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I wonder what’s their training data because if they’ve trained on a ton of commercial songs without getting a license, they’re really just in the wild west and there’s no guarantee songs you paid to generate will end up actually belonging to you
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I really went all out creating these lyrics. Feels good 2 finally be a real musician https://files.catbox.moe/3nxsww.mp4 https://files.catbox.moe/2eqyay.mp4
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The Ballad Of Something Awful These Dead, Gay Forums Reckoning Of Lowtax Though there isn't any reckoning in the song. 
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We need to concoct a way to make it make farty sounds
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https://files.catbox.moe/6tqlfj.mp4 sometimes a failure is a win though
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Apologies for the plagiarism veni veni veni, your lyrics were too inspiring https://voca.ro/18cDyabyeZXk
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This is a fun little toy, and I'm proud people are using it for its ideal purpose: shitposting and making dumb songs. The only thing I'm worried about is if people start using things like this and just trying to generate songs over and over, wasting a lot of their time in a vain bid to shortcut making "real music" when they could use that time to learn basic foundations of how music works and download some free sample packs. It is both sad and funny when I see people trying to sell these generated songs as actual music tho. No one is buying it for the quality, and also why would they pay for it when they could just make their own? I'm gonna play around later and see if I can get *something* to work with, but the lack of direction and options are immediately a little frustrating. Worst case I make shidding fards songs.
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Vegetable posted:I wonder what’s their training data because if they’ve trained on a ton of commercial songs without getting a license, they’re really just in the wild west and there’s no guarantee songs you paid to generate will end up actually belonging to you They definitely have. They're probably making the same bet as every other company using unlicensed data to train AI (or more abstractly, indexing the data) is fair use, which there is legal precedent from Google Books.
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The problem is if you generate a song with lyrics, and then claim you have copywrited song lyrics but you're pointing to something that legally doesn't give you that ownership or protection then the claim that you "own the lyrics" goes out the window. Basically don't use things like this for any IP you actually care about.
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syntaxfunction posted:The problem is if you generate a song with lyrics, and then claim you have copywrited song lyrics but you're pointing to something that legally doesn't give you that ownership or protection then the claim that you "own the lyrics" goes out the window. Suno.ai's licensing gives copyright ownership to subscribers. Whether AI generated works are "created" by those who use it, or by the owners of the software, or not at all is a bit hazy thanks to some rather sloppy grandstanding lawsuits that did little to clear the air (that recent "AI art can't be copyrighted" lawsuit was actually about some crackpot trying to have the copyright attributed to the AI itself, which was denied). Though it's harder to argue that you're just "prompting" the generator in this case, the argument against IP rights for AI generated art is that there is little human control or intent, but lyrics are a foundational element of songwriting, people get specific credits for it and those lyrics directly influence the direction and structure of the generated music. I wouldn't bet my house on it, or even $100, but I don't think it'll be a problem long term.
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I mean suno doesn't provide any more protection than the most basic, innate copyright protection does anyway. I'm just saying if you go to court to protect your AI song against someone else's AI song it might just get a big "who loving cares". Basically they don't offer anything, because US copyright in particular allows copyright from creation. So just writing those lyrics gives you protection, Suno doesn't give you it. Edit: I don't suspect for a minute anyone but an AI obsessed techbro would try to defend their generated songs in a court for record, but I think it'd be very interesting and funny for them to try.
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syntaxfunction posted:I mean suno doesn't provide any more protection than the most basic, innate copyright protection does anyway. What they offer is given copyright applies, they hand it over to you. That is something, though it's not so much protection from external infringement claims but from suno.ai.
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Yeah so I stand by my original stance of don't use any IP you actually really care about lol
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it's... you created an icp kirk johnson song and it's beautiful.
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syntaxfunction posted:I mean suno doesn't provide any more protection than the most basic, innate copyright protection does anyway. You rang? I think it should have been bigger news that literally billions of melodies have been released into the public domain and anyone can use them for free, forever. https://www.openculture.com/2020/03/every-melody-has-been-copyrighted-and-theyre-now-released-into-the-public-domain.html I don't personally know what Suno used to train their model on, I just know that you don't need copyrighted material to train one of these models as there are premade free creative commons datasets already out there. Is this the AI Music thread now? I just looked and it seems that https://www.riffusion.com/ also now has lyrical capabilities, though with only a 25 word limit. Riffusion got its start by taking Spectrogram pictures of the waveform itself and training a Stable Diffusion style Image Model to produce more Spectrograms to be converted back into sound files. This means for every lyric prompt you give it, there are at least 2.14 billion "songs" to be made, with a potential of much more if you go past 32 bit seed values. These are still early days for AI and things are only going to improve from here, fast.
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KwegiboHB posted:You rang? I'm aware if that project yeah, but given that there was a high profile case with Ed Sheeran (altho granted it was more for rhytmic similarity) and this didn't come up at all I'm gonna hang a guess on "no one in the legal world thinks it is worth placing your case on." I dunno, it's cute, but this isn't something where I'd go "oh they said it's fine, no worries then." And I'm not arguing whether the model is using copyright material or not, that's not really my issue. I'm more pointing out that good luck defending anything generated with these tools much like trying to defend your AI art. I don't mind AI stuff at all tbh, but it'd be foolish to expect the same liberties and protections and non-AI material.
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syntaxfunction posted:I'm aware if that project yeah, but given that there was a high profile case with Ed Sheeran (altho granted it was more for rhytmic similarity) and this didn't come up at all I'm gonna hang a guess on "no one in the legal world thinks it is worth placing your case on." I don't know how things will end up. The US copyright office has issued a "Human Authorship Requirement" for AI generated material only partially covering the Human generated parts but there's a possibility that it doesn't actually hold up in court. No one has taken things that far to test it yet. It's worth pointing out that you don't actually need copyright to sell something, only to protect your work if someone else sells something you've created. Anyone can freely sell things from the public domain. I just read Sunos terms and if you have a paid subscription then whatever you make is yours to do as you please, including sell it or use in some commercial project. I don't see anything out of the ordinary here. If someone took you to court over this it would be the same as any other commercial project and would be a case by case... case, heh.
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thank god another loving ai thread
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Code Jockey posted:thank god another loving ai thread 
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KwegiboHB posted:Is this the AI Music thread now? Code Jockey posted:thank god another loving ai thread
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Was "a tribe called quest" always called that? I could swear I listened to "a nation called earth" and they looked like that. https://files.catbox.moe/v6zvyf.mp4 come to think of it last night's rerun of "let's be friends" felt weird too.  https://files.catbox.moe/167rzz.mp4 Must be mandela effect. https://files.catbox.moe/c6p257.mp4
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What the gently caress are the restrictions? Half the songs I try wont work based on "do not use real artists and go for vibes" even though I am not using any of that. I's guessing the poo poo I'm typing has been deemed offensive and it just doesn't tell you that but it's not consistent at all. This program fuckin sucks.
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Both of these came out fire tho https://files.catbox.moe/o4fx5u.mp4 https://files.catbox.moe/d3rtob.mp4
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veni veni veni posted:What the gently caress are the restrictions? Half the songs I try wont work based on "do not use real artists and go for vibes" even though I am not using any of that. I's guessing the poo poo I'm typing has been deemed offensive and it just doesn't tell you that but it's not consistent at all. This program fuckin sucks. Case in point is "joker 2019 movie screenshot" matching 1 to 1 to identical movie still that was recently circulating around. It's not like they care about the originality, they are more concerned about the model actually spewing out the original song, the same way image generators are spewing out training data. Try and translate a song with an automatic translator into german for example (but only select languages, others it lets through just fine) - you will see the exact same error, and it's not because it cares about the content, but because automatic translator uses GPT too, is what I suspect. I have nothing to back any of this up other than my own experimenting, I have tried forcing it to do the lyrics every which way, even did letter substitutions with cyrillic characters, like O to cyrillic O etc, but because it uses text prediction it doesn't care what letters are actually substituted, all it cares about is the text prediction against the database. Here's a fun experiment using metallica: quote:I can't remember anything I asked GPT to change word order to quote:Anything I can't remember then change paragraph order: quote:Now that the war with me is over Nothing got past through the filter, until I change both word order and paragraph order, it now becomes new lyrics and the filter lets it through quote:The war with me is now over Strotski fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Dec 30, 2023 |
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1175902987269439498/1177302788745732256/02fdd0a9-7d19-453e-80de-fa30d9a4e4dc_0.mp4 i wish it had actually finished out the lyrics but whatever
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How did it do this so loving perfectly Enjoy Feces Fest https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...5c12fa802a8dd6& It's actually unreal
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Sorry I cant stop https://files.catbox.moe/9u57il.mp4 https://files.catbox.moe/8t9mgd.mp4
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Also in the second one I can clearly hear the blind guardian song they stole in the background. This is really gonna go well that they are letting people use this trash for commercial purposes.
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[Verse] In the stillness of the marsh, where the lilies bloom There's a sound that you can't ignore, coming from a distant room Frogs assembled on the shore, ribbiting in ecstasy As the mellow fart synth echoes, filling the air with glee --- [Verse] Sitting on the plane, feeling kind of sick Turbulence is bumpy, gotta find a quick fix (oh-yeah) Stomach's turning, can't hold it any longer Here it comes, gonna unleash this monster (ooh-hoo) [Chorus] Vomit fly zone, we're taking off Projectile puke, gonna hit 'em all Vomit fly zone, it's chaos in the air No one's safe when I'm hurlin' everywhere (ooh-yeah, yeah) Reverend Stupid fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Dec 31, 2023 |
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DJ Assault up in this bitch. https://files.catbox.moe/zjc3qc.mp4
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DJ атаковать
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Strotski posted:So I suspect the reason they are actually doing it is because it's checking against (something) if the lyrics match, because if they do - it'd just spew out same song that the lyrics were originally from. Nah, it definitely refuses to do stuff that it deems too offensive/sexual. Seems they only have one error message regardless of the actual issue the program's objecting to. Anyway, https://files.catbox.moe/aw1ay8.mp4
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Devils Affricate posted:Nah, it definitely refuses to do stuff that it deems too offensive/sexual. Yeah if you're doing it wrong.  https://files.catbox.moe/bx3g8p.mp4
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Fartcore please
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Songbearer posted:Fartcore please I tried really hard and I could not get the AI to fart, very disappointing.
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Lmao. I change my mind, gently caress the copyright issues this app is a godsend.
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