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Just finished the series, and I have questions, oh so many questions 1) How did she communicate with them in Chinese in the 1970s to tell them to come and save humanity? That would imply they already knew Chinese and knew which characters she was sending. Wouldn't that imply the Sophons were already on earth? 2) For that matter, how do we know they are indeed coming? 3) Who is Willis and how does he have so much power? What org does he work with within the UK government? Was he lying when he said he wasn't MI5? 4) How do we know the aliens are harmful? They claim that they are coming to take over the planet, but...are they actually? All we know about them is what they tell us 5) Why would they stop scientists from working and then let them start again, like the lady making the nanofibers? I understand that they are 'afraid' that humanity might surpass them in 400 years, but a) Why would they start letting scientists work again, and b) Wouldn't they be able to just take whatever tech we develop and use it themselves as soon as we make it? They after all can spy on us, right? Based on all this, I've come to wonder if they are really a threat to humanity after all. I'm starting to think that instead of being an actual threat, they are posing as a threat to get humanity off its rear end and innovate. Necessity being the mother of invention and all that. They are making themselves look like the big bads so humanity has a common enemy to unite against, we develop technologies to get us off the earth and into the cosmos. I also wonder if they are not already on earth and have been for some time, observing us and seeing that we are not able to save ourselves.
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discoukulele posted:
1) Ok, so no one else in the world caught the messages going back and forth? I mean the scientists in Ohio got the WOW! signal too. If they are transmitting that much I can't imagine no one else would have heard it 2) They _tell_ us they are coming, but maybe they are lying. 3) Ok, fair. 4) The Sophons allegedly can only tell the truth, but A) we don't actually know that, we are taking them at their word, and b) the Sophons are not the aliens, they are AI programmed to communicate back and forth with the alien 'fleet' 5) Why do they need followers at all in that case? To manipulate things? Why bother talking to humanity if they are coming to wipe us out? Do they need earth pristine and not damaged by global warming? [edit for your edit] Why would they worry about us surpassing them, they are going to steal any technology we develop anyways, right? Anything we come up with that is unique or a threat to them we'd just be passing to them the instant we get it. Maybe this is explained more in the books. Which I should read. I do feel that after they got rid of the game segment the 'fun' of the series started to taper off a bit as it transitioned into a standard SF type show. [edit] Another thing I thought of. he first message she gets says 'i'm a pacifist, don't message back or others are gonna come and curbstomp you' and she's all like 'LOL what, c'mon, we need a good curb stomping. So either the Aliens are not a unified species or a hive mind, or they are a hive mind and the message she got was a lie. Either way, the messages the human pawns are getting are not from the aliens themselves, but the 11th dimension computers Cimber fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Mar 24, 2024 |
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Tarnop posted:There's nothing wrong with your line of thinking here on most of these questions. Many of them are unanswered at this point and you should follow your instinct to read the books IMO. Thanks. I hate overthinking a book and then wondering if its a plot hole or a really subtle clue of real intentions. ok, next thing How do we know the aliens tried to kill Saul? Because Wade told us so? Why do we trust him to tell the truth. Cimber fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Mar 24, 2024 |
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ok, next thing. So Mike Evans and his ship gets cut off from the aliens because he reads them Little Red Riding Hood (Red, like Red China and Red Sky or whatever their plan was? heh). The aliens flip out when they realize that 'its a lie' because it isn't true and liars can't be trusted. Are the aliens just that stupid or literal they don't know what metaphor or fiction is? That the story isn't intend to deceive but tell a tale or an aesop? I don't buy that for a moment, because the aliens literally made a fictional game that was metaphor to recruit brilliant minds. They knew before that conversation about that, because otherwise how would they get people to join them if they had to tell the truth.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Just started the first episode. Jesus Christ that first scene was brutal and I was not mentally ready for that. It just looked way too real. If you think that was fun, you'll love this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuKDBPw8wQA
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Boris Galerkin posted:Made it through E2. Guess I'll watch just 1 more before bed. So I was joking before, but there is a scene in episode 5 that's pretty squick. I'm not one who gets freaked out by TV gore, but i had to look away during that part.
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So if Will's brain is being shipped to the San-ti (or at least was supposed to before the fuckup) what good is it going to do? They know everything there is to know about humans already from being able to download wikipedia. They can also download the decoded human genome so they don't need Will's sample to recreate him, they could easily just genetic engineer a human from the human genome project if they wanted a physical body. But more to the point, why would they want a physical human body? What exactly is Will going to give them that they can't get already? It seems like his mission is entirely pointless. The more I shower thought this series, the more it seems to fall apart.
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Shneak posted:This is my genre of sci-fi but I wasn't really feeling it until the end of Episode 2—yeah, I'm hooked now. I got good news for ya 
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TURTLE SLUT posted:Overall I thought episodes 1-5 were pretty great, but 6-8 fell flat to the point where I was bored at times. Absolutely agree. After the events of Episode 5 I think it really started to lose its pacing. If they had ended the 1st series at episode 5 (and padded it with some more details to stretch it out to 7 episodes or so) and then started the 2nd series with the stuff from episode 6 onward it might have flowed a bit better.
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Mar 24, 2024 18:00
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Chalks posted:Loved this series. based on some digging The aliens are not a hive mind but communicate via telepathy or something like that. Because they can sense each other's thoughts the concept of lying is foreign to them....somehow? Because no alien ever thought to think untrue thoughts or something? I dunno.
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Here's the other problem I see with the whole transmisison thing Earth is broadcasting poo poo into space loudly on all sorts of radio frequencies. It would not be all that hard for any civilization to hear us at distance of a few light years if they have the tech to make proton sized supercomputers. er, google the youtube intro to contact, or the hitler decoded scene later in the movie. Cimber fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Mar 24, 2024 |
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Wii Spawn Camper posted:
Yeah, she and a lot of others went to pieces after that.
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confused posted:I've finished episode five and have been mostly enjoying it so far, but am starting to get overwhelmed by toughts of, "Wait a second. This doesn't make any sense." It's starting to feel like they really needed a few more passes on the script. Just as one example, can someone answer the following for me: Throw in the fact that they also killed the pilot guiding the ship through the canal. Whoops. But apparently this is some multi-national org that hasn't been explained but has the agreement of all the countries on earth. Or something. Lets also not forget that they would be basically shutting down the canal for several weeks while they combed through the wreckage, as well as dealing with all the body parts. Cimber fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Mar 25, 2024 |
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Mar 25, 2024 00:49
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Netflix does that, massively hypes a show and then canceles it after 1 or 2 seasons and leaves all the viewers hanging. The OA is a prime example.
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DrHammond posted:
Why? They already know everything there is to know about humanity from scouring the internet, and I'm sure they could download the human genetic code from the human genome project.
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