- OrangéJéllo
- Aug 31, 2001
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is it just me, or does operation paperclip get brought up a lot on cspam/the internet?
it seems like the go-to example of america being evil nazi sympathizers, and it's sometimes presented as like a red pill fact that will open normies' eyes to the sins of the US. but:
- the scientists we grabbed during operation paperclip mostly went on to work in the civilian space program, which certainly had its flaws but which is mostly viewed positively by the american public
- the scientists were all nazis but they don't really have any eye-grabbing, headline-worthy crimes. von braun benefited from slave labor and probably turned a blind eye to the horrors of the camps. same story for a lot of operation paperclip guys. that's horrible, but not really special. i'm not an expert, so if there are really heinous guys who got brought over, i'm interested in hearing about them, but i've never heard of anybody like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bolschwing, who organized huge pogroms during ww2 and then worked for the CIA in the 50s
- the soviets grabbed scientists in the exact same way in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Osoaviakhim
honest question: is there truly horrible stuff that i've missed in operation paperclip? i hate nazis but i've never really understood why this event in particular gets so much attention
there are actually a myriad of ways that the soviets treated their captured scientists differently but the biggest is they were kept isolated from society and not allowed to be in leadership positions. They were also returned to germany after their years of work and not allowed to rise into the upper echelons of high society as happened here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Osoaviakhim
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- OrangéJéllo
- Aug 31, 2001
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ive never seen this sourced, only talked about matter-of-factly by leftist twitter accounts but would like to know if its actually a well sourced thing or not
did von brauns factory regularly do public executions of their least productive slave laborers?
https://dora.uah.edu/slavelabor.html
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