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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

The Islamic Shock posted:

That Branco has me wondering since I've surprisingly never looked into it: what is the conservative reaction to the lives of people they like being materially improved from liberal policies in ways that can't be ignored?

(I've probably never observed this in action because lol at liberals directly, obviously and on any kind of wide scale helping people in America through their wonderful oops always capitalist representatives)

Just anecdotally every conservative I know was absolutely furious when parents started getting the federal childcare credits.

I briefly thought it might save the trifecta and guarantee Biden's reelection, until Dems saw how popular it was and went "oops popular policy we can't do that" and let it expire

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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Skios posted:


Steve Benson



Buddy...

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

the_steve posted:

Eh, I get their point. Keep calling every single election the "most important one ever!!!111!!1!! :supaburn:" and it's going to start ringing real fuckin' hollow.
Is it really so hard to believe that every election is more important than the last?

I think it's a pretty reasonable proposition, which is why I'm not sweating 2024 too much. We can easily afford to throw our votes away on a 3rd party or something because there will be a more important election coming up in 2028 anyway. And an even more important one 4 years after that. And then an EVEN MORE important one...

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

JamesBont posted:

Are conservatives really shocked about Green Day just now? They've been doing this since the W.Bush years with songs like "American Idiot" and "Holiday".

They were offended by Green Day back then too, they just get dopamine hits from constant outrage so they never ever get over anything.

Except for the ones who were young and apolitical in the Bush years and became Republicans since, they might be finding out just now that a band from their childhood was singing about people like them back then.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Trapezium Dave posted:

Rall: Rituals Are Fun


It's funny that there are all kinds of reasonable critiques of American elections (for example: "voting only changes the color of the kiddy prison administrators' ties from red to blue or back to red again"), yet Rall goes with, basically, "democracy is fake because other people's votes count too, not just mine"

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Trapezium Dave posted:

Rall: It's Democratic If the Constitution Says It


I feel like it undermines his point somewhat that he spent four years drawing Trump as Literally Hitler and slamming liberals for treating him like a normal politician instead of an existential threat.

Like, which is it

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Guavanaut posted:

You're forgetting that the most important thing is that Tod Roll is so controversial that he doesn't agree with anything in the mainstream.

Many people are saying things similar to what he may or may not have said years ago, so Tad can't possibly agree with those things now.
Ted Rall 1940: why is Roosevelt at peace with Hitler? That makes him and the Democrats as bad as Hitler!

Ted Rall April 1945: Roosevelt says he wants a peaceful world but he's bombing Hitler! Hypocrite much? Is Eisenhower afraid Hitler will beat him in an intellectual debate?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Victar posted:

This unironic AGC explains exactly how Texan taxpayers are being screwed over by crypto mining and the state government's terrible policies. While it may deserve its "Too Many Words" nomination, it also deserves something better, so I'm making up a category on the spot.

Kellies Nomination: Best Crypto Comic

Yeppp it extremely sucks (the situation in Texas, not the comic)

Abbott is absolutely making GBS threads money all over these crypto miners meanwhile blackouts happen in winter storms and everyone else is asked to conserve in the summer, and the "power supply adjustment" fee is now as much as the power bill itself

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I would just like to note that this rule would have kept FDR out of office.

I'm sure the Democrats could find some other inbred aristocrat to open up concentration camps for the Japanese.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

World Famous W posted:

you can just say you think tara reade's accusations are lies instead of trying to be coy

She's not even the only one you have to say like 7 other women are lying and that some of them somehow deepfaked videos and got them on C-SPAN.

And also yeah, Bill Clinton, which makes it doubly ridiculous for a guy Clay Bennet's age to be all astonished and outraged that Republicans would overlook sexual assault from their team, like come on dude you voted for Bill, and not just you...a major Democratic SuperPAC was literally named after the concept of Moving On from holding a president accountable for rapes.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jan 23, 2024

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

InsertPotPun posted:

ok...but how do you express that on a primary ballot for one party?

Show both primary ballots and have the point of the cartoon be how dire the whole state of affairs is? (Well ok I guess for New Hampshire you'd have to show Biden on the write-in line but whatever).

But if that's not the cartoon he wants to draw, then I don't know how one can pearl-clutch about how depraved Republicans are for picking a sex creep without looking like a hypocrite about it, because it is hypocritical. A bunch of Republicans are making the exact same lesser-evil calculation (from their perspective) that Democrats are. Yes he's personally immoral and a creep but the other guy will do so much damage to the country if he wins that we have no choice. And there's something to that reasoning, but it's so so silly to be scandalized that the other team is reasoning the same way about personal morality versus policy consequences of the other guy winning.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

I'm criticizing his point for being hypocritical, it's his choice to be that, but if he does it's hardly unfair or unreasonable of me to point it out.

You asked me how he could salvage the cartoon from charges of hypocrisy, I'm afraid the only way to do that is by drawing it with a different, non-hypocritical point.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jan 24, 2024

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Most of the appeal of this thread is getting to make ourselves mad over the worst political takes of all time. This thread has Yakov Kirschen in it.

Sometimes a bad take will come from a Democrat, you've just gotta roll with it.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

JamesBont posted:

To be fair, that broke a lot of people, including me. I don't want to think how I'll be if Trump wins again

I feel like that guy in Austin Powers who just stands there and shouts "noooooo" as a steamroller slowly bears down on him from a long ways away.

I can see it coming to crush me yet I can't get out of the way.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Microplastics posted:

I don't get it but lmao @ that last panel

Rush Limbaugh encouraged Republicans to register as Democrats and vote for Hillary in the 2008 primaries to stop Obama.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

It's pretty funny that the people who get the angriest at being told gender is a social construct are also compelled to assign gender to sexless objects.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Speakers of Romance languages?

I wouldn't call them sexless objects

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Thread lore correction: Day By Day was banned because the main character raped his wife in order to fix an opinion that wasn't conservative enough (she was uncomfortable with being too cruel to her slutty liberal sister).

It was not banned for child porn because to the best of my knowledge* Muir has not drawn actual child porn. He remains technically within the law by covering the naked kids with strategically placed scenery, similar to what Sinfest does now when Ishida draws child strippers and prostitutes to show how evil the "libs" are for wanting to see that.

*This knowledge could be out of date because I am too afraid to read the comic to be sure.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Phlegmish posted:

That's just lazy as poo poo, it's two static talking heads every single time.

I genuinely think that Dilbert used to be pretty funny for a newspaper comic that started in the eighties. Then I read some of his more recent cartoons a while back, and it just wasn't there anymore. Not even necessarily the increasingly prominent 'chud' talking points, the new stuff simply lacks heart and is needlessly meanspirited, like Adams had a significant personality shift over the years.
That's how the original Dilbert was too, it became a comic about an everyman hero versus soulless corporate nonsense thanks to reader feedback. Scott put his email address on the comics and drew what people wanted to see.

The recent stuff where, for example, only stupid and lazy employees use their paid time off and taking a vacation is basically stealing from the company, are Scott's real unfiltered beliefs.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

So this was a lie then?

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1180506681459040256

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

It was a pretty straightforward statement, no qualifications about congress or President Manchin in there.

Unless Biden doesn't now how the US government works...

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VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Feb 27, 2024

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Presidents routinely talk about their role in terms of leader of their party and not just as the the article 2 executive, because that's what the presidency is.

Jumping on people for simply repeating the President's words is ridiculous. A president should be able to shepherd his agenda through congress (iirc one if the arguments for voting Biden was that he had senate connections and knew how to get things done and even reach across the aisle to get Republican support, then he gets in and can't manage his own party).

If a president can't get his agenda passed, it is a failure, your 8th grade civics education wasn't enough to understand how government works. There's a reason Carter is considered an ineffective president: he wasn't able to work with his own party in congress to accomplish a domestic agenda.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

skeleton warrior posted:

it still makes Biden's tweet aspirational about his effectiveness, not a lie which was your original, intentionally incendiary statement.
It wasn't a statement, it was a question to examine what you were saying. You're jumping on someone for simply saying what the president said and when this is pointed out, doing a bunch of gymnastics to add imaginary caveats to reconcile Biden's words with what you think they ought to be.

Nobody thinks about the presidency the way you're scolding people to, not even the president himself who routinely makes promises to pass an agenda, not to simply wait around and hope someone else does something that he can then support, because that is not the the role of the president who is a political leader not simply a functionary with a rubber stamp.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

If it's the word "Biden" that's an impediment to understanding, substitute Trump who also came into office with a trifecta and a long list of promises. Was he an effective president, why or why not?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

It was a question, it literally had a question mark lol. I'm not trying to make you mad, I'm just pointing out that what Alhazred said is what Biden said and they're not wrong.

If you don't understand that the president is a party leader who is expected to be able to get laws passed, not passively wait for someone else to do it, you're not going to understand why anything happens in politics

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011



Omg lol someone reported a cartoon edit

MOD EDIT (Inferior Third Season): Checking to see if your own post has been reported is a bit weird in itself, but it is even weirder that you edit the post to declare to everyone that it has been reported. The only reason I can think of to do this is to create a hostile environment for others, so that they will hesitate reporting your posts in the future, lest they also be called out for making a "stupid report". This is interfering with forum moderation, and if I see it again, you will be taking an extended break (longer than the one you're currently on).

Somebody fucked around with this message at 12:06 on Feb 29, 2024

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Lmao :love:

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Phlegmish posted:

I was going to say something about the appropriateness of C-SPAM being depicted as a child
That's why the metaphor is great it works on so many levels

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

How is he still bitching about Whitmer it's been 4 years, how can you be that traumatized from not getting to go to Applebee's for a few months.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

It's wild how much conservative women hate women

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

:drat:

Kellies nomination: best overall

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Akratic Method posted:

You cram a pole through the hole for your candidate and it pierces the paper ballot, which of course you definitely 100% aligned correctly underneath ensuring that the hole will be in the right place (and, again, 100% removing the paper in the hole or it doesn't count) to be counted by the machine for the desired vote.

It's probably a punch card type of system that reads them, if you know about those old things from computer history.
It was great, actual legal arguments about whether dimpled chads (the peg dented the paper but didn't pierce it) should count and how much of the hanging chad could be connected to the ballot and still count as well.

And what happens if the chad falls off over the course of multiple hand recounts.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Mar 8, 2024

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Jfc talk about becoming the villain in your own story


For a second I thought this was AGC about the GOP coming out as pro- lead pipes
https://twitter.com/KrisKobach1787/status/1765935595702919299

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

skeleton warrior posted:

Kellies nomination: Oops I forgot to tell a joke

This is literally what happened? Biden said he made a mistake using the term “illegal”, and while the White House is picking a stupid semantic fight over whether Biden is “apologizing” for it or not (https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/biden-apologize-term-illegal-state-union-white-house/story?id=108016777) it’s what happened?

I guess the joke is supposed to be that it’s good and cool to refer to people as illegals, and that Biden should have been apologizing for being the worst president ever? I dunno, I don’t want to understand how Kelley thinks, it’s awful in his head

The intended joke is that he should be apologizing for not machine-gunning everyone who approaches the border, yes.

The comic also works on AGC level: instead of apologizing for engaging in the right's racist fear mongering against immigrants, he's apologizing for using a bad word

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Mar 12, 2024

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Lotta things he on that list...


Too soon

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Phlegmish posted:

It's difficult to articulate why I despise Prickly City so much, since theoretically it's inoffensive by design, but I think that's precisely it. Stantis projects this air of moral superiority, but there's no substance to what he feels morally superior about, he never says anything, he never takes a stand except to dismiss those who do, there's just nothing. There are words in his cartoons, but they're completely empty and hollow. His output is an entirely pointless waste of time.

It's usually juxtaposed with the alcoholic duck, very similar in terms of decent art despite the blatant laziness, but even though I personally disagree with many of the things Fishman says, at least I understand the points he tries to make, and that there's an attempt at cleverness and humor, as perfunctory as it usually is. He's saying something, even if what he says is often stupid.
For me it's because it's so self-congratulatory yet empty.

PC hasn't addressed a real political issue in ages, let alone taken a stance on one. It's just the author patting himself on the back for being so much smarter than everyone else, who are drawn as moronic strawmen who say stuff like "I'm too stupid and emotional to vote right"

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Technowolf posted:

Clay Bennett




Be careful with this, people have gotten probed for saying Trump probably isn't gonna go to prison

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

skeleton warrior posted:

Stating “Trump can’t be worse on Gaza” ignores that he has said that “Israel needs to finish the job”, ignores that during his term he encouraged the worst of Israel’s expansionist ambitions
Eh Trump says a lot of stuff though
https://twitter.com/YousefMunayyer/status/1772288881783628166

skeleton warrior posted:

such as moving our embassy to Jerusalem.
Padme: So Biden reversed that move right? Right?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Skios posted:

A.F. Branco




Good example of how conservatives' deeply held beliefs about the immutability of gender go out the window the second a woman's haircut doesn't conform to traditional standards of femininity.

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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

JamesBont posted:

Kellies Nomination: Most Easily Reinterpreted

Does every loving conservative forget that COVID happened during Trump’s presidency?

The only thing they remember is gas prices hit $1.25, not sure why, must have been Trump's oil-drilling genius

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