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I've been using Suno non-stop since its release, and put together 3 albums of what I hope are gradually improving albums: 48k Dreams - About the ZX Spectrum 48k Offcuts - Random songs that I thought were worth completing VGiHKAL - About games I like. My latest is about overproduced media content and AI generated content being soulless: https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/...=social_sharing I've been using ChatGPT to create musical style tags for specific artists, which gives better results than using an artist's name in a prompt. The above song was an attempt to mimic Delerium, which ChatGPT gave me the style tags Ambient, Ethereal, Dreamy, Soft-Synth, Melancholic. I'm working on a song using tags ChatGPT selected for Kraftwerk, "Electronic, Krautrock, Synth-Pop, Minimalism, Experimental, Robot Pop", which has been producing excellent results. The big challenge with creating long songs is keeping out audio noise, which tends to build and get worse as songs go on. Usually I'm using 100s of generations to complete a single song. The Delerium-esque one above emerged from about 1000 separate files, with everything done in Suno (apart from lyrics).
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Another AI music tool I've come across is Moises.ai, which is sort of an AI driven music studio. One tool it has it it can break songs into separate audio tracks, and seems to work pretty well with Suno tracks I've put into it, as well as AI driven track mastering: https://studio.moises.ai/
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Dec 29, 2023 15:36
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SCheeseman posted:If you continue the song and give it the missing lyrics it sometimes finishes it. Sometimes. It feels like sometimes you need to figure out what exactly the AI wants to get the line to finish. Sometimes you can just put the line from where it was cut off, other times it works better if you include the entire line, other times it'll just be weird and random whatever you do. I had one song that insisted on putting "I'm not a fan of the music, I'm a fan of the music" on 90% of the generations I made it continue the song.
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Dec 29, 2023 15:45
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One thing to note with the links to songs on Suno is you can actually continue from the clips even if you didn't make them yourself, so if you like something you can turn it into a full song. I made another song where I tried really hard to keep out the audio noise that usually makes thing sound terrible on speakers: https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/...=social_sharing
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SCheeseman posted:I finally gave this a go and uh it works. I have so much more control over mixing the songs holy poo poo. Thanks for sharing that, I'm trying to figure out how much of an improvement I can make to tracks I've made using all these tools. I'm using Suno a lot, and I've had plenty of time to experiment with it. I've figured out a few methods to make the most of it: I started using ChatGPT and asking "If you had to make one or two word tags for aspects of X song/bands musical style, rhythm, instrumentation, etc, what would they be?" That gives some interesting results for tags, and they often seem to work well. Then I use those tags in Suno and it does a lot better job of making songs in specific styles. A couple that I've enjoyed are Kraftwerk style - Electronic, Krautrock, industrial, Robot Pop Beastie Boys - Turntablism, East Coast Hip-Hop, Experimental, funky beats, Electronic, boom bap Also keep in mind the song is heavily impacted by the lyrical structure, syllables in particular. I've been writing songs in Moises' lyric tool, which automatically counts syllables as you write, and can make suggestions for lines as you type. I tried ChatGPT and Bard, but they can't reliably count syllables. That means you can have some control over the song if you manage your syllable count on each line, and Suno does recognise a number of musical instructions, like [Crescendo]. You can also use square tags to introduce musical styles or instruments into the song. I suspect once there's a certain number of instruments in the song, you have to wait for one to fade away for a new instrument to start playing.
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I put together an eight track album, AI Generated Music As A Medium For Uninspired Media Critique And Comment, covering topics like AI generated revenge porn, the cancellation of Freaks and Geeks, and finding out 80s family films aren't so family friendly nowadays. https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/sets/ai-generated-music-as-a-medium
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Suno is previewing its new version by letting you make Valentines songs https://v-day.suno.ai/ It seems to make more complicated songs with more reliably coherent results Playing around with it it seems like it avoids the weird trilling that happened a lot in the mix with v2, and I've had none where the lyrics didn't generate. Just one example https://vdaysong.com/2p8j97fc If you put [chorus] or [verse] in the first two fields you can just use a normal song prompt and pick your musical style and song subject, but it will be love themed. A song for [Chorus]. Send love with Suno 💘 https://vdaysong.com/56956864 Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Feb 7, 2024 |
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I made a new album of songs that mainly uses variations of the tag Krautrock, experimental, minimalistic, Robot Pop. Listen to New World Disorders, an album by Brown Moses on #SoundCloud https://on.soundcloud.com/K9uEf
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Feb 10, 2024 14:32
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There's a Suno.ai Discord if you've not tried that yet https://discord.com/invite/suno-ai
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I've had a chance to play around with v3. There's a few nice improvements. The audio quality, coherence, and complexity of songs has improved, although it seems less prone to interesting weirdness if you're into that sort of thing. There's some additions that help with song generation. You can now choose to generate a song as just an instrumental and rename songs. The best new addition is that you can now continue a track from which ever point you choose, so you can trim off the bits where it sounds crap or endlessly repeats the same phrase for a minute. The initial generated clip is now 2 minutes long instead of 1:20. The only problem I'm encountering at the moment is the lyrics repeating and getting mashed into each other as songs progress, but hopefully that's something they fix soon. This is something I put together in 90 minutes using original lyrics, to give a sense of what you can do. https://on.soundcloud.com/dZQfw
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I've mostly focused on instrumentals while I've been waiting for the issue with repeating lyrics to be fixed, put a few of them together here https://on.soundcloud.com/KDwzD It seems handle diverse styles being mashed together better than v2, and it seems like you can add more music tags and it'll pick up on specific instrument tags more reliably as well.
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I've been using the v3 alpha of Suno.ai a lot, and there's some pretty significant improvements that make it more of a tool for creating music rather than just another AI generation toy. The most significant of which is the ability to start from any point in the previous clip. This means you can be a lot more precise about how your song develops, rather than just adding stuff to the end of the complete clip. It's also possible to give much more complicated prompts, and select purely instrumental generations. This means you can put something like "5 note industrial deep synth arpeggio loop", see what results you get, then start the next clip from 10 seconds into the start of the original clip, and add another sound to the audio in the new generations. I've been playing around with that a lot, and here's a couple of examples: This is an attempt to recreate the sound of Delerium, which has a new age, world beat sort of vibe. https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/...=social_sharing I started with variations of various tribal drum prompts, then around 10 seconds in I bring in a synth loop, and 10s after that an ethereal female choir, which Delerium loves to use. 50s in I add a plinky piano break, and that gives me the form for the rest of the song. This one is based on Frontline Assembly, going for a sample heavy electro-industrial sound, starting with a choir, more arpeggio loops, a guitar loop, a darker synth loop, scratching, and then some more guitar. This is all selected through several prompts, one every 10s or so: https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/...=social_sharing It also handles mashing up style really well. This song is generated based on a prompt for reggae and industrial music, and it does a good job of combining the two genres: https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/...=social_sharing It also handles acoustic music a lot better, this is a bit of blues jamming that I put together to see how well it handled it: https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/meaningless-blues Overall I think v3 alpha turns Suno.ai into a tool for not just generating music, but, with a little effort, actually a tool for making music. 5 stars, would recommend.
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Can you share an example of the prompt you're using?
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V3 of Suno is now available to everyone. From the Suno Discord:quote:## Introducing v3 The V3 Alpha definitely ironed out the worst issues (songs ending and restarting, lyrics being repeated) and added handy features like making playlists. I have a few playlists for interesting instrumental stems, weirdness that might end up as more experimental tracks, and for songs I'm currently working on. V3 makes coherent tracks more reliably than v2, but what you love will generally be a matter of personal taste. I've made loads of tracks at this point, probably tens of thousands of generated clips, and this is my favourite from my V3 gens https://on.soundcloud.com/BCzNv
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A lot of the Suno community are annoyed that the V3 update is actually has inferior sound quality to the V3alpha that ran beforehand. It seems like that's the case to me as well, so you might want to hold off a bit before splurging too many credits.
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I've been using lyrics I write for Suno songs to create Udio songs, and there's a few I've noticed. Udio seems to make more "chaotic" tracks, and the inability to start the next part of the track from where ever you want needs to be introduced as soon as possible, but the recreation of instruments and voices seems a lot better than Suno. Most importantly to me, the audio quality is much higher, with none of the weird background noises you get with Suno. Here's one example on Suno, using the electronic, experimental, robot pop, krautrock, minimalistic tags: https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/anything-you-want The Udio version just uses the tag "minimalistic" https://www.udio.com/songs/mBNGGQ6ybb2LGFCJGQW2Uf What I discovered with that track is the tracks on Udio currently have a maximum length, unlike Suno, so watch out for that when you're making tracks. I also found you have to be careful with exactly what happens at the end of a clip you plan to extend, because if it goes quiet or has a weird glitch in it that'll cause annoying weirdness in the next part of the song.
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I just tried it with a couple of obscure artists' albums and the prompt was blocked until I removed one style tag, so it looks like you're right.
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SCheeseman posted:I don't see myself going back to Suno any time soon. Udio launched without a few critical features but it sounds so much better and they've now closed the feature gap and then some. Udio had added even more features today quote:Hi everyone! We know that organizing your extensions can be challenging so we are excited to launch our first version of track tree history. If you select "Show Track History" from the track dropdown, you can see a folder like tree view with every track connected to the selected track, both where it originated from and its descendants. When you generate tracks related to the current tree you are viewing, they should automatically populate into the page. It seems like they're racing ahead of Suno.ai in terms of quality and capabilities. Unless Suno v4 is a massive leap in sound quality and interface design, it's going to be left in the dust. [edit] And they just added two more major changes quote:Hi everyone, we've been monitoring your feedback and have a few more updates for you: [edit 2] They also just announced they're adding 200 credits to everyone's accounts so they can make more tunes with the new changes. Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 15:58 on May 1, 2024 |
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Eurovision Party Time (which has a chorus that's catchier than 90% of Eurovision songs) https://www.udio.com/songs/3fQsw6wE4ab1Rx6Keya7KX
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My entry for the Udio NBA Playoff song competition, about being a Brit who doesn't understand basketball, in an early 2000s indie Brit rock style https://www.udio.com/songs/qHpuL7Dxm6aEAS8Ait6AHG A Depeche Mode/Human League style song about getting a ZX Spectrum 48k for the first time https://www.udio.com/songs/21P1EpuyXMb8kEfiK34Roc Another 80s synthpop song, about bedroom coding on the ZX Spectrum 48k https://www.udio.com/songs/dEeoQtk5XQ6UaoGUEVtp7R
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May 5, 2024 17:53
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One thing to note with Udio prompts is the text limit is very long, so if you want to do a song on a very specific subject you can just copy and paste text from Wikipedia or a ChatGPT summary of the topic into the prompt. Now you can make all the songs you like about very niche topics only you care about.
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An epic prog rock song about Elite, which kinda sounds like Genesis https://www.udio.com/songs/bJWWe5mM7U6iWgaBRyAQqT
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I also discovered today that it appears Udio can detect when a song sounds too much like a real life artist, preventing you from extending the song. This song, which sounds a lot like the Pet Shop Boys, throws up continual moderation errors if I try to extend it https://www.udio.com/songs/nL4wQVUtpaYkWqiAGpWayN
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Udio has released a subscription service and a new feature. Udio now has inpainting, so you can select parts of tracks, and recreate them, even with new lyrics. Here's my latest, about Jet Set Willy https://on.soundcloud.com/7qxQ1
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I'm 7 tracks into an album that's about the ZX Spectrum 48k in the style of genres you'd expect to encounter on 1981-1989 MTV https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/sets/48k-dreams-revisited I asked ChatGPT to give me a paragraph or two summary of the subject of each song, then added that to the end of the prompt, which helped keep things on topic. Generally, I made 30-50 new clips at once and listened to them, liked the best ones, and then reviewed them again until I narrowed it down to one. Then I just repeated thar again and again until I had a song.
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