started after the death of the Royal family, 13 years ago. YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Apr 22, 2024 08:21
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I think the whole three day timeline was a little too compressed. The farmers harvested the crop in a third of the time they usually needed, AND they were trained to the point of being able to fight, AND they prepared a network of boobytrapped trenches, AND they recovered Kora ship? It's not a big deal, but it's also not very credible.
YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Apr 22, 2024 09:27
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(the dirty secret is that 50% of the original SW movie was Seven Samurai already)
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Apr 23, 2024 13:32
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Nah, maybe at the beginning, but nobody cares about this movie.
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May 9, 2024 00:13
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