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Das Boo posted:I don't quite understand this. It says it's a anti-bullying book project by Gobelins students, so is this condoned by the school or just an outside alumni project?
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mystes posted:I think the point is that "a student project by students at gobelins used ai" is different from what was implied by "the most famous french art school gobelins is using AI for their site and advertising" regardless of whether you feel that they should be allowed to use ai for student projects? Right, I'm just not entirely clear on how much involvement the school actually has here. Whether this is a class project with instructor oversight vs. something students initiated on their own and the school is providing publicity have hugely different culpability levels.
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Larryb posted:On another note, was Kung Fu Panda 4 any good? I don’t recall people talking about it much here It feels more like a kid's movie than the others do imo, super fast paced and a lot more focus on gags. The parts that are supposed to be emotional don't really land because there was barely any meaningful development between characters. No stand-out scenes either, like how even KFP3 had that visually fun final fight that was memorable despite the overall movie just being okay at best. It's a shame the villain is such a wet fart of a character, because I like her design and concept. She just has zero presence and barely feels like a threat. Tai-Lung had his incredible prison break sequence and was built up as an impending danger throughout the film, Shen committed loving genocide, even Kai (who was considered the weakest villain until now) was shown defeating Oogway at the start of his movie. What does The Chameleon do? She pushes a guy down some stairs. That's it. It doesn't even have any gravity because it's played for laughs and the guy just comically bounces down the stairs and is otherwise fine. Have her throw a guy out a window at least, drat!! Technically she has the scene at the start where she's disguised as Tai-Lung and causes panic, but even then it's hardly memorable. And then there's the whole contrived thing about her being turned away from kung fu because she was "too small" (in a world where Mantis exists). They were going for some sort of parallel I guess - Po was initially told he couldn't do kung fu because he was "too big and fat" after all - but like every other concept in this movie, it was half-baked and barely explored. Speaking of Tai-Lung's inclusion, it's so so clear that he and the other past villains are only in it for nostalgia bait and don't serve any actual purpose other than for the audience to point and go "hey, I remember that guy!". Honestly it's amazing he even got any lines at all instead of just being a cameo appearance like Shen and Kai. The final fight was pretty underwhelming too, especially because it turns out Po could have just two-shot her with the staff the whole time. She goes down so easily! They could have just not had her give Po the staff back after she was done with it; at least then you could add some vague stakes with them having to get it back so they can beat her. But then I guess there's the whole "it only works if you give it willingly" thing or whatever that they would have had to work out, and why do that when you could instead be cramming in more references to the previous movies Also the bit at the end where Tai-Lung bows to Po was so out of character and not at all earned. All Po did was get himself trapped, spout something about the fox being the only one who could beat The Chameleon, later come in and beat The Chameleon with the staff he'd been holding the entire time, and then reveal he could have gotten un-trapped whenever he wanted, something something fox girl just had to ~believe in herself~. Tai-Lung has no idea who the gently caress this fox girl is, why would he care? A more entertaining finale would have been Po turning around after beating The Chameleon and seeing all his previous foes approaching him cracking their knuckles or whatever, and then they have to fight them all and send them back to the spirit realm one by one or something. I don't know, at least it'd be vaguely memorable, maybe I don't think it's a terrible movie, it was enjoyable enough, but it's just full of weird decisions and half-baked ideas. Po has to choose a successor, for reasons. What reasons? He just does, okay. He just has to do it. I know they barely ever do anything with the Furious Five, but their total absence from the movie outside of a passing reference and an end credits scene just makes the whole thing not really feel like a Kung Fu Panda movie. I liked the fox character and thought her design was cute, but she also looked kind of out of place and like she'd hopped in from, idk, Zootopia. Mostly it just made me want to re-watch the first one again, which I did the next day after not having watched it in a good while. Still holds up! Tai-Lung's escape is an amazing watch and the finale is still fantastic. Might re-watch the second one next.
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Butt Detective posted:Po has to choose a successor, for reasons. What reasons? He just does, okay. He just has to do it. Every third Dreamworks movie must bear the sins of Shrek 3.
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TwoPair posted:If you would have told me back when the first KFP movie came out that it would spawn 3 sequels + a TV show I would've laughed in your face. Kinda wild how it's gone this long. Three shows actually (Legends of Awesomeness, Paws of Destiny, and The Dragon Knight), plus a holiday special that takes place after the first movie
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there's a Q&A with the co-director of Kung-Fu Panda 4 that basically explains that the entire production was a shitshow: https://www.reddit.com/r/kungfupanda/comments/1bbbnod/got_to_talk_to_the_codirector_of_kfp_4_and/ and the bullet points are here for people who don't want to go to Reddit
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Oh god, a "Comedy Guy" should never be a thing. Scripts don't need punching up. Literally "I just fell on my bottom into some butterscotch! Whackity Smackity Doo!"
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The thing about Dreamworks scuttling a large portion of its TV division sucks because they’ve put out a fair share of quality animated content (Kipo and the She-Ra reboot for example, the HTTYD series was also decent in parts)
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Am I biased because I've had to watch a lot of it or is Cocomelon really quite bad even by the standards of shows for very small children?
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Rand Brittain posted:Am I biased because I've had to watch a lot of it or is Cocomelon really quite bad even by the standards of shows for very small children? It’s not just you, Cocomelon is loving awful. It’s a crime against animation and good taste. I’m glad my niece and nephew have aged out of it and into Bluey.
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Rand Brittain posted:Am I biased because I've had to watch a lot of it or is Cocomelon really quite bad even by the standards of shows for very small children?
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Cocomelon seems to be a show designed entirely for infants with no regard for anyone else in the vicinity
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Yea KFP 4 just feels lifeless. They couldn’t even be assed to bring in the furious 5. It feels so fuckin cheap. Even though 3 was a little weaker it still had some good emotional stuff and some memorable scenes. Just bleck.
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Robindaybird posted:Cocomelon seems to be a show designed entirely for infants with no regard for anyone else in the vicinity
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Apparently an R rated adaption of TMNT: The Last Ronin is in the works https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-last-ronin-movie-1235871493/
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Larryb posted:Apparently an R rated adaption of TMNT: The Last Ronin is in the works Live action, unfortunately
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Macaluso posted:Live action, unfortunately Eh, the first live action Turtles movie wasn’t terrible. It all depends on the production value and who’s attached to the project (I agree this probably would have worked better as an animated film though)
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It seems pretty weird to make an r rated live action tmnt movie right after mutant mayhem
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mystes posted:It seems pretty weird to make an r rated live action tmnt movie right after mutant mayhem I wonder if that's the reason it's live action. To differentiate it further from the animated one.
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3 CG skateboarding mutants and then the 4th one is just a small regular turtle chilling in a box because Donatello knew better than to eat weird glowing goop. Also Michaelangelo rides a razor scooter just to be different. Teenage Mutant Ninja Shitposts.
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In a nod to realism re: rat physiology, Splinter is actually just a gigantic sentient mobile tumour that looks like a rat, with the actual dead irradiated rat attached to the small of his back.
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Macaluso posted:Live action is a toxic plague that we have let run rampant for far too long I don't know what you're talking about, I can't wait for whatever James Marsden's subplot in Sonic 3 will be 
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LifeLynx posted:About Kung Fu Panda - has there been a #4 in an animated movie series that wasn't a disaster? That's straight-to-VHS territory in my eyes. Shrek reversed it with 3 being generally panned but fan consensus being that 4 was better.
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LifeLynx posted:About Kung Fu Panda - has there been a #4 in an animated movie series that wasn't a disaster? That's straight-to-VHS territory in my eyes. People liked toy story 4 but i thought that poo poo stunk like rancid rear end
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TwoPair posted:I don't know what you're talking about, I can't wait for whatever James Marsden's subplot in Sonic 3 will be I'd be surprised if they don't pull an Ugly Sonic on that guy and switch in a double with CGI, given the press he's getting recently with regards to Brian Peck. Unless that's 
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TwoPair posted:I don't know what you're talking about, I can't wait for whatever James Marsden's subplot in Sonic 3 will be Sonic gets a pass because I love Sonic
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I just got done watching KFP4 and it's noticeably weaker than the other three. There's an argument to be made that the overhype vs actual substance WRT the Chameleon and her abilities, especially in her introduction scene, is deliberate given the theme of manipulation and posturing vs concrete skill, but it still wasn't executed in an engaging way. Compare the Chameleon's introduction scene with say, this - she still could've been so much more dangerous. I also dislike that the first female villain of the series isn't allowed to be physically on par with the male ones, with an incredibly flimsy justification at that. But, since they went that direction, her choosing to take the 'easier' way out and use her powers to shortcut past actual kung fu training and discipline without truly learning the lessons about it and about herself would be a stronger story - I'm thinking specifically of the scene where she rushes opening the spirit realm. It reminded me of the scene with Oogway's candles from the first and I was fully expecting her ditching the ritual aspect of waiting for the full moon to have some kind of consequence later on, but no. I almost wonder if that actually was the intent originally and her simply being rejected (with the possibility that she's bullshitting that too) was a last-minute replacement. It feels so frustratingly close to the point, but from entirely the wrong starting point. Also found it odd she never found Oogway in there. Zhen is completely charmless until the reveal and even then her bond with Po is still kinda weak - she's far too smug for far too long, not enough moments of relaxing her guard around Po for me to buy that she started to genuinely like him or felt bad about turning on him. Again, could be deliberate given it's a fake persona, but the execution was still poor to me. They also could've gone way harder with the parallels between Zhen, Han and the Chameleon with Po, his dads and Shifu. I liked Awkwafina's performance as Sisu in Raya so I don't dislike it here, but she was noticeably much stronger in the second half than the first to me. Sisu was a very sincere, earnest character and that's definitely one of Awkwafina's strengths, but sincerity is something this movie seems kind of scared of and she suffers the most from it as a result. Tai Lung being relegated to the peanut gallery for most of his scenes and not having anything to do with Shifu sucks (I feel like them having not the chance to speak again is key to his continuing failure to find inner peace, even if that's mostly used for gags), but I don't inherently hate the concept of Tai Lung accepting Po's strength without needing yet another beatdown. He's been beaten by Po himself directly, and beaten again by proxy with the stolen chi through Kai. He's had enough time to get over it. I almost feel like it'd have been stronger if he didn't speak until his shock endorsement of Po right at the end, paralleling his first appearance where he didn't speak until after he escaped from the prison. Pyrotoad fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Marsden was legit good, which shocked me. Sonic has better humans than Detective Pikachu overall. Heck, I didn't even mind the wedding sequence in 2, even though it was obvious padding. I wanna see his sister in law giving romantic advice to Amy in 3. And still hating Sonic but liking Tails. It helped that the wedding bit was genuinely funny, like when the characters are fawning over how cute Tail's gadgets are while going through his stuff, and the bride on the warpath kamikazeing the gazebo with a golf cart.
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both times when i've been the only one awake on a saturday morning and i've reluctantly gone "well, i guess i'll watch this sonic movie" it has been exactly the right time and mindset to be charmed by the fuckin' things. when i inevitably do the same with 3 i'll need to remember to pour a big bowl of cinnamon toast crunch first.
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The wedding bit didn't work for me at all, I don't find that particular character all that funny and I found myself checking my phone for the time when that was happening.
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Nikumatic posted:both times when i've been the only one awake on a saturday morning and i've reluctantly gone "well, i guess i'll watch this sonic movie" it has been exactly the right time and mindset to be charmed by the fuckin' things. when i inevitably do the same with 3 i'll need to remember to pour a big bowl of cinnamon toast crunch first. Robonik and Stone have the best bromance.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Marsden was legit good, which shocked me. Sonic has better humans than Detective Pikachu overall. Heck, I didn't even mind the wedding sequence in 2, even though it was obvious padding. I wanna see his sister in law giving romantic advice to Amy in 3. And still hating Sonic but liking Tails. Assuming Amy’s even in the movie, so far the only new Sonic characters that have been confirmed are Shadow and Maria (and by association Gerald) Plus if you bring in Metal Sonic and focus on the time travel aspect of CD Amy feels more like she could be the premise of a whole seperate movie Larryb fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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