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Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Kermit The Grog posted:

Also, side note question: they showed constellations for all the mainline Disney animated movies over the credits and I swear they skipped over the Rescuers movies, did I just miss them? They’re my favorites

They probably did, Rescuers, Great Mouse Detective and Oliver & Company tend to get overlooked a lot.

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Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

When the topic is Disney, it should be pretty clear that it's not just about reaching the kids of today- the point is Disney totally squandered the reach it had in the 80s and 90s when there was far fewer competition for children's eyeballs, and entire generations grew up knowing Mickey only as a mascot with less personality than Chuck E Cheese, or exclusively in boring edutainment for babies they left behind as soon as possible to watch Transformers, Ninja Turtles, and Pokemon. (where as formulaic and often juvenile as they can be, they at least aren't boring.)

I do wonder if they were stinging from their attempt to update Minnie in the 80s and shied away from trying it with Mickey.


Totally Minnie was roundly mocked for an obvious attempt at 'how you do, fellow kids?' (though funnily, she's about the only incarnation who isn't completely defined by her relationship with Mickey)
EDIT: thinking about it, Minnie was probably a dry run to see if they can update Mickey & Co, and cancelled it on seeing how Totally Minnie went over like a lead balloon.

Robindaybird fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jan 19, 2024

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Mass Cancellation = 15 annoyed moms. Christian Fascists always overestimate their influence - or they're stupid fucks who think buying starbucks coffee or Yeti coolers and destroying them counts as a boycott.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

what's interesting was Toni Basil was in her 40s when she did the song and video - including yes all the cheerleading routines.

I loving hate the song though.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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I've been seeing ads for Migration and apparently it came out last year and I heard nothing about it until now.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Papercut posted:

All 3 are really good

didn't 2 have the utterly aisine 'no family is complete without a mom' message?

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Cats Don't Dance was an absolutely solid movie that got hosed over by the studios.


Baby Doll was honestly one of the most pitiable of Batman's Rogue gallery given her entire situation, and I really didn't like how they handle her in "Love is a Croc" as well as her overall redesign.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Yeah, New Adventures is definitely more consistent, in the old series, you can tell what episodes they thought was important because they got shipped out to the GOOD studios

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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If there was any hope the ATLA live action would be even half as decent as the OP live-action series, it sure is gone.

Robindaybird fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Feb 4, 2024

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Also kind of late to be chasing the GoT hype - given the lovely final season nuked it out of pop cultural relevance.

I'm also someone who didn't care for the OP anime or manga but enjoyed the live action adaptation.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Also loving chasing after the GoT hype in 2024.

The show that imploded so badly in the last season that it took itself out of pop-culture relevance, and highlighted how much the directors were nothing but lucky failsons

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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I feel like the difference is TV Shows have build-in "Breaks" - yes, you can pause any time during a movie at home, but lot of movies don't really have a comfortable spot to put things on hold, but on a show, the Credits/ED starts, that is a perfectly fine place to stop. It's kind of a weird bit of psychology.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Coyote Vs. Acme likely to be deleted forever

WB has rejected every offer and refused to let Netflix, Amazon, and Paramount give counter-offers. It's clear they want this to die.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Not to mention this kind of screwball antics is making directors and production teams reconsider doing any work for WB, because if they're doing this to one of their flagship IPs - what's to stop them from loving over other projects?

Robindaybird fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Feb 9, 2024

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Didn't someone had to resort to piracy to get a copy of the show that he was the showrunner of?

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Jokes aside, that movie's whole production is a dumpster fire from a production standpoint as the directors literally only used the name as an excuse to make their 'cyberpunk with dinosaurs' idea and Nintendo had to constant push to make it remotely recognisable as a Mario movie.

Some other cases don't help, yeah. Captain N also comes to mind.

iirc, Bob Hoskins admits to basically being plastered the entire time for the movie.

But yeah, you can't blame Nintendo after seeing Captain N, the Zelda cartoon, the CD-i games and the movie - kinda of like the urban legend of Miyazaki sending Disney a sword with the words "no cuts" emblazoned on it when Princess Mononoke was being dubbed given how badly Nausicaa was butchered into "Warriors of the Wind"

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Honestly the most frustrating thing is the anti-camps in their misguided 'we gotta protect people from problematic elements' are playing right into the hands of the same kind of fundie-rear end playbook that want to label two men holding hands or two girls kissing as "pornographic" or the weird paternalism that side of the discourse has.

Petite women and short men are "child-coded" and thus should be seen as children, someone that's unable to speak but otherwise can communicate their wants and needs is incapable of consent. It's one thing if they only have pants-on heads stupid opinions about fictional characters, but many of them blur the lines. As unfortunately toxic fandoms are toxic because they DON'T put that separation between fiction and reality.

But really, I'd be suspicious of some coomer that's bright red in Shinigamieyes talking about fandom drama, they always have some nasty chuddy reason behind it.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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and the Zoot Suit Riots (which isn't just a Cherry Poppin' Daddies song) was over a cut of suit - and racism, because almost every riot in the US has some form of racism at the root of it. Fandom can be cool and many pros started in fandom, but it's important to have the ability to recognize when things are nuts and step back.

Social media unfortunately makes it very easy to rile people up and get into a mob mentality.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

It legitimately is clearly heading towards a conclusion at this point, it's definitely in the endgame.

so that'll be another 20 years for the anime.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Sorcerer's Apprentice is so well-timed that if you hear Dukas' composition in isolation and close your eyes, you can pretty much perfectly recreate the entire sequence in your head.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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The_Doctor posted:

No one left at twitter can write? That took me a couple of tries to parse what it was saying. Also, fuckin lol, no I don’t want to watch anything over it.

It kind of scans like a first pass translation.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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the remake has two major strikes:

It focuses on the humans

and it's Tim Burton being Tim Burton

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Moonbeam City really was a poor man's Archer that seem to have expected the Vaporwave aesthetics and Synth-pop to carry the show. and the mayor's sexual exploitation of Pizzaz is treated as a comedy bit

It might have improved if given another season, but there's kind of a reason why it ended up getting memory-holed.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Given Zaslav had canned Batgirl and seem in general not keen on batman and thinks Animation is non profitable, I suspect the answer to 'why resistance' is because it's a stupid fucker letting his biases overrule everything.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Zaslav made it clear he thought cartoons are overpriced, he's also a sexist gently caress who thinks women can't follow scripted shows and prefers cozy reality tv (dude must've never heard of Soap Operas)

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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and in Brazil, lot of Jose Caricao's comics (that weren't Mickey or Donald comics with the parrot painted over them) depicts Jose as a social climber and hustler

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

I'm pretty sure they're both based on a Brazilian parrot.

They could probably be considered one of Disney's earliest clear examples of token nonwhite (sorta) characters, but they did it so drat well. A couple of cheerful party animals are pretty much perfect for playing off hard-luck Donald.

helps both Panchito and Jose were voiced by actors of their actual ethnic/regional background (Jose even shares the same name as his - though his VA went by the nickname Ze) - which was about unheard of in Hollywood then and studios still struggle to do NOW, and while they definitely embodied stereotypes, they were stereotypes that people are proud of.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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so like most of Illumination's output?

Also someone trying to watch the ATLA live action had noticed that it's essentially shot in such a way as to make it prime to upload on tiktok without losing any context

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Except for Penguins of Madagascar - most of the CGI tv shows from dreamworks are honestly not worth it, the downgrade is huge and the writing doesn't compensate

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Even if Jared Leto was good, he's such a loving piece of poo poo that he's physically repellent to me.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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I think it's often because they're cutting trailers before the film is actually finished (thus why you often have scenes in trailers that don't appear in the films themselves)

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Larryb posted:

There's a handful of instances where he talked as I recall but it wasn't a common occurrence

I think he mostly talks when he's paired up against Bugs Bunny and the one where he directly addresses some kids asking questions about why he keeps chasing the roadrunner, but yes he's always given a very posh voice.

(the ones with the sheepdog don't count as that's technically Ralph the wolf, not Wild E. Coyote despite sharing the same model)

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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I never heard of the series, but I'm sold on the trailer.

And that's a REALLY good use of "What a Wonderful World"

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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That is a sickass design, but jesus christ I am Tired of Joker. Guys, Batman has other villains, use them.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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It's honestly a very strong category this year, with Elemental being the weakest entry.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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yeah, seen it in Wal-Mart too, and I expect those to be hitting the discount aisle pretty soon. Wish flopped, but so much of what makes Disney money is merchandise, and that stuff is just not moving.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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It seems like most of the big Disney umbrella films last year have underperformed.

I wonder if we're going to see some executive house cleaning.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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given Zaslav is a prominent trump supporter, and Kaling said some pretty loving awful poo poo herself...

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Whoever wrote the lyrics has a tin ear, lot of weird rhymes, bizarre word choices, redundancy, and doesn't quite flow with the melody.

Asha is also an extremely bland protagonist

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Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

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Lord Hydronium posted:


The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad
The last and probably best of these mashes up short adaptations of two classic stories with a thinnest of framing devices as Basil Rathbone and Bing Crosby disagree on the greatest characters of literature. Sure, fine. I had actually never read The Wind in Willows before a week ago, so I get to have that fresh in my mind as I see how they adapted it. Apparently Disney originally wanted to do a full length feature, but it never came together and they ended up with this short version that's essentially a remix of the Toad chapters, with little assorted bits pulled from all of them. So there's none of the beautiful meditations on nature and the joys of home, just Toad getting into wild adventures. But it's fun nonetheless. The adaptations of the characters are a bit odd; Rat has pretty much nothing in common with his book counterpart and Badger (who's now Scottish and named "Angus MacBadger") isn't much closer, but Mole is pretty close and Toad, most importantly, is spot on, if somewhat less conceited than his book version. I liked this one. The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, meanwhile, is pretty much a one to one adaptation, given the shortness of its source material. There's some musical numbers and slapstick bits that I'm not sure add a lot (although the Headless Horseman song is great), but the final chase with the Horseman is excellent, he's genuinely spooky, and it leaves in the ambiguity of Ichabod's fate in the ending (although it does cut out the all-but-stated implication from the story that Brom was the Horseman). Good stuff, and I'm glad this era at least ends on a high note.

I recall due to the Hayes Code, they had to change Toad willfully stealing the car to being duped because of the 'criminals can't have a happy ending' rule - doesn't explain why Rat ended up as an uptight priss when you already have Badger as the strict one. The song is extremely catchy.

Sleepy Hollow is actually probably one of the most faithful adaptations given most versions makes Crane less of an unscrupulous gold-digger and mooch to make him more sympathetic.

Robindaybird fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Mar 25, 2024

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