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Never heard of the books, watching this now. Super interesting premise and very well done, but (ep 5 spoilers) the thing with the ship and nano fibers was really dumb, it looked cool but what was the point? To prevent them from destroying evidence? How’d they know the fibers wouldn’t chop it up? Curious if it made more sense in the book or maybe I missed something? It’s like they saw Ghost Ship and wanted to dial it up to 11. I didn’t mind seeing the High Sparrow get chopped up though
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Tarnop posted:In the book they discuss the optimum spacing on the nanowires and the distance they choose is small enough to kill someone lying down and large enough that even if the storage device is cut in half they could reconstruct the data. It's framed as a necessary risk and they know it has a chance of going wrong Thanks for the explanation, I’m still not buying it but I’m just not gonna let it bother me.
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Tarnop posted:When I was reading the book I remember thinking "oh come on" but then the way it is described is so cool that I gave it a pass. It definitely felt like a kind of forced way to make the nanowire research relevant. I'm not up to that episode in the show so I'm interested to see how it plays out It definitely looked very cool, so I really enjoyed watching it even if I was saying “wtf?!” the whole time, like eyes glued to the tv so I can soak in every detail.
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deported to Canada posted:Yeah and the clean up operation didn't exactly look easy, when what they are looking for is somewhere here *gestures at large pile of steel* They’re also really lucky the ship decided to turn and run aground instead of sinking into the water like it probably should have. Also ships aren’t on a flat solid road like a car, they are continually moving in three dimensions as they bob in the water, so having all the cuts be perfectly straight doesn’t really make sense either. I guess they just kind of forgot about higher dimensions, ironically.
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Mar 22, 2024 17:55
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Question for book readers, how much of the China scenes were changed? Is it pretty much the same or was it very different? It really felt like it was saying “China bad” and there weren’t any scenes in modern China to say something like “things were bad, but now it’s better” or anything like that. I may have missed it though, gonna need to rewatch the last 2 episodes because I also stayed up late binging it.
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Mar 22, 2024 18:02
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Tarnop posted:In the book, all of the scenes that the TV show sets in the UK happen in China Oh!… oh. 
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Mar 22, 2024 19:43
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Updog Scully posted:BOOK TRILOGY SPOILER: they probably want to reveal that they come from Alpha Centauri, the closest star system to our own, to foreshadow the dark forest reveal i.e. "isn't it weird that the aliens just happen to live in the closest star system to our own?" I don’t remember exactly what the dialog was but at one point when discussing distances/speeds they said something that came out to 4 ish light years and there’s only one star system 4 light years away and I thought it was really weird that they didn’t talk about Alpha Centauri. I was falling asleep a lot at this point so I don’t remember exactly what was said but it was something like they’re taking 400 years at 1% light speed, so 4 light years away is pretty obvious. I guess it’s not common knowledge for the general public, but the characters would have known instantly. I knew it and I’m just some idiot. I agree that the pacing was off balance and the episodes 6 and 7 were not as exciting as the rest of the season, though it picked again up in 8. They should have put the wallfacer stuff in 6, maybe make Saul more involved in the decision, and not split up the launch scene like someone else mentioned. Hope it gets a second season, and the producers don’t poo poo the bed like with GoT. Rewatching episode 6 now and just realizing the scene where Jin convinces Wade to go with the Stairway plan over the objections of the other scientists mirrors the situations in the game. Also every time they said Sophon I thought they were saying cell phone. When sword lady said we will destroy them with our cell phones I was like lmao drat got us already Then Jin tells Raj that Auggie is “gutted” about Panama … she’s not the only one.
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Mar 24, 2024 23:34
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I thought it just folded itself back up and returned to the charger or whatever
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Mar 25, 2024 01:48
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Zero VGS posted:I went back and Wade has an earlier throwaway line about how they need the project because even if it fails it will advance several tech trees by 100 years. I agree spending that much time for a Checkov's Brain subplot felt like a letdown anyway, in the show and in us putting up with it. Re: the project failing, it parallels what happens in the games, where they fail each time but still learn something and advance their knowledge.
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Mar 25, 2024 03:52
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I mean it sort of makes sense that they’re all the students of Vera, who is the daughter of the person who contacted the trisolar/san ti, and who was in that position due to being a super scientist. Saul worked with her at the neutrino detector before she killed herself and the project cancelled. They were all super science students even if not all of them became super scientists.
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Mar 25, 2024 04:47
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:Yeah, I'm willing to let that slide in a 1915 West Point "class the stars fell on" kind of way. Though it would have been nice to see them go their different ways, maybe form their own circles of powerful smart folks working the problem. Vera’s death actually brought them back together in the beginning. Weird how much stuff I’m remembering through this conversation, but it’s actually decently explained I guess!
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The most unrealistic part is that there’s no faction denying the aliens exist and no faction trying to gently caress the Eye in the Sky.
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Mar 25, 2024 15:59
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Knowing these show runners, they probably set it in the UK so they could cast the same actors from GoT, who already had the accents.
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Mar 25, 2024 19:03
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I never thought he was a “diversity hire” what the gently caress
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I liked Saul from the start because I also like to smoke weed and drop acid  Lampsacus posted:Who said it was hard sci fi in the first place?? Surely, it, like most sci fi and like most good sci fi, falls apart when you apply certain logics to it. I feel like 3bp is a bit above falling apart with the smallest application of logic because would that mean it has no logic to it? I feel like it's got a bit of logic to it?? And of course it falls apart! It's sci fi! Everything falls apart because it's dramatized fiction. Name a tv show or book that doesn't fall apart when you apply certain real-world logic to it. Sometimes you just have to enjoy the ride It’s soft sci-fi pretending to be hard sci-fi
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Mar 26, 2024 01:53
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GigaPeon posted:Did they explain how Tatiana was able to kill Jack like that? Having read the first book, I figured she was the visual avatar for the Sophons that the sword lady turned out to be, but it seems she's just another true believer. If that's a later book thing to be explain, you can say that. She stabbed him in the neck and then the Sophon erased her from the footage, I don’t think it’s more complicated than that. No idea why Jack didn’t punch her in the face and run. Not sure if there’s a book explanation but that’s how the show portrays it, which doesn’t make sense because there’d be loads of other physical evidence.
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Mar 26, 2024 20:40
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General Dog posted:Surprised I haven't seen more mention of Ghost Ship (2002) in regard to that scene. Whether the scene is from the book or not, it's wildly similar in concept and execution. I’m very glad it wasn’t just me who thought of that, it’s a pretty unique scene
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I just don’t get why the aliens revealed themselves at all, if they had just sent the sophons and canceled particle physics, our science wouldn’t advance and we would never know the fleet was on the way, bing bang boom in 400 years they eradicate us no problem and they’re sipping drinks in the Bahamas littered with human corpses. I actually like how much the show has made me think, even if the plot doesn’t pass muster when you get into it.
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Mar 27, 2024 00:39
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Tarnop posted:In the book (minor book 1 spoilers) Thanks again for the context. Really appreciate the work you’ve been putting into the thread. The conclusion I’m reaching is that I should just read the books.
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Mar 27, 2024 01:38
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Tarnop posted:No problem! I think the books are pretty great, so you should definitely give them a try Lol well the show just leaves me with so many questions that are answered in the books, so I can’t blame you for that. Blame D&D. After living through GoT, I’m not surprised, but i never read those books because they weren’t finished (and still are not). So I’ll probably read these books and then just try to enjoy the spectacle without wondering about all these details.
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Mar 27, 2024 01:52
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Hilario Baldness posted:I just finished binge reading the first book and so far I'm fine with this adaptation. This is a good point re: Netflix because I feel like the show would’ve been better if it was weekly and we had time to stew/discuss/theorize.
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Mar 27, 2024 18:55
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Doltos posted:I binged it all in two days and felt generally okay about doing it. Some mystery is fine but the show was engrossing enough to watch it all at once. The stars for sale is just a gimmick to raise money for the mission so the money goes to her project Edit and to be clear I think Will’s secret love bullshit is the worst of the bunch, it’s very high school
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Mar 27, 2024 21:05
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PostNouveau posted:Them dethawing a chimp in a room full of people was pretty funny. You think he might be disoriented by this process? What do we think his reaction to being extremely disoriented would be? I legit thought the chimp would turn violent before it barfed
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Netflix (and, to a lesser extent, game of thrones) has ruined tv shows for me, i won’t start watching a show unless it has already finished. I thought this show was a mini-series or I’d never have started it. I was happy to learn the books are finished, at least.
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