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Im not sure what to feel on the Russ situation because objectively Payton is correct and this is the forward thinking move. Otoh its a lovely move by the Broncos BUT teams do this all the time and Russ just happens to be the only one to air it publicly. I want say both are true: Payton wouldve sat Russ post-bye if he really wanted to and Russ couldve spoken out sooner if he really cared about this. Seems like its mostly a GM thing to me and Russ is hamming it up
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I'd definitely rather see Russ on the Steelers than, like, Kirk Cousins
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Android Apocalypse posted:News: If he’s released he won’t have a contract anymore so there’s no salary to eat.
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Master Stur posted:Im not sure what to feel on the Russ situation because objectively Payton is correct and this is the forward thinking move. Otoh its a lovely move by the Broncos BUT teams do this all the time and Russ just happens to be the only one to air it publicly. I want say both are true: Payton wouldve sat Russ post-bye if he really wanted to and Russ couldve spoken out sooner if he really cared about this. Seems like its mostly a GM thing to me and Russ is hamming it up He's still getting paid. Move on. Don't shed your tears.
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I don't get all the sadness about him being benched. if he was better earlier in the season, they'd still be in the playoff hunt, and so he'd still be playing. but he wasn't, so he isn't. he's on the bench because he sucked so much last season, and was pretty bad this season, that based on his performance it's in the team's best interest not to trigger any more guarantees. we can all handwring about how he's being benched for money, but to be accurate, he's being benched because his play isn't worth anywhere near his salary nobody's ever like "man it sucks that Sam Darnold doesn't get to start." playing time isn't part of the deal, that's what the money's for
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indigi posted:his play isn't worth anywhere near his salary Thats not how contracts work and there was nothing stopping the broncos from sitting him even if he waived his clause
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Despera posted:Thats not how contracts work and there was nothing stopping the broncos from sitting him even if he waived his clause He didn’t get benched until two months after the ultimatum so I don’t think it actually mattered at all and it was always going to come down to whether Payton wanted to play him or not. He’s also going to get everything he’s owed on his contract, he’s making 125 million dollars for two years of work and most of that is from a contract extension that hasn’t even started yet!
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Despera posted:Thats not how contracts work and there was nothing stopping the broncos from sitting him even if he waived his clause he's getting his money, where did I say otherwise
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Still mad about last night, haven't been that irritated about a call about a team I don't care about since the Fail Mary. Which at least had the excuse of literal scabs to explain the incompetence there! indigi posted:I don't get all the sadness about him being benched. if he was better earlier in the season, they'd still be in the playoff hunt, and so he'd still be playing. but he wasn't, so he isn't. It's not sadness at Wilson getting benched, it's disgust at the Broncos/Walmart for trying to force him out of his insurance policy, which is a super gross thing to do! After the last two seasons they're making Wilson seem like he's the reasonable person here and that's ridiculous!
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no there's plenty of people posting "just let him finish the season!!" or "man it's a shame to bench such a competitive guy at the end of his career." being disgusted by their contract shenanigans is good, that's not what I’m reacting to
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indigi posted:no there's plenty of people posting "just let him finish the season!!" or "man it's a shame to bench such a competitive guy at the end of his career." being disgusted by their contract shenanigans is good, that's not what I’m reacting to Who's saying that? gently caress Russell Wilson. His personality is basically a Great Value Tom Brady which makes him infinitely hateable.
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Black Sunshine posted:Who's saying that? gently caress Russell Wilson. His personality is basically a Great Value Tom Brady which makes him infinitely hateable. I miss Tom
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Even with a 5-6% chance of making the playoffs it's dumb not to play Wilson. He's lost a step from his prime but he's not outright bad, just average, he's doing a 3-1 TD:INT ratio at this point. He should at least play until they are mathematically eliminated, the minimum standard, and they could easily win out with him. I can only see that this is Payton bringing the shiv out early because he doesn't like Wilson. Financially, it's not like it's clear that Wilson will pass a physical now, and the idea they will have a Seahawks-style "rebuild but not" year coming up is not realistic. This isn't the 49ers, they don't have the all-around talent to just slot in whatever QB and make him look like a first ballot guy. I can only imagine that Wilson pisses Payton off on the reg, especially if threatening to sit him after the bye was true. But lol if this is all because Wilson is not delivering the top #5 QB performance they wanted. You signed the contract guys. Name Change fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Dec 31, 2023 |
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Name Change posted:Even with a 5-6% chance of making the playoffs it's dumb not to play Wilson. He's lost a step from his prime but he's not outright bad, just average, he's doing a 3-1 TD:INT ratio at this point. He should at least play until they are mathematically eliminated, the minimum standard, and they could easily win out with him. I can only see that this is Payton bringing the shiv out early because he doesn't like Wilson. Financially, it's not like it's clear that Wilson will pass a physical now, and the idea they will have a Seahawks-style "rebuild but not" year coming up is not realistic. This isn't the 49ers, they don't have the all-around talent to just slot in whatever QB and make him look like a first ballot guy. It looks to my uneducated eye that Payton has had to call a very limited offense to get Russ to this point in the season with those stats. Payton probably thinks that they would be in the playoffs if he could call an adult offense instead of having to cater to Russ’s toddler level “can only make certain throws”. AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Dec 31, 2023 |
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Yeah. I don't get the outrage here. They're not going to win with Russ, they've shown that, so cutting him is the right move. Asking him about the garuntees is a bit of a dick move, but frankly less of a dick move than half the stuff in the league as he's still going to get paid. If Russ wanted to still be a Bronco he could have taken a pay cut or played better.
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The goddamn refs are infallible much like the pope
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What's the tldr of whatever happened at the end of the game yesterday https://twitter.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1741329085073125779?s=20
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What's the tldr of whatever happened at the end of the game yesterday The lions tried to trick the refs and successfully did but didn't listen to the refs announce on the PA exactly what was going on.
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Bip Roberts posted:The lions tried to trick the refs and successfully did but didn't listen to the refs announce on the PA exactly what was going on. the Lions were not trying to trick the refs silly
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What's the tldr of whatever happened at the end of the game yesterday The Cowboys can get hosed, the refs can get hosed. Sorry Lions fans.
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AndrewP posted:the Lions were not trying to trick the refs silly They explicitly played a gambit with three players approaching the ref at different angles with only one reporting at a critical juncture to add complexity to their trick play they were running.
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Bip Roberts posted:They explicitly played a gambit with three players approaching the ref at different angles with only one reporting at a critical juncture to add complexity to their trick play they were running. yeah that's why they explained all this to the refs before the game like coaches do when they want to do something weird. complex and weird trick plays are not new the ref forgot and just assumed he knew what was going on, and it literally cost the Lions the game
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AndrewP posted:yeah that's why they explained all this to the refs before the game like coaches do when they want to do something weird. complex and weird trick plays are not new KISS principle dawg
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R.D. Mangles posted:we've got a snow game in chicago 
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R.D. Mangles posted:we've got a snow game in chicago edit, wait, we have that one, dont we? 
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AndrewP posted:this is one of those events, much like the Calvin Johnson non-catch, that makes a whole lot of people dig into the rulebook and learn some rules they probably weren't too smart on before Sorry rule of cool it's funnier this way
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Howell is like a 5th rounder, I don't understand why they are so bought into him.
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xbilkis posted:They openly benched him and he's only starting because of injury? They started him all season
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mcmagic posted:Howell is like a 5th rounder, I don't understand why they are so bought into him. One man wolf pack
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mcmagic posted:They started him all season a large fraction of a season where someone still gets benched before the end isn't what I'd describe as *so bought into him*
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He was OK to start the season, then he sucked, then they benched him. That doesn't seem particularly bought in to me, unless you think they should have been starting 31 year old Jacoby Brissett sooner rather than using 15 whole games to evaluate a young guy who flashed some potential
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Bip Roberts posted:Sorry rule of cool it's funnier this way The Law of Lol
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