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Edward Mass posted:I guess the question should be asked, then: if you don't watch Impact, what would get you to start? A weekly live show down the street edit: one that’s not nxt MancXVI fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Feb 27, 2024 |
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What TNA traditionally did well, there are a lot of indie promotions doing that without as much bullshit. TNA had some incredibly good wrestlers in most of their eras, TNA would usually put a bigger importance on Women's Wrestling during their peaks and they'd get really over, and TNA would jump at the opportunity to have international stars come to their program and just have real good matches. They also weren't afraid to shy away from having totally different wrestling styles highlighted on their program, like tag-team wrestling, hardcore wrestling, Lucha-libre, and Puro. But at every point in their existence where they're actually starting to get their poo poo together, there's always been a change in management that decides they need to be more like WWE. The thing is, GCW for a while were doing this but better, DPW is doing this but better, PWG has always done this but better, and CHIKARA & SHIMMER for a time was doing this but better, TNA might do it first but there's always an indy company doing it better. They're constantly in a cycle where they're the cutting-edge and then gently caress everything up again. We've looped back around to the Hogan era takeover, except now they've decided their goal is 2023 NXT.
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Going live weekly sounds like a recipe for disaster especially when you have the lack of market share that TNA has. Taping out of the one location? Yeah that's more than reasonable for a company in their position but going live weekly is never going to work.
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It's definitely working great for Beyond Wrestling and Wrestling Open, which I know we all have loved to watch every week for the last two years
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Edward Mass posted:I guess the question should be asked, then: if you don't watch Impact, what would get you to start? Turning it into a shoot style promotion.
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Tampa Bae posted:But at every point in their existence where they're actually starting to get their poo poo together, there's always been a change in management that decides they need to be more like WWE. That's literally it right there. When I started watching old early years, they literally started having more cohesion to the shows around 20 weeks-ish in, it was getting enjoyable at times and then Vince Russo made his first appearance and it's been a giant slog to get through with S.E.X angle, etc 
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Tampa Bae posted:The thing is, GCW for a while were doing this but better, DPW is doing this but better, PWG has always done this but better, and CHIKARA & SHIMMER for a time was doing this but better, TNA might do it first but there's always an indy company doing it better. They're constantly in a cycle where they're the cutting-edge and then gently caress everything up again.
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Last real chance for TNA was likely when they were in talks with Heyman and they balked at his demands. IIRC he was going to focus the promotion on Bryan Danielson and bring the at the time indy scene to the forefront. All they can be is a relatively minor wrestling promotion with a handful of diehard fans, not unlike a lot of indies and regionals. You aren't going to grow an audience on AXS doing what everyone else does, and better. You definitely aren't gonna do it with live TV. I'd rather spend that money on talent but that's just me.
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Warthur posted:DPW? That's a new one on me, but are they the new hotness? They have a podcast where they review random bullshit in wrestling and don't manage to be offensive too, so that's a big up
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Not where I expected Alex Hammerstone to go https://twitter.com/WrestlingCovers/status/1763382023698141445?s=20
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they're back to being TNA so they needed a new Matt Morgan
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Tampa Bae posted:They're based out of the Carolinas, and funded by the guys who have been doing NewLegacyInc for the last decade, more or less. They've always got top of the indies type wrestlers on their show and try and bring in every type of wrestler they can. They were actually one of the first promotions that believed in Japanese Death Match Legend Luther, and they're always booking top indie and international stars like Miyu and Rina Yamashita, Calvin Tankman, Bryan Keith, et all. They don't quite have the momentum of PWG shows but they should "gently caress the WWE-" "OH HELL YEAH!"
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forkboy84 posted:Turning it into a shoot style promotion. this would win me over.
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Glass Punkbull 141 posted:"gently caress the WWE-" Every time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogg3trO6CBc
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forkboy84 posted:Turning it into a shoot style promotion.
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Chris James 2 posted:Dave says Hard To Kill did great, early numbers are around 8000 buys. Biggest number they've done since Kenny Omega/Rich Swann, at least the third-biggest (final count could raise it to 2nd-biggest) since the Spike TV days. And this is with it competing against an NFL playoff game (Chiefs/Dolphins) and the first hour of Okada and Ospreay's final New Japan PPV Final numbers were 19,700 TV PPV buys (more than double Bound for Glory 2023, which was already considered a huge success), easily eclipses Kenny/Swann, and counting streaming buys did around 60,000. Same as the record, Joe/Kurt at Genesis 2006
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Chris James 2 posted:Not where I expected Alex Hammerstone to go I'd expected he'd go to the NWA, but lol.
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edogawa rando posted:I'd expected he'd go to the NWA, but lol. NWA won't offer contracts to older wrestlers they only want to sign really young ones they can underpay.
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Chris James 2 posted:Final numbers were 19,700 TV PPV buys (more than double Bound for Glory 2023, which was already considered a huge success), easily eclipses Kenny/Swann, and counting streaming buys did around 60,000. Same as the record, Joe/Kurt at Genesis 2006 Looking back it really is amazing how much they screwed the pooch on the original TNA. I lived through it and know it did not deserve fond memories overall, but the fact that a nostalgic rebrand brought them back to their highest high is really stunning to me.
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Chris James 2 posted:Final numbers were 19,700 TV PPV buys (more than double Bound for Glory 2023, which was already considered a huge success), easily eclipses Kenny/Swann, and counting streaming buys did around 60,000. Same as the record, Joe/Kurt at Genesis 2006  for a promotion with WAY less market share than 2006, that’s pretty outstanding.
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UnleashedDad posted:Looking back it really is amazing how much they screwed the pooch on the original TNA. I lived through it and know it did not deserve fond memories overall, but the fact that a nostalgic rebrand brought them back to their highest high is really stunning to me. Dixie Carter burning the Spike relationship by secretly keeping Russo involved despite promising them he wasn't has to be one of the greatest examples of a wrestling company shooting itself in the foot for no reason
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forkboy84 posted:Dixie Carter burning the Spike relationship by secretly keeping Russo involved despite promising them he wasn't has to be one of the greatest examples of a wrestling company shooting itself in the foot for no reason And also that it was exposed because Russo himself emailed Mike Johnson of pwinsider instead of Mike tenay with the script or a rundown for a show and then emails Johnson with "bro, can you not report this" 
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Mike Jones not a bro *shakes head solemnly*
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Suplex Liberace posted:Mike Jones who?
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Sacrifice is tomorrow The Rascalz (Trey Miguel and Zachary Wentz) vs Speedball Mountain (Mike Bailey and Trent Seven) in a preshow match Josh Alexander vs Alex Hammerstone Time Machine (Chris Sabin, KUSHIDA and Alex Shelley) vs Mustafa Ali and Grizzled Young Vets (Zack Gibson and James Drake) PCO vs Kon in a no-DQ match MK Ultra (Masha Slamovich and Killer Kelly) defend the Knockouts tag titles against Dani Luna and Jody Threat Jordynne Grace defends the Knockouts title in a triple threat against Tasha Steelz and Xia Brookside Bullet Club (Ace Austin and Chris Bey) defend the tag titles against the System (Eddie Edwards and Brian Myers) Nic Nemeth defends the New Japan Global title against Steve Maclin Moose defends the world title against Eric Young Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Mar 8, 2024 |
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Alex Shelly is probably turning heel on KUSHISA, and I don’t know how to feel about this.
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Chris James 2 posted:Sackerfice is tomorrow
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Do you think TNA picks up Kevin Kelly now that he’s been fired from AEW? Maybe NWA is a more likely place for him to pop up.
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Ganso Bomb posted:Do you think TNA picks up Kevin Kelly now that he’s been fired from AEW? Maybe NWA is a more likely place for him to pop up. TNA doesn’t need Kevin Kelly - Tom Hannifan is the best PBP guy they’ve had since Mike Tenay (if not better), and I doubt TNA would spend any money for someone who just does Xplosion.
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UnleashedDad posted:Looking back it really is amazing how much they screwed the pooch on the original TNA. I lived through it and know it did not deserve fond memories overall, but the fact that a nostalgic rebrand brought them back to their highest high is really stunning to me. The history of TNA from inception to even now is a company being handed opportunity after opportunity and squandering it every single time so they could rehash some 90's bullshit.
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Edward Mass posted:TNA doesn’t need Kevin Kelly - Tom Hannifan is the best PBP guy they’ve had since Mike Tenay (if not better), and I doubt TNA would spend any money for someone who just does Xplosion. Is he the one that sounds like Fozzie Bear?
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Ganso Bomb posted:Do you think TNA picks up Kevin Kelly now that he’s been fired from AEW? Maybe NWA is a more likely place for him to pop up. No, he's going to do a grifter podcast and maybe try to get Big Dick Johnson's old job at TPUSA.
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MancXVI posted:Is he the one that sounds like Fozzie Bear? He's the former Tom Phillips of WWE, I don't know anything about Fozzie Bear.
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Edward Mass posted:I don't know anything about Fozzie Bear.   "Our hero! Do ho ho!"
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MassRafTer posted:No, he's going to do a grifter podcast and maybe try to get Big Dick Johnson's old job at TPUSA. That was also high on my list of guesses (well, the first half at least)
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MassRafTer posted:No, he's going to do a grifter podcast and maybe try to get Big Dick Johnson's old job at TPUSA. i didn't even know they broke up, i liked Lump
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Sacrifice feed just dead in app. Oh TNA.  Edit: oh it's back yay Miching Mallecho fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Mar 9, 2024 |
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Sacrifice aftermath: The System hold the gold; Moose retained the world title (thanks to interference from Frankie Kazarian), and Eddie Edwards and Brian Myers won the tag titles Eric Young's working per-appearance, is he going back to HHH soon/after this weekend's tapings? Dani Luna and Jody Threat won the Knockouts tag titles. Masha Slamovich shoved away Killer Kelly after Alex Hammerstone beat Josh Alexander in his first match since signing with the company Chris Sabin accidentally cost his team the match, but does everyone think it was an accident?
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I came in late to the show and missed this lol https://twitter.com/garrettkidney/status/1766544280275824855
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