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I think it's brought up mostly as shorthand, because we don't have an institutionally recognized historical position/framework/outlook that comports to the actual, historical reality of postwar American empire. At a basic level it exposes the contradiction between the domestic ideological conception of the US as the "good guys" taking a principled stand against nazism and fascism and us happily employing any useful nazi we could get our hands on in our efforts to destroy the Soviet Union and establish ourselves as the unquestioned global hegemon. I think, along the lines you've mentioned, a better and more appropriate shorthand would be Gladio/the stay-behind networks which often employed and empowered some of the most depraved nazis, but I think one of the reasons it isn't is because it's just too uncomfortable and really difficult to digest unless you're already on that real destroy amerikkka tip.
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StashAugustine posted:Gladio is also a huge fuckin mess where we don't know a lot for certain and just explaining it makes you sound nuts, while paperclip is entirely agreed-upon public knowledge Yeah that's true. You need to fill in a lot of the blanks and if you don't have a working understanding of class and power you just won't be able to do it and it'll sound like insane conspiracy theory bullshit. But also if you have a working understanding of class and power you won't need to be convinced that the US is bad by Gladio because you'll no longer be a liberal
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