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Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Suno is previewing its new version by letting you make Valentines songs https://v-day.suno.ai/
It seems to make more complicated songs with more reliably coherent results

Playing around with it it seems like it avoids the weird trilling that happened a lot in the mix with v2, and I've had none where the lyrics didn't generate. Just one example
https://vdaysong.com/2p8j97fc

If you put [chorus] or [verse] in the first two fields you can just use a normal song prompt and pick your musical style and song subject, but it will be love themed.

A song for [Chorus]. Send love with Suno 💘 https://vdaysong.com/56956864

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Feb 7, 2024

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Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I made a new album of songs that mainly uses variations of the tag Krautrock, experimental, minimalistic, Robot Pop.
Listen to New World Disorders, an album by Brown Moses on #SoundCloud
https://on.soundcloud.com/K9uEf

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Is there a Discord to discuss AI generative audio focused more on using this stuff as part of an audio production pipeline? I'm starting to noodle with MIDI and VST filters and all that.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

There's a Suno.ai Discord if you've not tried that yet
https://discord.com/invite/suno-ai

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

There was some discussion to be had there but it's mostly people posting raw output. I'd prefer something not explicitly tied to an existing company, too.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
V3 Alpha is out for paying members, fyi. I haven't messed with it much yet, won't be able to till later. It can at least start with two minute generations.

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



KakerMix posted:

V3 Alpha is out for paying members, fyi. I haven't messed with it much yet, won't be able to till later. It can at least start with two minute generations.

the one thing I want is a bump in audio quality

I can get great music out of the thing but it all sounds like it's playing over AM radio

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I've had a chance to play around with v3. There's a few nice improvements. The audio quality, coherence, and complexity of songs has improved, although it seems less prone to interesting weirdness if you're into that sort of thing.

There's some additions that help with song generation. You can now choose to generate a song as just an instrumental and rename songs. The best new addition is that you can now continue a track from which ever point you choose, so you can trim off the bits where it sounds crap or endlessly repeats the same phrase for a minute. The initial generated clip is now 2 minutes long instead of 1:20.

The only problem I'm encountering at the moment is the lyrics repeating and getting mashed into each other as songs progress, but hopefully that's something they fix soon.

This is something I put together in 90 minutes using original lyrics, to give a sense of what you can do.

https://on.soundcloud.com/dZQfw

PaleFigure
Sep 3, 2007

the other white meat

Brown Moses posted:

There's some additions that help with song generation. You can now choose to generate a song as just an instrumental and rename songs. The best new addition is that you can now continue a track from which ever point you choose, so you can trim off the bits where it sounds crap or endlessly repeats the same phrase for a minute. The initial generated clip is now 2 minutes long instead of 1:20.

This is the best news I've heard in a while, and solves the majority of the issues I've had with song generation up to now. Looks like I'll have to go back to it this weekend and revisit some projects I left on the back burner ages ago.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
I'm having a ton of fun with v3. It's far more musically capable. It prompts a lot different than v2. If you've ever used image generative AI things then you already know that prompting changes between model releases, Suno is no different. It makes structured songs now. It's still in alpha so it gets real weird when you are trying to continue lyrics past the initial start.

http://puu.sh/K1BOL/517bb1c8d2.mp4


Personally I've always been more into the music side and it's fantastic for that imho, avoids the lyrics continuation issues people are having.

http://puu.sh/K1BOe/c601819c7b.mp4
http://puu.sh/K1BPf/6e1c48844c.mp4
https://puu.sh/K1BOo/5713459e32.mp4

KakerMix fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Feb 25, 2024

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I've mostly focused on instrumentals while I've been waiting for the issue with repeating lyrics to be fixed, put a few of them together here

https://on.soundcloud.com/KDwzD

It seems handle diverse styles being mashed together better than v2, and it seems like you can add more music tags and it'll pick up on specific instrument tags more reliably as well.

Roman
Aug 8, 2002

I'm having fun with the v3 instrumental options. I had it make a John Carpenterish theme for one of my characters. It's the first track on my project playlist.

https://soundcloud.com/romanisnotonline/sets/low-key-superstar

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



https://files.catbox.moe/6kskps.mp4

Like when you beat Blades of Steel

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

I'm trying to make an instrumental track that sounds like a retro news theme, a corporate training video, or an early 90s infomercial. The best examples I can think of are the background songs from Tim & Eric's Awesome Show ads, or the Wii Training theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwxqfEMiO0g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElbU-hK4Peo

How would one describe this in a way Suno understands?

Edit: This is the best I could come up with so far.

https://app.suno.ai/song/c3674f82-6ad2-474c-9796-e5e570d9714a

It's ok but it still sounds a little too house-y and modern, like M83 or Ulrich Schnauss.

Dick Jones fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Feb 27, 2024

Roman
Aug 8, 2002

KakerMix posted:

Personally I've always been more into the music side and it's fantastic for that imho, avoids the lyrics continuation issues people are having.
I'm enjoying making instrumentals but putting vocals ("female vocals, etc.") in the prompt so it makes some neat melodies with nonsense (I think?) vocalizations.

https://app.suno.ai/song/dc7b13ef-91eb-4149-9557-65a29f11881c

Roman
Aug 8, 2002

got bored so I made a fake 2010 goth industrial album using silly awful lyrics I wrote back in the 90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwVnHwdRtoA

Roman fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Mar 3, 2024

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

https://voca.ro/16Z4kDa6zzS2
I request that you listen to the wip of my song quest of the best of the best of the test lest I get stressed

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Actually sounds good. They must've improved the model too because initially it was hard to hear the words when I tried it when it came out.

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

One way, dead end... Street signs are such fitting metaphors for the human condition.


I punched in the free software song :unsmith:

https://app.suno.ai/song/56cafbef-b8df-44a4-95c3-3fb269306e8d

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I've been using the v3 alpha of Suno.ai a lot, and there's some pretty significant improvements that make it more of a tool for creating music rather than just another AI generation toy. The most significant of which is the ability to start from any point in the previous clip. This means you can be a lot more precise about how your song develops, rather than just adding stuff to the end of the complete clip. It's also possible to give much more complicated prompts, and select purely instrumental generations. This means you can put something like "5 note industrial deep synth arpeggio loop", see what results you get, then start the next clip from 10 seconds into the start of the original clip, and add another sound to the audio in the new generations. I've been playing around with that a lot, and here's a couple of examples:

This is an attempt to recreate the sound of Delerium, which has a new age, world beat sort of vibe.
https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/...=social_sharing
I started with variations of various tribal drum prompts, then around 10 seconds in I bring in a synth loop, and 10s after that an ethereal female choir, which Delerium loves to use. 50s in I add a plinky piano break, and that gives me the form for the rest of the song.

This one is based on Frontline Assembly, going for a sample heavy electro-industrial sound, starting with a choir, more arpeggio loops, a guitar loop, a darker synth loop, scratching, and then some more guitar. This is all selected through several prompts, one every 10s or so:
https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/...=social_sharing

It also handles mashing up style really well. This song is generated based on a prompt for reggae and industrial music, and it does a good job of combining the two genres:
https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/...=social_sharing

It also handles acoustic music a lot better, this is a bit of blues jamming that I put together to see how well it handled it:
https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/meaningless-blues

Overall I think v3 alpha turns Suno.ai into a tool for not just generating music, but, with a little effort, actually a tool for making music. 5 stars, would recommend.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
What a great, great toy/tool. V3 really is something else. I went back and remade stuff I had in v2 that I liked decently enough

80s hair metal ballad about a never ending box of Slim Jims
http://puu.sh/K2MjC/d3d7ad1f85.mp4

Lady smoothly singing about how she hoards gum
http://puu.sh/K2MjW/e58834cd90.mp4

I plugged in my local weather report without formatting at all and got this, think early 90s kinda goofy, clean style.
http://puu.sh/K2MkD/2b22ed1678.mp4

Ancient Bones whisper to this lady, she's a pretty good singer. The lyrics shown in the video are not correct at all to start because I ended up taking the intro from a totally unrelated song and then built off that. Suno doesn't have a way to edit things so that's why a whole different song is there to start. I thought the intro was really nice and took it in a different direction.
http://puu.sh/K2MkW/844d57b7ff.mp4

The quality is lacking, pretend you're listening to it through a blown speaker in a 74 Trans Am. These guys REFUSE to believe in Chevrolets or Chryslers. 70s rock song.
http://puu.sh/K2MmE/cfd4e3da58.mp4

Starts with a conversation, a senator being questioned, he's been accused. Turns into a Tears for Fears-esque 80s ballad. This is the song I like the most right now because it tickles my brain in all the right ways.
http://puu.sh/K2MrG/38b73a09f4.mp4

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

One way, dead end... Street signs are such fitting metaphors for the human condition.


I hate how good all of those are. How do we uninvent something?

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



https://cdn1.suno.ai/08ecc1bb-b8a4-4d9b-8c7d-6b8b7707c7cf.mp4

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



How do you separate the music style description from what you want in the lyrics? I keep ending up having someone singing about the music prompts

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Can you share an example of the prompt you're using?

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



Snowy posted:

How do you separate the music style description from what you want in the lyrics? I keep ending up having someone singing about the music prompts

Use v3 if you aren't, it tends to stick to your lyrics better than v2. Custom mode too.

https://cdn1.suno.ai/65b02fed-ab65-45be-9772-040ea3b433e2.mp4

Oh this was good
https://cdn1.suno.ai/8823c75d-beb4-4d95-b450-b43cb9000914.mp4

Longpig Bard fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Mar 16, 2024

mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005

KakerMix posted:

I'm having a ton of fun with v3. It's far more musically capable.

What is Math Synth. Is it just complex synth compositions or is it mathrock inspired synth playing?

Does that genre exist outside of Ai prompts?

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



mazzi Chart Czar posted:

What is Math Synth. Is it just complex synth compositions or is it mathrock inspired synth playing?

Does that genre exist outside of Ai prompts?

Doesn't have to exist, if it has info on what math is and what synth is, it will just blend them together.

LegionAreI
Nov 14, 2006
Lurk
I am obsessed with this thing.

First, a blues song about not being able to find a toilet. This one took A LOT of fiddling around, but watching it "figure out" blues improv as I tried to generate the instrumental break was pretty fun.

The Crossroads of Desperation
https://cdn1.suno.ai/fa2b983e-4bc6-4335-adb5-be3454369ff8.mp4

Next, a magical girl anime opening in kpoppy style. Got a bit of a hitch at the beginning that annoyed me but I loved the riff too much to ditch it.

Awake and Alive
https://cdn1.suno.ai/a0db3181-b734-40d4-a662-8d7d28ec19fe.mp4

And finally someone told me "there's no way" it could do something in Dreamcatcher-esque dark k-pop rock style. Not perfect but knockoff b-side? Sure!

Bloodlust
https://cdn1.suno.ai/3652ed8c-1736-45ce-93ff-3622fe0224b6.mp4

I have made many people very sad with this site, but I am very happy.

Things I want: editing the lyrics when I have to overlap stuff and extra things are left in.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

V3 of Suno is now available to everyone. From the Suno Discord:

quote:

## Introducing v3
Hey @everyone, we are excited to introduce v3, our first model capable of producing radio-quality music. v3 enables you to make full, two-minute songs in seconds and is now available to **all** users:

**https://app.suno.ai

For more details, see our blog post linked on X:

**https://twitter.com/suno_ai_/status/1770857426507399285**

## Features & Improvements
Thank you to all of our Pro and Premier members, who helped us test and improve v3 Alpha. v3 incorporates your feedback and features a number of improvements, most notably:
🔉 Better audio quality
🎵 More styles and genres
🎯 Improved prompt adherence, including fewer hallucinations and more graceful endings

You can make better music with v3, but we have a lot more work to do. We're still in the early innings of Suno, and we'll continue improving along the axes of quality, control and speed.

v4 is already under development, and we're working around the clock on some new, exciting features we're looking forward to sharing with you soon.

## Trust & Safety
Suno is designed for creating original music, and our models don't recognize references to other artists. We are not here to make more Fake Drakes.

To further protect against misuse, we have developed proprietary, inaudible watermarking technology that can detect whether a song was created using Suno.

## Social Media
Please share your favorite creations on social media, and tag us at `@suno_ai_` on X, Instagram and TikTok:
◦ **X:** https://twitter.com/suno_ai_
◦ **Instagram:** https://www.instagram.com/suno_ai_
◦ **TikTok:** https://www.tiktok.com/@suno_ai_

## Thank You
Thank you, as always, for including us in your creative process. We hope you enjoy v3 and look forward to hearing what you create!

All the best,
Team Suno

The V3 Alpha definitely ironed out the worst issues (songs ending and restarting, lyrics being repeated) and added handy features like making playlists. I have a few playlists for interesting instrumental stems, weirdness that might end up as more experimental tracks, and for songs I'm currently working on. V3 makes coherent tracks more reliably than v2, but what you love will generally be a matter of personal taste.

I've made loads of tracks at this point, probably tens of thousands of generated clips, and this is my favourite from my V3 gens

https://on.soundcloud.com/BCzNv

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



You can choose a specific time to continue a song now, too. That's nice to skip 45 seconds of something dragging the song out too much.

I'm trying to get it to shift instruments or tempo while continuing but it's tough. I got it to put a sax in the song by basically going "sax, sax solo, SAXAPHONE, WHERE IS MY SAX?, SAX SAX SAX"

Longpig Bard fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Mar 24, 2024

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



Longpig Bard posted:

You can choose a specific time to continue a song now, too. That's nice to skip 45 seconds of something dragging the song out too much.

I'm trying to get it to shift instruments or tempo while continuing but it's tough. I got it to put a sax in the song by basically going "sax, sax solo, SAXAPHONE, WHERE IS MY SAX?, SAX SAX SAX"


here's your fuckin' sax!

https://cdn1.suno.ai/6b5c74bd-e78a-45d9-af48-938467b862e2.mp4

a dangerous thot
Dec 19, 2016
v3 does Nasheed https://app.suno.ai/song/62b4b25f-7c1a-46cc-ab0b-bdd38be4e7ac/

a dangerous thot
Dec 19, 2016
Suno will still sometimes add instruments so they arent 'nasheeds'

'Use a Keyboard and Mouse' https://app.suno.ai/song/8230f085-6257-4fc4-b3e3-5fa2817f6623/

'AI Singularity' https://app.suno.ai/song/ab42bca7-abed-4277-81c8-76031370c81b/

'Escape' https://app.suno.ai/song/9cef0274-db3d-4543-9d7b-6e9677d9e7f9/

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
http://puu.sh/K3zan/fd74cd315a.mp4

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



Haha poo poo pants

https://app.suno.ai/song/2a8df84c-91c9-4737-85a2-c86f4cbd94ec/

Friggin month subscription ended right in the middle of this, I had like a thousand credits left gently caress

Soulhunter
Dec 2, 2005

Live at the Chuckle Hut
https://app.suno.ai/song/ed036f52-37c4-48b7-b571-6319c9cb5100/

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

One way, dead end... Street signs are such fitting metaphors for the human condition.



I appreciate that Lowtax gave stand up a go

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

One way, dead end... Street signs are such fitting metaphors for the human condition.


I noticed you can use V3 for free now, I wondered what it would be like if Slowdive sang about eggs

https://app.suno.ai/song/493a050e-a143-4db2-9d2f-047058112563

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Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009


I went to the doctor, he said its cancer
Crowd laughs

Sounds about right

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